czarangelus: I feel so validated when someone goes out of their way to say something like this, hours after the posting, to me.

Glad you feel validated. Although, knowing you, you'll find a way to make it work against you so you can biatch about it.

/waaaaah.

You lazy douche. You complain every damn day about not having money, not having anything, having a shiatty job.
These things don't FALL on you. You have to work for them.
If you don't want to work for a better life, you have no right to complain about the shiatty one you have.
Suck it up Nancy.

tweekster: I think i have figured it out, the lack of ambition led you to getting a philosophy degree. Yes it is an easy degree to get.

Business students don't even have to write a thesis anymore, much to my disgust. Now there is a bullshiat degree.

Nabb1: but then you want to do nothing about your present situation but complain and blame society.

I am doing something. I'm hanging out at a job I hate to build my resume a little before I look again. Last time, when I had no experience that wasn't toilet cleaning, waiting, or fast food serving, putting it on a resume was worse than useless. And so was my degree standing on its own.

czarangelus: Ambition has filled the oceans and landfills with plastic that won't break down for eons. Ambition has exterminated tens of thousands of species. Ambition has cut down trees, carved up mountains, poisoned the air, water, and soil, and diverted the flow of rivers. Ambition builds skyscrapers and then bombs them.

Ambition is what makes the difference between someone who is contributing to society and empty-suit waste case morons like you who leech of the hard work of others while spounting pompous sanctimonious bullshiat, like the above.

Listen, in 20 years, when you're washing my car, tending to my bushes, or serving me fries, do me a big favor: shut the fark up when you do it. I don't want to have to put a beating on my servants in public, it makes me look like a meanie.

An after all that, I bet you don't even UNDERSTAND Wittgenstein. You just like to pretend you do.

czarangelus:

"I am doing something. I'm hanging out at a job I hate to build my resume a little before I look again. Last time, when I had no experience that wasn't toilet cleaning, waiting, or fast food serving, putting it on a resume was worse than useless. And so was my degree standing on its own."


That is why you fail. Hanging out is not doing something, that is the total lack of doing something, which is the attitude I have been talking about, and that you do not have the level of ambition to even be able to support a family which you alluded to earlier. Basically you are at a 0, you need to be at a 3 on the scale of ambition.

nemecizer: An after all that, I bet you don't even UNDERSTAND Wittgenstein. You just like to pretend you do.

I wrote my thesis on Wittgenstein...

Listen, in 20 years, when you're washing my car, tending to my bushes, or serving me fries, do me a big favor: shut the fark up when you do it. I don't want to have to put a beating on my servants in public, it makes me look like a meanie.

Listen, in 20 years, when the servant class has finally lopped off all your heads, don't come crying to me.

Nabb1: Then, is it not some level of ambition that drives you to build a career instead of simply taking some random job that provides you with a certain comfort level? Have you no drive to prove yourself capable to prospective employers down the road?

This may be a kind of ambition, but it's certainly different in degree and perhaps different in kind from the people who work only for the next toy, or for the ability to use wealth as a lever to control other people.

Unhip1: People with stock in hedge and mutual funds, the credit industry and private equity firms rejoice

John Q. Public and Joe Blow...not so much.

Don't biatch because you're too damn stupid to have any investments. Anybody with half a brain can start up a Roth IRA in about 20 minutes without even leaving home.

czarangelus:
Listen, in 20 years, when the servant class has finally lopped off all your heads, don't come crying to me

In 20 years if that comes true, you will be known as cannon fodder

czarangelus: Listen, in 20 years, when the servant class has finally lopped off all your heads, don't come crying to me.

Finally the commie side comes out. A philosophy by a loser embraced by losers, implemented by cutthroats who's only aspirations are to become fat, wealthy slackers enjoying the fruits of other's labor. No wonder you don't get along with your parents. If you were your own parent would you be proud or embarrassed?

czarangelus [TotalFark] Quote 2007-07-17 04:08:54 PM


Listen, in 20 years, when the servant class has finally lopped off all your heads, don't come crying to me.


Your revolution is over, Mr. Lebowski. Condolences. The bums lost.

ko_kyi: If you were your own parent would you be proud or embarrassed?

What if you were your own grandfather?



He did the nasty in the past-y

There won't be a revolution if no one has the ambition to start it, now will there?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

czarangelus: I wrote my thesis on Wittgenstein...

Look, I don't care what you actually *did* at the third-rate college you attended. It's clear from what you write that you cannot possibly have an understanding of Wittgenstein.

Answer me one question: did you have even one class in mathematical logic? Because if you didn't (and I doubt you did, such classes require real work), and if you haven't read (and understood) Peano, Frege, Whitehead, Russell, and Goedel, you can't say that you understand Wittgenstein.

You may THINK you understand Wittgenstein, but like so many other things, you fail.

Listen, in 20 years, when the servant class has finally lopped off all your heads, don't come crying to me.

