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(Breitbart.com)   Man gets 21 months in prison for lying about funneling money to Hamas. Good thing he wasn't a teenager having sex with his underage girlfriend or he'd really be in trouble   (breitbart.com) divider line 97
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2007-07-12 09:19:56 AM
OH SNAP!

\+1 subby
\\need coffee
 
2007-07-12 09:23:59 AM
Oh, +1 you magnificent bastard.
 
2007-07-12 09:28:12 AM
The same jury, however, did convict Salah of a single count of obstruction of justice for lying under oath

Telling the truth is the bedrock of our judicial system, and a slap on the wrist will not provide a deterrent," U.S. District Judge Amy St. Eve said in sentencing Salah


He should appeal to President Bush, lying under oath doesn't merit jail time anymore. Right?
 
2007-07-12 09:31:55 AM
Gotta give props where they are due...
 
2007-07-12 10:03:37 AM
Dancin_In_Anson: Gotta give props where they are due...

"not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims!"

Anyone that believes that is an idiot.
 
2007-07-12 10:08:54 AM
Dinki: Anyone that believes that is an idiot.

Sorry, 99.5% of the terrorists out there are Muslim.

The IRA still has a few hold-outs, and they're going to get around to blowing something up just as soon as they finish one last Guiness.
 
2007-07-12 10:16:37 AM
vernonFL: He should appeal to President Bush, lying under oath doesn't merit jail time anymore. Right?

There's a "b...b...but Clinton" joke in there somewhere, but damned if I can find it.
 
2007-07-12 11:44:28 AM
Well played subs.

/hm...these buttons are pretty convenient
//need a 'slashy' button
 
2007-07-12 11:44:46 AM
+1 Subby *awesome* headline

/Genarlow would like a word with Hamas, please
 
2007-07-12 11:44:53 AM
SchlingFo: Sorry, 99.5% of the terrorists out there are Muslim.

Right...that 0.5% is much more active apparently!

Just look at the major US bombings... WTC, Oklahoma City...
 
2007-07-12 11:46:12 AM
Awesome headline submitter. No cock punch... for now.
 
2007-07-12 11:46:54 AM
I guess subby thinks Hamas isn't a terrorist organization...

/only 21 months?
 
2007-07-12 11:47:20 AM
Well, so long as it wasn't 30 months.

That'd be excessive.
 
2007-07-12 11:47:32 AM
discount sushi: OH SNAP!

\+1 subby

My thoughts exactly.
 
2007-07-12 11:47:41 AM
Lying under oath? That's unheard of.
 
2007-07-12 11:47:50 AM
BTW, the DA in the teen sex case has been "widely" distributing child pornography since the trial:
http://www.cbs46.com/news/13665450/detail.html

Consequences: He politely requests that you return the tapes, thanks.
 
2007-07-12 11:47:53 AM
mrtron: SchlingFo: Sorry, 99.5% of the terrorists out there are Muslim.

Right...that 0.5% is much more active apparently!

Just look at the major US bombings... WTC, Oklahoma City...


Don't forgte the Chicago 7. Back then those dirty hippies looked like dirty Arabs anyway.
 
2007-07-12 11:48:11 AM
they're digging in the wrong place!
 
2007-07-12 11:48:46 AM
mrtron: SchlingFo: Sorry, 99.5% of the terrorists out there are Muslim.

Right...that 0.5% is much more active apparently!

Just look at the major US bombings... WTC, Oklahoma City...


The WTC bombing was carried out my Muslim extremists. Ever heard of Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman?
 
2007-07-12 11:49:10 AM
Perhaps Hamas was just the name of his dry cleaner?
 
2007-07-12 11:50:20 AM
Did someone say, "Guiness"?
 
2007-07-12 11:51:18 AM
Despite kind words and feelings Hamas would gladly behead subby.
 
2007-07-12 11:52:53 AM
Daffydil: Did someone say, "Guiness"?

Why, yes. Yes, I did :)
 
2007-07-12 11:53:57 AM
Oh puh-leeese.

*rolls eyes*

NEXT!
 
2007-07-12 11:55:01 AM
Nabb1: The WTC bombing was carried out my Muslim extremists. Ever heard of Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman?

