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(CNN)   Supreme Court Justices take potshots at each other in their opinions, i.e. flabby old rich men get biatchy with their peeps, too   (cnn.com) divider line 33
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2007-07-08 03:49:40 AM  
FTFA: One Supreme Court justice says his fellow conservatives are "too dismissive" of government efforts to ensure racial diversity in schools.


Here's an idea for the libtards. What if the 'races' insured their own diversity by doing well enough to meet admission standards in the first place?
 
2007-07-08 03:54:52 AM  
Be careful what you wish for, Dog. On a college visit, we passed through the National Institute for Aviation Research and looked at the wind tunnels...

Everyone in the building I saw that wasn't on the tour was Indian. As in, from India. The only non-Indians in the building were the professor in the wind tunnel room, a lost art major, and our tour group.
 
2007-07-08 03:57:23 AM  
Yeah, your right Mighty Dog, them n-words gotta be kept down.

They'll want your white wimmin next!
 
2007-07-08 04:03:50 AM  
fastbow, I'm not surprised. In most government schools, kids are either being taught that they're victims or (if they're white) that they're guilty.

We don't have 'Science Month'. We have Black History month.


The American government school system simply isn't going to produce enough graduates who are prepared to enter the hi-tech work force.

It's bad. But hey, maybe some government enforced 'diversity' will help! That, or we can just keep raising the minimum wage.


Thanks, liberals!
 
2007-07-08 04:04:10 AM  
Tynerhilltopper: They'll want your white wimmin next

Yeah! Look at what the Asians have done with the freedoms they have!!

At least they can't get the white wimmin! (new window)
 
2007-07-08 04:09:26 AM  
Mighty_Dog: I'm not surprised. In most government schools, kids are either being taught that they're victims or (if they're white) that they're guilty.

I feel no guilt. I have a slaveholder in my family history. If you didn't want to be a slave, shoulda ran faster.

Sadly, that's so right though. Plus, Black History Month is a farce. I agree with MLKJ Day, but a whole month? And without Cracker History Month? Without Asian History Month?

Where is your equality now?

Besides, black history can be summed up into one paragraph...
 
2007-07-08 04:12:10 AM  
fastbow: Without Asian History Month?

May.
 
2007-07-08 04:15:16 AM  
I stand corrected...

Where's my Cracker History Month though?
 
2007-07-08 04:16:22 AM  
There ain't NO hate like Mighty Dog hate! Gee, you self-aggrandizing canine, I'm SO SAD to be the one to inform you, but YOU LOSE.

Your Neocon ideology FAILS. Your president FAILS. Your idiotic, repetitive, mindless spittle-spewing rants against "libtards" FAIL.

You're just a sad little pathetic echo of a morally-bankrupt sociologically-inept ideology which will be forever remembered alongside Mussolini's fascism. You're a racist, sexist, homophobic, regressive, primitive, bigoted, hypocritical self-deluding asshole... and those are your GOOD qualities. :)

Do the whole wide world a huge favor, and just SHUT YOUR FUKKING MOUTH.

Okay? Thanks! :)
 
2007-07-08 04:22:26 AM  
grxymkjbn: stuff

Let me guess, government schools?

Ad Hominem is not effective debate, pal. Excellent trolling, though...
 
2007-07-08 04:26:41 AM  
grxymkjbn: Do the whole wide world a huge favor, and just SHUT YOUR FUKKING MOUTH.

But then he can't take on the world and be delivering the goods. For him, shutting his mouth would be akin to breaking the law.

/did I mention he used to be hellbentforleather? he seems to hate when I mention that
 
2007-07-08 04:29:06 AM  
fastbow: Let me guess, government schools?

Ad Hominem is not effective debate, pal. Excellent trolling, though...


Are you like, being ironic or something?
 
2007-07-08 04:29:13 AM  
Either way, his name sounds like bad porn. Must be the curriculum of choice in inner-city public schools....
 
2007-07-08 04:32:11 AM  
Donald_McRonald: Are you like, being ironic or something?

How? I was trying to be semi-funny serious with all my posts up until that one...

