I always get a kick out of these feel-good programs.
I hope they have one of these near me. I have an old Turkish Mauser I bought for $40. I already removed the parts I needed and it still looks like a usable rifle. That will be a nice little profit.

No way, I already learned about this trap from The Shield. I'll be keeping all of the weapons I used in unsolved murders, thank you.

Meh... I actually have two pistols that were given to me in less then functional condition. I figured I could get them reworked. Maybe I should trade them in and go pick up a new one.

I can't believe that after all of this time municipalities can be this damned stupid.

/Yes I can.

Finally that gun-making monkey in my basement will turn me a profit.

/Got nothin

Finally! Now all the crime problems in Chicago will go away!

Thank goodness for outside-of-the-box, innovative solutions such as this. Finally, we can rest peacefully at night.

Thank you, Chicago.

loving the scams
kutgw

My least expensive gun is worth about $250.

/not available for comment

bitteroldman: I have an old Turkish Mauser I bought for $40. I already removed the parts I needed and it still looks like a usable rifle. That will be a nice little profit.

I have about ten rifles (Mosin Nagant M44 Carbines) that I bought as parts guns for $10.00 each years ago. I've taken off the parts I want, do you think they'd mind a visit from Wisconsin?

Gig103

Maybe if you stopped taking away citizen's guns, they'd defend themselves better.

More than 30 children have been killed on public school property this year, overwhelmingly from guns. Do you suggest the kiddies start packing too?

Unfortunately, Chicago is ringed by gun dealers who sell to middle men, who in turn sell firearms on the streets. Others buy from further down south and at gun shows.

What was that ridiculous movie showing a Russian fugitive killing gangsters to get a firearm? He could have purchased one anywhere.

Has anybody else considered slapping together some wood and pipe to make a crappy but functional gun, just to make $95 or so profit?

Or to stand outside one of these buyback centers with a pile of cash and pick up some nice collectibles?

I love the gun threads. Has anyone posted the "vote from the rooftops" picture yet? That give me a raging hard-on.

How about trading in your guns for a tax break? That seems like a more reasonable solution. Unless you live here in Alabama, where you pay no farking taxes to begin with.

I'm fairly sure not every single buyback gun is handed over with the intent of buying a replacement. You have to think in a city as big as Chicago, there are going to be at least a few legitimate cases of "I don't want a gun in the house anymore".

Unless you live here in Alabama, where you pay no farking taxes to begin with.

Is that why Alabama is such a beacon of enterprise?

Gig103: You mean people who commit murders are using illegal guns? I never would have imagined that!!

Not me. I make sure to legally register my guns before I go out on a murdering spree. Doesn't everybody? I mean, it's common decency.

abennion: Gig103

Maybe if you stopped taking away citizen's guns, they'd defend themselves better.

More than 30 children have been killed on public school property this year, overwhelmingly from guns. Do you suggest the kiddies start packing too?


How many of those 'children' were 16-18 years-old? And how many of those had previously been in jail? I'd put money that 25 of the 30 being dead probably make the world a better place by not procreating.

There's a way to solve the problem of crime, but it would result in a lot of lost jobs, many of them in government, so such a soln. will be implemented over a lot of dead bodies.

Has Chicago tried a Guns for Tots program yet?

Now all we need is a 20's style gangster a block away with a sign saying "$101 For Your Guns"

Gosling: I'm fairly sure not every single buyback gun is handed over with the intent of buying a replacement. You have to think in a city as big as Chicago, there are going to be at least a few legitimate cases of "I don't want a gun in the house anymore".

Yeah, like in situations where a person decides to leave their local well regulated militia

Ant: Gig103: You mean people who commit murders are using illegal guns? I never would have imagined that!!

Not me. I make sure to legally register my guns before I go out on a murdering spree. Doesn't everybody? I mean, it's common decency.

As erik316wttn once told me, 'You will never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.' Someone's probably that stupid.

the thing is, collectables get thrown out by ignorant grandma types. "this damn things been in th ehouse since th war,i dont want it anymore" and BAMF a 1000 dollar luger that coulda helped that woman out financially is off to be melted. waaaah

You mean people who commit murders are using illegal guns? I never would have imagined that!!

Seriously. We have to put up with the people buying guns in stupid little towns like Cicero and Berwyn and smuggling them over the border. Maybe if Illinois (and then, of course, the USA) would get off it's collective ass and ban handgun ownership (outside of a target range) like any moral society would, we'd have less of a problem. But no, we have the myth of "personal defense" from the NRA.

What bothers me is that some pretty good collectibles have (and will) get thrown out with the bathwater...

