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(News Target)   Researchers claim 84% of sunscreen products are harmful to your health. Here comes the science   (newstarget.com) divider line 38
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2007-07-19 02:56:22 PM  
Sunblock 5000 (new window)
 
2007-07-19 03:05:02 PM  
hmmm...NO-AD doesn't have such a good rating...
 
2007-07-19 03:20:57 PM  
Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.
 
2007-07-19 03:45:25 PM  
lewis black FTW!
 
2007-07-19 03:58:13 PM  
Kevin Trudeau?
 
2007-07-19 04:00:19 PM  
I've found 100% are harmful if you take them internally.
 
2007-07-19 04:04:58 PM  
That article was all over the place. Kept going and going. Stream of consciousness. Important parts? Beginning, I thought. Hmmm. Keep reading? Nah, post comment.
 
2007-07-19 04:35:30 PM  
Vitamin D

You need it.

You get it from the sun.
 
2007-07-19 05:02:14 PM  
Everything is harmful to your health. I mean, if you had enough suntan lotion, you could drown in it.
 
2007-07-19 06:13:10 PM  
The only thing we have is sunblock, and I don't trust that sh*t at all.......I use a fine American product, Crisco. It costs a buck ninety five. You can share it with everyone, and you never get burnt with Crisco. Cause when ya start to sizzle, you move your *ss.

www.uncoolkids.com

/Lewis Black was right!!!
 
2007-07-19 06:30:08 PM  
We've also hammered at the sick conspiracy between the cancer industry and the sunscreen industry to keep people diseased so that both industries make more money. As NewsTarget readers have known for a long time, sunscreen products are a hoax, and they actually cause cancer instead of preventing it.

Someone should create a Firefox addon that simply searches for the word "conspiracy" on a page, and gives you an "Entering Batshiat Crazy Zone" warning or something.
 
2007-07-19 06:43:07 PM  
belgiantwatwaffle, Crosshair

It could be Zebra Cum and you don't know...

...you laugh, but you don't know!

=Smidge=
/First thing I thought of too
 
2007-07-19 06:47:52 PM  
 
2007-07-19 06:48:08 PM  
It's not science, it's Fark.com
 
2007-07-19 06:48:19 PM  
See, this is why I stay inside and enjoy the safe, comforting glow of the sputtering fluorescent lights.

/blinks spasmodically
 
2007-07-19 06:58:21 PM  
The lead-basd sunblock I've been using for years is harmful? Shut your mouth!
 
2007-07-19 07:01:05 PM  
Hmmm... burn cherry red in 20 minutes, or slather on possible cancer-causing chemicals? Tough choice, but I'll take the sunscreen. Largely because I only engage in activities that call for the stuff about three times a year, but if I burn those three times a year, my cancer risk *really* goes through the roof.

If you live on the beach, it's just about a given you're gonna end up with some form of flesh rot... solar or chemical... hell, both.
 
2007-07-19 07:02:39 PM  
The original "science" is from Environmental Working Group, who are pretty well-known for being, well, loonies who make things up as they go along.
 
2007-07-19 07:05:45 PM  
(Vitamin D) - You need it.

but you can get it in other ways.
i don't leave the house w/out sunscreen on anymore (raised in FL, live now in houston, pasty red-head that used to surf all day- i'm screwed). i had a squalmous badness removed 10 yrs ago. i now use suncreen every day and it has helped calmed down my skin...

i got a wierd vibe from the linked site and the referenced article. kevin trudeau-wierd if you know what i mean (are these accredited testing institutions?)
but as i just found out that eating microwave popcorn was hugely toxic only ~1 month ago, i wouldn't be all that surprised if i also need to change the daily slathering into a sombrero....
cheers
 
2007-07-19 07:06:22 PM  
the way TFA's author uses the bold tag suggests he may be a little bit crazy!!!

/just sayin'
 
2007-07-19 07:30:02 PM  
The stupid. It makes my head hurt.
 
2007-07-19 07:36:04 PM  
Luckily I don't burn. My family seems to turn a dark color very easily. I've only put sunblock on a few times in my life, even though I've spent extended time in the Dominican Republic, on the ocean, in FL, GA (where it feels hotter than the previous places), etc.
But I do feel bad for those that lobster up and are miserable for a few days.
 
2007-07-19 07:38:59 PM  
Why hasn't anybody bludgeoned Kevin Trudeau to death yet? Not only is he full of shiat, not only is he making money off of people's misery (and potentially making them more miserable - flax seed oil cures cancer my ass), BUT HIS INFOMERCIALS ARE ANNOYING.
 
2007-07-19 07:46:20 PM  
soyelmocano:
Luckily I don't burn. My family seems to turn a dark color very easily. I've only put sunblock on a few times in my life, even though I've spent extended time in the Dominican Republic, on the ocean, in FL, GA (where it feels hotter than the previous places), etc.
But I do feel bad for those that lobster up and are miserable for a few days.