Well, I guess I don't have any room to talk anymore. The college I'm going to is a state school...
 
2007-07-08 04:35:44 AM  
fastbow: Let me guess, government schools?

Must be the curriculum of choice in inner-city public schools

Well, I guess I don't have any room to talk anymore. The college I'm going to is a state school...


I'm going to ask you a very serious question: did the public school system ever...touch you in an inappropriate way or area?
 
2007-07-08 04:36:37 AM  
grxymkjbn: You're just a sad little pathetic echo of a morally-bankrupt sociologically-inept ideology which will be forever remembered alongside Mussolini's fascism. You're a racist, sexist, homophobic, regressive, primitive, bigoted, hypocritical self-deluding asshole... and those are your GOOD qualities.



Now class, if you will observe, this is the reaction of the libtard species when it feels threatened. This often happens when the poor creatures are shown logic and facts.

Don't worry, it's a natural response designed to ward off a predator. If I can direct your attention over here, you'll see a display that contains ear-plugs, provided as a courtesy by zoo officials.

Now, if you'll follow me, we'll move on to the eco-feminist display. And here, I seriously suggest using the ear-plugs in advance...
 
2007-07-08 04:37:40 AM  
Nope. 14 years of private schools.

I was never within arms reach of the public schools...
 
2007-07-08 04:42:44 AM  
Mighty_Dog: liberals!

What, exactly, do you think this word means?
 
2007-07-08 04:49:39 AM  
ProdigalSigh: What, exactly, do you think this word means?

Who cares? It's free entertainment.
 
2007-07-08 05:36:41 AM  
Donald_McRonald: /did I mention he used to be hellbentforleather? he seems to hate when I mention that

Hahahahaha! Thank you so much; I didn't know. WTF Mighty_Dog?!? Was Alpo/K-nel ration taken already?
 
2007-07-08 05:41:34 AM  
fastbow: At least they can't get the white wimmin!

Link

All Hail Brooks
 
2007-07-08 07:45:20 AM  
Mighty_Dog: So how's the Klan doing these days???? Are you starting a new membership drive????
 
2007-07-08 09:31:56 AM  
Liberals are th true patriots and elevators of humanitty. I feel so complimented and proud when the only response to contraversy is "those dern leebralls".
 
2007-07-08 10:04:40 AM  
I agree with Mighty_Dog. We should thank Liberals for the minimum wage...
 
2007-07-08 10:30:54 AM  
FTA: "With the liberal bloc narrowly losing a number of high-profile cases this term -- including late-term abortion, campaign finance reform, and public school desegregation -- the political and legal stakes produced sharper ideological lines."

There is not a "liberal bloc" of SC justices. There is a "constitutional bloc" which includes Souter, Breyer and Ginsburg and a "radical conservative activist bloc" on the court which is made up of our more dim-witted justices. Author needs to pay closer attention.
 
2007-07-08 11:23:33 AM  
Mighty_Dog: Here's an idea for the libtards. What if the 'races' insured their own diversity by doing well enough to meet admission standards in the first place?

What if Judges upheld the written law and not just what you personally think it should be? I thought you "conservatives" were against judicial activism.
 
2007-07-08 02:58:39 PM  
FTA: "This faux judicial restraint is judicial obfuscation," Scalia wrote in a concurrence.

This statement made me laugh, much like "Eschew obfuscation."

Also, why don't we just skip the whole getting-SCOTUS-together-for-a-vote thing and just have Kennedy decide everything, since he's apparently the only one whose decisions are anything close to up in the air. (Rare occurrences like Scalia in the Hamdi case excepted.)
 
2007-07-08 03:44:35 PM  
FTFA:"If history has taught us anything, it has taught us to beware of elites bearing racial theories," Thomas wrote.

DAMN! HE's GOOD!

And Tony S. TOO! They farking ROCK!

(met Reinquiest once in a bookstore, he was wearing Burmuda shorts and a fishing hat; he left in the backseat of an old but well maintained Buick convertable coupe' being driven by friends.