Those 2 bombings are (to me) the latest and largest.
I was implying at least half were done by local non-Muslim crazies.

Which seems to suggest that the "99.5% of terrorist are Muslim" is wildly inaccurate.
 
2007-07-12 11:55:03 AM
Excellent headline!

You think our justice system will get the innuendo?
 
2007-07-12 11:55:07 AM
descubriendo nunca jamás.
 
2007-07-12 11:55:20 AM
"I was homeless and it gave me a home, I was stateless and it gave me a state," he told St. Eve.

This makes him sound like a pretty nice guy.
 
2007-07-12 11:56:17 AM
Nabb1: The WTC bombing was carried out my Muslim extremists. Ever heard of Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman?

Rahman? Wasn't he a Pastafarian?
 
2007-07-12 11:56:25 AM
mrtron: SchlingFo: Sorry, 99.5% of the terrorists out there are Muslim.

Right...that 0.5% is much more active apparently!

Just look at the major US bombings... WTC, Oklahoma City...


Wow.
Just frikkin wow.
Helluva point you got there, wear a hat and maybe nobody will notice.
 
2007-07-12 11:57:11 AM
Dinki
Anyone that believes that is an idiot.

Fine, I'll fix it.

"not all Muslims are terrorists, but just about all terrorists are Muslims!"

Happy?
 
2007-07-12 11:57:24 AM
mrtron: SchlingFo: Sorry, 99.5% of the terrorists out there are Muslim.

Right...that 0.5% is much more active apparently!

Just look at the major US bombings... WTC, Oklahoma City...


Let's see... Oklahoma City was 1 person, Timothy McVeigh although I admit he might have had an accomplice. WTC attacks were carried out by al Qaeda whose membership is estimated at some 50,000.

Interesting that the terrorists you name in your counterexample are 99.995% muslim.

Seems like "99.5% of terrorists are muslim" is an underestimate.
 
2007-07-12 11:57:38 AM
I just skimmed over the article, but what's the big deal here? He was acquitted of the criminal offense of funneling money, so all they could do was get him for perjury in a civil case. I'd say this sentence is quite harsh for civil perjury. How many people do you hear of going to jail for that?

/Remember, I said perjury in a civil case, not a criminal one.
 
2007-07-12 11:57:44 AM
He should appeal to President Bush, lying under oath doesn't merit jail time anymore. Right?

Unless you're lying about sex, that'll get you locked up for the rest of your life.
 
2007-07-12 11:58:09 AM
mrtron: Which seems to suggest that the "99.5% of terrorist are Muslim" is wildly inaccurate.

I wouldn't say "wildly." Oklahoma City was of course not a Muslim terrorist act, but I think if you look globally - Europe, American, certainly Indonesia - and look at the past ten years, a majority, even if not 99.5%, but a solid majority, of terrorist activity is related to Muslim extremism.
 
2007-07-12 11:58:11 AM
mrtron: Those 2 bombings are (to me) the latest and largest.
I was implying at least half were done by local non-Muslim crazies.

Which seems to suggest that the "99.5% of terrorist are Muslim" is wildly inaccurate.


That's only true if you look only at attacks on American soil. We do a fairly good job of screening out the Muslim crazies and keeping them from getting over here.

But, if you factor in all the terrorist attacks across the world, the vast majority of them are carried out by Muslims.
 
2007-07-12 11:58:22 AM
Good thing he wasn't a black teenager having sex with his underage girlfriend or he'd really be in trouble
/ftfy
 
2007-07-12 11:59:13 AM
SchlingFo: Sorry, 99.5% of the terrorists out there are Muslim.
mrtron: Just look at the major US bombings... WTC, Oklahoma City...
Billygoat Gruff: Don't forgte the Chicago 7. Back then those dirty hippies looked like dirty Arabs anyway.

What is a terrorist? Do you have to be specifically aligned against the US to be a terrorist?

Are the Mexican Zapatistas not terrorists?
The Darfur Militias? Are they not terrorists?
Latin American rebel groups? Not terrorist?
Are the Falun Gong not terrorists to China?
When Columbian drug cartels knock on a new politicians door and ask him "pluro o plato?" are these not terrorist acts?