The fact that you don't burn doesn't mean you are immune to skin cancer, though.
 
2007-07-19 07:50:26 PM  
First I changed my homepage from CNN, then to Fark.

I got too much of the Weird World News that way, so I switched it to Fark "geek".

... I feel like I'm wasting my time browsing stuff like this, particularly on a page describing itself as "geek".

Fark let me down on that one: not funny, not amusing, not informing - a complete waste of my time. WTF?
 
2007-07-19 09:29:13 PM  
wjllope: (Vitamin D) - You need it.

but you can get it in other ways.



No you can't

The active vitamin D metabolite 1,25 VitaminD3 is produced in the skin upon exposure to the sun. It is damn-near impossible to get it via diet.

There is compelling evidence showing the sunscreen-crazed psyche is contributing to an increase in cancer rates from depletion of VitD, which is a cancer preventative.

There is a difference b/w sun-worshipping and a moderate exposure to sun (1-2 hours a day)

/cancer researcher; endocrinologist
 
2007-07-19 09:36:45 PM  
rocinante721: The active vitamin D metabolite 1,25 VitaminD3 is produced in the skin upon exposure to the sun. It is damn-near impossible to get it via diet.

Are vitamin D supplements effective? I'm an office dweller, so I take those sometimes.
 
2007-07-19 09:53:04 PM  
Hah!

Eat cancer, surface dwellers!
 
2007-07-19 10:57:45 PM  
Great now I'll have farked up flipper babies if the site linked in the article is right.
 
2007-07-19 11:10:43 PM  
I'd rather take my chances with the "poisonous" chemicals than definitely get sun poisoning again.

Then again, maybe I'm just stupid.
 
2007-07-19 11:30:46 PM  
according to this article from EWG's website, sunscreen and lack of proper sunlight also lead to obesity, depression, and schizophrenia... and that sunburns are caused by poor diet

as someone who burns easily, i desperately hope all of this is true, don't feel like having to slather sunscreen on the rest of my life (funny tho, sometimes i burn faster with sunscreen, sometimes i don't burn at all without sunscreen, sometimes i just plain burn, and sometimes the sunscreen helps, my experience with sunscreen is that it's a crap shoot)
 
2007-07-20 12:10:58 AM  
rocinante721:

There's always the prescription form (alfacalcidol).

SaladMonkey

If they don't work, that's news to my doctor. (I'm on both the prescription and the OTC form.)

/kidney diseased
//no steroids or dialysis yet, thank FSM
 
x.
2007-07-20 05:50:38 AM  
I'm guessing the majority of people interested in that article are red-heads, mainly because that white shiat is our only means of enjoying the outdoors. It sucks that it's full of conspiracy nutjob mumbo jumbo. Oh well.

/red-head
//not quite ginger, but I still burn easily
 
2007-07-20 10:54:44 AM  
Can we say one sided conspiracy?
Altogether now!
 
2007-07-20 01:02:23 PM  
birdistasty

I'd rather take my chances with the "poisonous" chemicals than definitely get sun poisoning again.

Then again, maybe I'm just stupid.


Well, you did call a sun burn "sun poisoning"
 
2007-07-20 01:06:55 PM  
You can get your vitamin D from about 15 minutes' exposure to the sun. (Takes longer if you're darker-complected.)

Supplements do get absorbed. D3 is more efficiently absorbed than D2. Low levels of vitamin D in the blood are associated with all kinds of health problems, notably risk of cancer (new window), mood and cognitive problems (new window), and osteoporosis (new window).

The current DV is 400IU, but that is just enough to prevent rickets. Something over 1000IU a day are recommended (new window). (2000 is the safe upper limit.)
 
2007-07-20 02:21:06 PM  
can i chuck some legitimate science in here?

the most common UV blocking compound here in Australian stuff is zinc oxide, and maybe followed by titanium oxide. (i think)

this article is talking about compounds behaving like estrogen!
so basically, there are hormones/drugs in the cosmetics.

inorganic compounds are not usually drugs (not including lithium or chelates)

thus, buy the least cosmetic sun block available!
DONT buy the scented, anti-inflammatory, Technicolor, body tanning, body cleaning, lubricating sun screens... because they are the ones with all the extra organic compounds with complicated production processes, that are more likely to interact.


also, if youre allergic to zinc.... just wear a hat
 
2007-07-20 11:15:54 PM  
Welllllllllllll what a shiatty article. Not an ounce of science and a bunch of self-aggrandizing propaganda. This guy is a farking nut. I agree on one point though and that is that the FDA should review the safety of sunscreens. Anything that gets put on your skin like lotion or sunscreen should have some set of safety standards.
 
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