This is a NO BS story. And he was nice as heck when I intro'd myself.
 
2007-07-08 05:11:29 PM  
fastbow: Nope. 14 years of private schools.

I was never within arms reach of the public schools...


wow.

i went to private schools all my life, but i didn't turn out arrogant.

and by the way, can you enlighten us as to your "one paragraph" summary of black history?
 
2007-07-08 05:15:45 PM  
Needlessly Complicated: and by the way, can you enlighten us as to your "one paragraph" summary of black history?

No. It's completely a joke and kind of mean, but people would take it the wrong way...

Ok, it's really mean...
 
2007-07-08 05:42:01 PM  
Mighty_Dog: Here's an idea for the libtards. What if the 'races' insured their own diversity by doing well enough to meet admission standards in the first place?

Mighty_Dog: fastbow, I'm not surprised. In most government schools, kids are either being taught that they're victims or (if they're white) that they're guilty.

We don't have 'Science Month'. We have Black History month.


The American government school system simply isn't going to produce enough graduates who are prepared to enter the hi-tech work force.

It's bad. But hey, maybe some government enforced 'diversity' will help! That, or we can just keep raising the minimum wage.


Thanks, liberals!


Such hate against this poster "Mighty_Dog"

Looks like his points were these:

1. Don't "non-whites" have a feeling at any time that they are being granted admission to this institution or that not because they are smart enough, worked hard enough, or can offer a meaningful contribution to said institution, but because they are "non-white"? I'm just an ignorant cracker here, but if someone told me I was only getting the admission, job, etc. because of the color of my skin and not my intelligence, work-ethic, content of my character, etc. I would be really offended.

2. Public school curricula does indeed tend to lean towards teaching young folks that they are guilty of racism or victims of racism. Is there a constructive purpose to this?

3. We don't have "Science Month" -- We have "Black History Month". We don't have "Feminist History Month," "European History Month," "Nordic History Month," "Small Business Owners Whom Employ the Majority of Americans Black, White or Otherwise Month" however. Why are we as a society not dedicating ourselves to our collective well-being instead of continually playing the race card?

4. Hi-Tech jobs are being lost everyday to the H1-B visa and to outsourcing in Bangalore. That's not a racist comment at all--it's fact folks. Why are we not focusing on encouraging young people, white, black, or other to learn hi-tech skills?

5. Pretending that raising the minimum wage will help those that work in minimum wage jobs is a joke. Especially when folks state that minimum wage jobs belong to non-whites and not raising the wage is racist. How about training those folks for higher-paying jobs instead? Do they want them? My first job was at Burger King at 15. It was minimum wage. After a wife and two kids, I don't want a minimum wage job and have worked very hard to make sure I'm qualified for jobs that pay a lot more than that.

Seems that rational discussion is an anomaly when it comes to issues of race. The name-calling is both revolting and juvenille. Just ask yourself before commenting on these things: "Is what I am proposing designed to help the less-fortunate move up in society, or will my ideas further the class-ism, racism, etc. that has permeated public discourse on the subject?" Answer honestly, after some deep thought, and you might surprise yourself.


/Queue the "You racist " comments now....
 
2007-07-08 08:06:19 PM  
Mighty Dog,

I've taught a diverse group of students at a large, well known and successful university. It was very often that the black students that came from disadvantaged backgrounds worked harder and put in more effort than their white counterparts. Both groups had equal potential, it's just that the kids that came from the suburbs had much better teachers and overall preparation, so they didn't need to strain themselves as much as the students from poor areas. The rich students also don't need to work outside of school as much as their poorer peers - I'm still amazed at how well my students did after I'd see them working at night in the dorm cafeterias or at restaurants.

I also had no trouble when my students were assigned to work in random groups. It didn't matter what race or background, they knew their job and they worked well together. When's the last time you saw a bling-ed out kid explain Calculus to someone (and do a great job, I might add)? Do you think that just because he came from a shiatty school that didn't have enough money for proper supplies and teachers, that he didn't deserve a chance to attend a good university, even though when given this chance he excelled?