Argumentum ad baculum. Fail.

czarangelus:


Shot at 2007-07-17

nemecizer: Look, I don't care what you actually *did* at the third-rate college you attended. It's clear from what you write that you cannot possibly have an understanding of Wittgenstein.

First rate and wayyyy too expensive private uni, thank you.

Answer me one question: did you have even one class in mathematical logic? Because if you didn't (and I doubt you did, such classes require real work), and if you haven't read

Formal logic and advanced logic.

Peano

No

Frege

A bit

Whitehead

Yes

Russell

Yes

Goedel

Don't think so.

Argumentum ad baculum. Fail.

I would like to see you "fail" with an argumentum ad baculum to someone actually holding a gun in your face. I suspect you'd be much less smug about it then.

czarangelus:

First rate and wayyyy too expensive private uni, thank you.


If i were you that would be my biggest secret

I wish I had time to read this whole thread. I do enjoy drinking the tears of socialists.

tweekster: czarangelus:

First rate and wayyyy too expensive private uni, thank you.


If i were you that would be my biggest secret

No kidding. Otherwise all the other trust fund brats will make fun of you at the Country Club Mixer.

czarangelus: First rate and wayyyy too expensive private uni, thank you.

Steston University? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

First rate my ass.

Formal logic and advanced logic.

Answer: no.

Peano

No

That's probably for the best, it requires an understanding of mathematics. It might have made you work.

Frege

A bit

Liar.

Whitehead

Yes

Russell

Yes

What did you read by them? If you don't say "Principia Mathematica" then you didn't really read Whitehead and Russell.

Goedel

Don't think so.

Shame, his work is on part with quantum mechanics and general relativity in its profoundness. His work on undecidability is one of the seminal pieces of 20th century thought.


I would like to see you "fail" with an argumentum ad baculum to someone actually holding a gun in your face. I suspect you'd be much less smug about it then.

Ad hominem tu quoque. Nice try, muppet.

(Did you even understand the "Advanced Logic" you claimed to have studied?)

FarkingBastige:

No kidding. Otherwise all the other trust fund brats bums will make fun of you at the Country Club Mixer. soup kitchen

FTFY

if you are so poor why do you have total fark? >.>

tweekster: FarkingBastige:

No kidding. Otherwise all the other trust fund brats bums will make fun of you at the Country Club Mixer. soup kitchen

FTFY

Now be nice. I'm sure mummsy and papa still have him over sometimes. It's not like is poor for real!

Czar, if you are so poor why do you have total fark? >.>

Algebrat: And whatever first rate college you went to makes you sound like Irving "Permanently High Plateau" Fisher.

Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

I will let you live another day as I am busy deconstructing czarangelus, but cross me again and I will shred you with my wit and keen logic. Seriously, you'll cry like a little girl when I am done with you.

You have been warned.

nemecizer: Ad hominem tu quoque. Nice try, muppet.

And there's no ad hominems in your post. Oh please.

Anyway, as if I answered to you or had to prove myself to you, I frankly don't remember what all I read of those people. It was mainly a suppliment for my thesis. In fact, when I actually sat down to write my thesis, I found I used a lot more Aristotle than Wittgenstein anyway. I ended up going off on an ethics tangent rather than focusing on math/logic/linguistics.

But, nemecizer, can you really top Nabb1's comeback? I laughed. I cried.

I think I've laughed so hard I should thank czarangelus.

Damn it. The Dow is up, and my Vanguard Growth & Income fund (VQNPX) is down.

Any recommendations on a better pony?


Thanks.

nemecizer: I will let you live another day as I am busy deconstructing czarangelus, but cross me again and I will shred you with my wit and keen logic. Seriously, you'll cry like a little girl when I am done with you.



MIT seems to breed extremely aggressive geeks. Kinda reminds me of really annoyed sea bass.


/sister-in-law goes to MIT
//made a robot lobster
///it's probably evil

czarangelus: And there's no ad hominems in your post.

You are mistaking insults for ad hominem fallacy. I thought you studied logic?

Anyway, as if I answered to you or had to prove myself to you, I frankly don't remember what all I read of those people.

Why not, didn't you learn it? Are you seriously telling me that you can't remeber whether or not you read "Principia Mathematica"?

You are even lazier than I thought.

It was mainly a suppliment for my thesis. In fact, when I actually sat down to write my thesis, I found I used a lot more Aristotle than Wittgenstein anyway. I ended up going off on an ethics tangent rather than focusing on math/logic/linguistics.

Let's be honest here, it really isn't a "thesis". It's more of a senior project or glorified paper. Theses require original research, not rote regurgitation or amalgamation of things that you read and thought you understood.

Devin172: MIT seems to breed extremely aggressive geeks. Kinda reminds me of really annoyed sea bass.

Geeks are worse than jocks with "arrogant alpha male syndrome" a good part of the time. Read the Ruthless Reviews movie review of "300", total homoerotic nerd violence porn. I'd link it but I can't get to it at work.

nemecizer: Why not, didn't you learn it? Are you seriously telling me that you can't remeber whether or not you read "Principia Mathematica"?