What defines a terrorist in such a way that Muslims fighting against the US meet that definition but para-militaristic Africans slaughtering an ethnic minority don't?
 
2007-07-12 11:59:27 AM
If it wasn't for AIPAC's control of congress, it wouldn't be a crime. It is the kind of shiat they always pull.
I would like the freedom to send my money wherever I want. Just like American Jews get to send their money to Israel even though it is illegally occupying someone else's land. They get to set up funds that supply settlers with AK's and shiat. Then they have the gaul to to make it a crime for arab Americans to get money to their families back home.

/not an arab
 
2007-07-12 11:59:33 AM
Humean_Nature: Oh, +1 you magnificent bastard.


Could not agree more!
 
2007-07-12 11:59:46 AM
Good thing he wasn't a black teenager having sex with his white underage girlfriend or he'd really be in trouble
/fixed it even more
 
2007-07-12 12:00:04 PM
Oh don't worry about Hamas. They are only after the Joos.
 
2007-07-12 12:00:45 PM
Am I the only one who thinks maybe subby has a personal grievance?
 
2007-07-12 12:01:56 PM
Needs to be done
i24.photobucket.com
 
2007-07-12 12:02:30 PM
subby FAILS
All he did was take Neal Boort's rant and rewrite it...and it gets greenlit....what the fark. Someone tried to point it out to you farkers, and instead you get hung up on something else from the boortz page.

boortz.com/nuze/200707/07122007.html#hamas

/my work here is done
 
2007-07-12 12:03:04 PM
Asteron: mrtron: SchlingFo: Sorry, 99.5% of the terrorists out there are Muslim.

Right...that 0.5% is much more active apparently!

Just look at the major US bombings... WTC, Oklahoma City...

Let's see... Oklahoma City was 1 person, Timothy McVeigh although I admit he might have had an accomplice. WTC attacks were carried out by al Qaeda whose membership is estimated at some 50,000.

Interesting that the terrorists you name in your counterexample are 99.995% muslim.

Seems like "99.5% of terrorists are muslim" is an underestimate.


Link

Wanna rethink that one?
(pops)
 
2007-07-12 12:05:06 PM
SchlingFo-Why, yes. Yes, I did :)

I has beer please?
 
2007-07-12 12:05:32 PM
Nuuu: SchlingFo: Sorry, 99.5% of the terrorists out there are Muslim.
mrtron: Just look at the major US bombings... WTC, Oklahoma City...
Billygoat Gruff: Don't forgte the Chicago 7. Back then those dirty hippies looked like dirty Arabs anyway.

What is a terrorist? Do you have to be specifically aligned against the US to be a terrorist?

Are the Mexican Zapatistas not terrorists?
The Darfur Militias? Are they not terrorists?
Latin American rebel groups? Not terrorist?
Are the Falun Gong not terrorists to China?
When Columbian drug cartels knock on a new politicians door and ask him "pluro o plato?" are these not terrorist acts?

What defines a terrorist in such a way that Muslims fighting against the US meet that definition but para-militaristic Africans slaughtering an ethnic minority don't?



Meh, prosecute them all as hate crimes.
 
2007-07-12 12:06:06 PM
ter·ror·ism 'ter-&r-"i-z&m - the unlawful violence or other unlawful harmful acts committed (or threatened) against civilians by groups or persons as a means of coercion for political or other ideological goals.
 
2007-07-12 12:06:52 PM
Nuuu: Are the Mexican Zapatistas not terrorists?
The Darfur Militias? Are they not terrorists?
Latin American rebel groups? Not terrorist?


Terrorist groups are defined as groups who direct attacks specifically at civilian populations in order to effect fear and political change.

I don't know about the Darfur militias, but the Zapatistas, when they were engaged in active hostilities, were engaging the Mexican government, not blowing up civilians left and right.

Same goes for most of the Latin American rebel groups. They pretty much stick to fighting the government militaries.

Neither of those groups fit any working definition of "terrorist".

Are the Falun Gong not terrorists to China?

That's just really farking dumb. Go sit in the corner and think about how dumb it was to say that.
 
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