Not going to happen. You can bet your sweet ass cops will snag anything really nice before it goes to the crusher. That's anywhere, this being Chicago practically guarantees it.

Buddy of mine finds a nice S&W revolver in a ditch and takes it to the Sheriff's Dept., figures it could have been involved in a crime. Has a long chat with the desk sergeant who tells him he can keep it if he comes back in a week and it's not hot. A week later, same cop, "Gun, what gun? Thank you for stopping by."

Wow a buyback program that does not even have to expend cash. What genius.

Gosling: I'm fairly sure not every single buyback gun is handed over with the intent of buying a replacement. You have to think in a city as big as Chicago, there are going to be at least a few legitimate cases of "I don't want a gun in the house anymore".

The thing is, if its a legal gun, you can quite probably get a lot more than 100 dollars for it.

I liked the bibles-for-porn program better...

We do this all the time and some people even will give the cops a gun inturn for a drug crime the cops gets a day off for"finding a handgun" and the perp gets to go back to his corner to sell his drugs

JosephFinn: You mean people who commit murders are using illegal guns? I never would have imagined that!!

Seriously. We have to put up with the people buying guns in stupid little towns like Cicero and Berwyn and smuggling them over the border. Maybe if Illinois (and then, of course, the USA) would get off it's collective ass and ban handgun ownership (outside of a target range) like any moral society would, we'd have less of a problem. But no, we have the myth of "personal defense" from the NRA.

Leaving aside the jaw-dropping asshattery of even thinking something as stupid as "myth of personal defense" (to say nothing of actually posting it), are you really naive enough to think that a ban on civilian handgun ownership is even remotely workable? That the millions of US gun owners would voluntarily comply? That if (read: when) they told the government to go fark itself that the law would be even slightly enforceable?

/rolls eyes

JosephFinn: Maybe if Illinois (and then, of course, the USA) would get off it's collective ass and ban handgun ownership (outside of a target range) like any moral society would, we'd have less of a problem. But no, we have the myth of "personal defense" from the NRA.

Why is "personal defense" a myth?

I know a few people who have defended themselves from crime using handguns. Without the presence of a gun, those people would likely have been seriously injured or killed. There's even a blog of all the reported cases of self-defense...hardly mythical, I'd say.

Do you honestly believe that a ban on handguns would reduce crime? I mean, a ban on alcohol clearly reduced drinking, and a ban of various drugs, billions of dollars in police expenses, infringements of rights, and massive overseas operations (like in Colombia and Afghanistan) have been going on for years, yet drug use is effectively unchanged. Do you really think that banning handguns, which are compact and durable (as opposed to consumable drugs and alcohol) will stop criminals?

.....

Anyway, I find the term "buyback" to be a bit of a misnomer: the guns were never the government's to begin with, so they can't buy them back.

JosephFinn: Seriously. We have to put up with the people buying guns in stupid little towns like Cicero and Berwyn and smuggling them over the border. Maybe if Illinois (and then, of course, the USA) would get off it's collective ass and ban handgun ownership (outside of a target range) like any moral society would, we'd have less of a problem. But no, we have the myth of "personal defense" from the NRA.

so if their banned outright, criminally-minded folks would stop buying them elsewhere and sneaking them over the border?

and after 7 years of steady erosion on the constitution, you really trust the GOVERNMENT with guns more than citizens?!?!

1.Buy a $19.95 pellet/dart gun from Walmart.
2.Turn it in for $100 gift certificate
3.While tryin' not to laugh too hard
4.Profit!


Maybe if Illinois (and then, of course, the USA) would get off it's collective ass and ban handgun ownership (outside of a target range) like any moral society would, we'd have less of a problem. But no, we have the myth of "personal defense" from the NRA.


Don't leave your basement,ever....

ReisFlynn: The thing is, if its a legal gun, you can quite probably get a lot more than 100 dollars for it.

yeah but you have to find someone to sell it to and possibly have the "why can't this person just buy a gun from a reputable dealer" on your conscience. My friend did something similar with a shotgun he won. Rather than try to find a buyer that would pay $250 or whatever it was approx. worth he took it to a shop and got like $100 for it just to be done with it.

BigBooper: bitteroldman: I have an old Turkish Mauser I bought for $40. I already removed the parts I needed and it still looks like a usable rifle. That will be a nice little profit.

I have about ten rifles (Mosin Nagant M44 Carbines) that I bought as parts guns for $10.00 each years ago. I've taken off the parts I want, do you think they'd mind a visit from Wisconsin?