Really? Nope. I'm not very good at math and I don't much like it. If I did read the Principia Mathematica I probably didn't understand a great deal of it, so it wouldn't have highly registered. "Why I am Not a Christian," however, I found greatly interesting. And the Principia Discordia? Now that is sublime.

Let's be honest here, it really isn't a "thesis". It's more of a senior project or glorified paper. Theses require original research, not rote regurgitation or amalgamation of things that you read and thought you understood.

I tried to write up a new ethical theory which was predicated on context and adaptability rather than rules. Of course I drew from previous writers, like Aristotle with virtue ethics, and I drew from Wittgenstein for the idea of contextualization.

Devin172: MIT seems to breed extremely aggressive geeks. Kinda reminds me of really annoyed sea bass.

You will laugh, but when I was there a co-worker actually designed a laser that could be mounted on an annoyed sea bass' head. Miniturization of the power source was the only barrier to a patent, he said.

Algebrat: And I once drew a horsy in third grade that got me two gold stars.


Clearly, we have a winner. LOL.


/I laughed
//...and laughed

czarangelus 2007-07-17 04:08:54 PM
I wrote my thesis on Wittgenstein...

czarangelus 2007-07-17 04:47:58 PM
In fact, when I actually sat down to write my thesis, I found I used a lot more Aristotle than Wittgenstein anyway.


Juxtaposition ftw

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Juxtaposition ftw

It was originally on Wittgenstein. Did all the readings for it in Wittgenstein. In the course of writing the first half, I ended up wandering off into the magical land of ethics and I had to take another semester of thesis readings because I'd strayed too far from the texts I had been working with. However, I'd say that the two biggest influences, if not citations, on my thesis were Aristotle and Wittgenstein.

czarangelus: Wittgenstein

I base all my arguments on the rantings of gay, suicidal piano players.

czarangelus: Business students don't even have to write a thesis anymore, much to my disgust. Now there is a bullshiat degree.

Right, which is why business majors make money and philosophy majors work phone banks and piss and moan all day.

Algebrat: My excitement borders sexual.

That's kinda creepy, actually...

I did my undergrad in Math at CMU, by the way.

I had a roommate in graduate school who did his undergrad at CMU. We made him clean the toilet in the apartment.

Probably got the same education as you,

Never!

with fewer loans and a better sense of humor.

Better sense of humor? Than moi?

Wrapping up my MPA part-time now (I work in the public sector), starting the J.D. next year. And I once drew a horsy in third grade that got me two gold stars.

BA, SM, PhD.

But hang onto the memory of those stars, you need something to be proud of.

czarangelus: It was originally on Wittgenstein. Did all the readings for it in Wittgenstein. In the course of writing the first half, I ended up wandering off into the magical land of ethics and I had to take another semester of thesis readings because I'd strayed too far from the texts I had been working with. However, I'd say that the two biggest influences, if not citations, on my thesis were Aristotle and Wittgenstein.

So at the end of the day your "thesis" wasn't on Wittgenstein after all.

You're really not very good at much, are you?

Czarangelus: Listen, in 20 years, when the servant class has finally lopped off all your heads, don't come crying to me.

Dude, it's puff puff pass, not smoke the whole damn thing yourself.

In 20 years there will be no class revolution in America. Despite all its faults America still has tremendous upward mobility for those willing to work for it. Lazy spolied white males with delusions of entitlement like yourself aren't going to get up off the couch to start any revolution.

If your hoped for revolution comes to pass, do you know what will happen to you? Here's how the "revolution" will go for you. From each according to their ability; you are an unskilled worker so you will be made to do physical labor. To each according to their need; as an unskilled laborer all you need is a cot in a bunkhouse and subsistence rations. 2 bowls of porridge with an occasional scrap of meat should be enough to keep you working in the fields. What, you want to take some time off and read a novel? As an unskilled worker the collective has determined you have no need for books, now get back to the fields.

I notice that you're still using the time your employer is paying you to work to dishonestly goof off on Fark. If you're not going to do the job you're being paid to do you might as well take this time to learn some skills that will get you a better job. Proving how lazy you are to everyone reading this tread is not exactly helping you achieve your life goals.

Thrag: you are being paid to work and instead of working you are goofing off on fark, leeching from the company that is paying you to work.

Heyyyy...I resemble that remark.

Thrag: To each according to their need; as an unskilled laborer all you need is a cot in a bunkhouse and subsistence rations. 2 bowls of porridge with an occasional scrap of meat should be enough to keep you working in the fields in the office/machine shop/operating room.

Isn't that all anyone would need? Who could deservedly ask for more?

I notice that you're still using the time your employer is paying you to work to dishonestly goof off on Fark

If you had a job you wouldn't be so judgmental.

czarangelus: I tried to write up a new ethical theory which was predicated on context and adaptability rather than rules. Of course I drew from previous writers, like Aristotle with virtue ethics, and I drew from Wittgenstein for the idea of contextualization.

So what exactly did you learn to do in college?