You could learn a lot from seeing how much harder disadvantaged students work to succeed. It might just make you wonder about your own efforts.
 
2007-07-08 08:28:24 PM  
Is_What_It_Is:

1. Don't "non-whites" have a feeling at any time that they are being granted admission to this institution or that not because they are smart enough, worked hard enough, or can offer a meaningful contribution to said institution, but because they are "non-white"? I'm just an ignorant cracker here, but if someone told me I was only getting the admission, job, etc. because of the color of my skin and not my intelligence, work-ethic, content of my character, etc. I would be really offended.


From what I understand, it works like this: an admissions officer looks at the file of a kid from a poor ass school that would teach him next to nothing to get a decent score on the ACT/SAT, yet somehow the kid has awesome grades, an impressive personal statement, good ACT/SAT scores, and great letters of recommendation. Then the admissions officer picks up a file of a kid from a rich suburb that pays a lot of money to assure that they get really high ACT/SAT scores, makes the student work on his/her personal statement throughout the semester under the supervision of a good English teacher, and then some rather typical letters of recommendation.

The admissions officer now says: I'll take the first kid.


2. Public school curricula does indeed tend to lean towards teaching young folks that they are guilty of racism or victims of racism. Is there a constructive purpose to this?


I don't know much about K1-12, so I don't know if what you say is true, or to what degree it might be true. Perhaps you're confusing what is being taught with how it is being interpreted by kids. I've never seen this happen at the university level, so I'm curious for you to elaborate.


3. We don't have "Science Month" -- We have "Black History Month". We don't have "Feminist History Month," "European History Month," "Nordic History Month," "Small Business Owners Whom Employ the Majority of Americans Black, White or Otherwise Month" however. Why are we as a society not dedicating ourselves to our collective well-being instead of continually playing the race card?


Because you don't need to have "European History Month." Majority of the people in the country trace their ancestry to Europe, and the fact that they're white has rarely caused them trouble. On the other hand, being black, and that alone, has gotten some folks in quite the predicaments. So, this isn't playing the race card as much as trying to get the word out to people who still seem stuck in the 17th century about the whole race thing. Especially those people that view certain groups as 'uncultured' and 'never having done anything good.'


4. Hi-Tech jobs are being lost everyday to the H1-B visa and to outsourcing in Bangalore. That's not a racist comment at all--it's fact folks. Why are we not focusing on encouraging young people, white, black, or other to learn hi-tech skills?


Have you not heard all the commercials for quick tech schools offering certification? Except that once you do get certified, try getting a job at a company that needs to pay you benefits and a salary for doing tech support....oh wait, that's right, those companies would rather export the jobs overseas where it's cheap.
But let's not let the government intervene and make laws about this...because having your PC cost go up a bit might just crash the whole economy. So yeah, there's plenty of people capable of doing that work, except that companies aren't hiring here :)


5. Pretending that raising the minimum wage will help those that work in minimum wage jobs is a joke. Especially when folks state that minimum wage jobs belong to non-whites and not raising the wage is racist. How about training those folks for higher-paying jobs instead? Do they want them? My first job was at Burger King at 15. It was minimum wage. After a wife and two kids, I don't want a minimum wage job and have worked very hard to make sure I'm qualified for jobs that pay a lot more than that.


It's kind of like this: you throw people neck high in shiat, then you pull them up a bit, but you add more shiat. Now keep doing that. Few will get out, but poverty tends to get worse, not because people aren't motivated, but because they don't know any better. That's why diversity is important for kids to experience.


Seems that rational discussion is an anomaly when it comes to issues of race. The name-calling is both revolting and juvenille. Just ask yourself before commenting on these things: "Is what I am proposing designed to help the less-fortunate move up in society, or will my ideas further the class-ism, racism, etc. that has permeated public discourse on the subject?" Answer honestly, after some deep thought, and you might surprise yourself.


Hmm, to see capable black students succeed, allowing them to get good paying jobs and show their younger siblings and friends that it is indeed possible to get out of the ghetto? Yeah, sounds like a good idea.
 
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