DO IT. Easy money - more than you'd get selling em for parts or assembled for that matter. I'm selling a few of mine - hope to see you there.

JosephFinn: Seriously. We have to put up with the people buying guns in stupid little towns like Cicero and Berwyn and smuggling them over the border. Maybe if Illinois (and then, of course, the USA) would get off it's collective ass and ban handgun ownership (outside of a target range) like any moral society would, we'd have less of a problem. But no, we have the myth of "personal defense" from the NRA.

You mean a myth like this one?

/CC permit holder

JosephFinn 2007-07-18 05:03:02 PM
Maybe if Illinois (and then, of course, the USA) would get off it's collective ass and ban handgun ownership (outside of a target range) like any moral society would, we'd have less of a problem. But no, we have the myth of "personal defense" from the NRA.

it's no myth. and self-defense is moral. depriving the citizen of his means to defend himself, not so much.

and if they actually managed to ban handguns, a lot more people would be killed by armed robbers using sawn-off shotguns.

abennion,

You are pointing out that gun free zones such as schools have more shootings. That's not evidence that gun free zones are safe.

To answer your question, no, we shouldn't force kids to pack heat, but I see no problem with several kids bringing their hunting rifles to school or for the school to have a gun safety range. I also think adults should be permitted to conceal guns on any school.

In the past, people have stopped school shootings without any friendly fire problems with other people. The really bad school shootings always share the component of no armed good guys being on the scene.

You can't control people. Some are bad and some are good. If people are empowered to take care of themselves, the world won't be perfect but will be much better than if you rely on some law to keep guns away from criminals.

Further, every single child should fire guns. It's basic safety. An gun abstinence policy leads to accidental shootings for kids who never learned proper safety rules.

They always get some sweet stuff in the mix.
choice and consequence is right on what happens.

Anyone ever see those old clips from the 30's where they are tossing bag loads of guns into the water off NY. Brings a tear to my eye when you see a gun that would be worth 20K today go overboard.

Frantic Freddie: 1.Buy a $19.95 pellet/dart gun from Walmart.
2.Turn it in for $100 gift certificate
3.While tryin' not to laugh too hard
4.Profit!

abbennion: Most likely. We're screwed because we won't raise taxes because everybody here thinks that taxes=homosataniliberalism and we can't raise money for schools with a lottery because the lottery is gambling, and gambling's a sin! Seriously, I work with a guy who owns 6 1/2 acres of land that he doesn't do anything with, and he gets a $150 SUBSIDY from the state! For what?? And if have a house on your land, your average property tax here is well under $700 annually.

It's a great place to live if you can get past all that. Contrary to belief, 99% of the people are quite nice, even the super-religious ones. Oh, but it's hot as hell, so that's another thing :/

baorao: yeah but you have to find someone to sell it to and possibly have the "why can't this person just buy a gun from a reputable dealer" on your conscience. My friend did something similar with a shotgun he won. Rather than try to find a buyer that would pay $250 or whatever it was approx. worth he took it to a shop and got like $100 for it just to be done with it.

I've sold guns to private citizens before in face-to-face transactions. They weren't seedy at all, and were generally people that my trusted friends vouched for, or that I knew personally.

Many people buy on the private market because guns tend to be cheaper (no dealer markup or overhead, sort of like why people frequently buy used cars) and it's always nice to have a few guns around that the government doesn't know about.

That said, given the choice of "giving the guns to the government to be destroyed" or "selling the guns to the local gun shop or putting them up on consignment", the choice is pretty clear in my mind (if the guns are legal, sell them to the shop. If not, give them to the government or drop them in a river.).

Drat, if it wasn't such a pain in the ass to travel on an airplane with a firearm, I'd bring a few and have my whole trip paid for by Chicago this weekend.

In the past we had a couple of these events for free pizzas. The only people who showed up were the elderly and people with broken worthless guns. To make matters worse, the people working the tables don't really have a knowledge of antique guns and I saw at least 2 widows bring in guns that were worth good money. They were simply thrown into the barrel and some more elderly persons were taken advantage of by headline grabbing politicians. Grandma could have eaten well for a couple of weeks on what those guns could of got at auction. One lady brought in her dead husbands Gettysburg Bullet collection because she thought they were dangerous.

ReisFlynn: The thing is, if its a legal gun, you can quite probably get a lot more than 100 dollars for it.

Which it isn't, if you live in the city limits.

priestrape: I love the gun threads. Has anyone posted the "vote from the rooftops" picture yet? That give me a raging hard-on.

Do you disagree with the idea that the second amendment intended to protect firearms for possible use against agents of the state, be they political or military?

Just asking.