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2007-07-07 04:03:05 PM
Felgraf:

... I imagine there are, in fact, ones that don't talk about how they're a furry all the time. Just like there are Christians that don't walk around shouting out about how they're Chrsitians and holier than thou, and such, and, as a result, you don't actually know that they're a christian.. they're just someone walking past you on the street.



...And thier actions influence the public perception of the Christian faith in exactly the same way that annoying furry behaviour influences the public perception of Furries.
 
2007-07-07 04:15:49 PM
Comparing furries to christians is totally harsh on the furries, man.
 
2007-07-07 04:17:08 PM
beoswulf:

I'd Yiff It
 
2007-07-07 04:22:20 PM
Felgraf

I wasn't saying that all furries are such attention whores about it, I was just venting my frustrations about those who do, and commenting on how far more furries tend to act that way as opposed to about any other fetish community. These conventions are kind of part of that, you don't exactly see dozens of foot fetish cons around the country or anything.

I'm not saying they necessarily should be ashamed and hide it or whatever (though I do find it really, really funny), but its not like anyone else gives a crap that you get off in some way by wearing a fursuit.
 
2007-07-07 04:26:04 PM
MusicMakeMyHeadPound: On the other hand, I could be wrong. It could be a fascinating anthropological study. A strange but entertaining cross section of a semi-hidden American subculture.


It's being done. There's a whole frakking academic clique associated with "Media Studies" or the "Pop Culture Association". They throw around terms like "hetero-normative", "white privilege", "male privilege", "rereading the text", etc.

Thanks to them I may never go to another science fiction convention again. They make what I considered an innocent and fun diversion into a subculture where a bunch of militant feminists (or bored housewives) get together to write pseudo-gay porn to expose the horribly oppressive white, male, heterosexual, dominant culture.

My opinion of university liberal arts programs tanked after discovering they got paid to do these "pop culture" studies.
 
2007-07-07 04:36:23 PM
Come on, act of terrorism!
 
2007-07-07 04:40:52 PM
Curiousity led me to this.

This kind of made my skin crawl. Not because they're dressed up in animal costumes (you know they look a lot better in the suits than in real life anyway), but because none of these people can dance worth a shiat.

/veteren of the california rave scene
//has seen stranger things
///from people who have rhythm
 
2007-07-07 04:44:00 PM
Lt_Athena: Thanks to them I may never go to another science fiction convention again. They make what I considered an innocent and fun diversion into a subculture where a bunch of militant feminists (or bored housewives) get together to write pseudo-gay porn to expose the horribly oppressive white, male, heterosexual, dominant culture.

I had a coworker once who showed me some of her collection of Harry Potter and Star Trek slash stories. Amazing material. I couldn't look at her the same way again. Or for that matter Spock and Dr. McCoy.

The point being that I completely fail to see your outrage here. Except that I disagree that the psuedo-gay porn exposes anything other than the fact that some women get the hots over two dudes making out.


My opinion of university liberal arts programs tanked after discovering they got paid to do these "pop culture" studies.

Yes. You're absolutely right. If there's one thing we can't be having, it's study of the world we live in. Shameful.
 
2007-07-07 04:45:59 PM
 
2007-07-07 04:49:03 PM
is there any point in protesting furries? its not like its going to make ppl perceive them as any more or less weird.
 
2007-07-07 05:04:22 PM
Cheri Pi: In the nerd hierarchy, furries are the lowest of the low. Even otaku make fun of furries, and furries get 90% of their inspiration from anime.

Just because you make fun of something doesn't mean you are also better. I went to a few Sci Fi conventions that catered to otakus. Never again. Spoiled, snotty, racist, cleptos.

I don't need someone to tell me that my Japanese relatives are better than me because I'm mostly white, I have Thanksgiving for that.
 
2007-07-07 05:32:35 PM
In defense...

I work with a furry and he happens to be one of the most tolerable people in my office. He actually has a sense of humor and picks up the occasional book once in a while....which is more than I can say for most of the population.

I would work with 10 of him in full horse-regalia, including saddle and hooves, then one of any of our vapid dayshift girls.

If nothing else, I can always count on being entertained when our shifts overlap.

He is also a farker...and is probably getting a kick out of your replies.

/Nightshift
 
2007-07-07 05:42:15 PM
Valacirca

My bad, I misread you. Yes, the once who constantly shout what they are (Christian, or furry, or whatever) are really annoying. I think I might disagree that the cons are necessarily shouting "I'm a furry", though.. I mean, it's not like they're forcing people not into it to go there.
 
2007-07-07 06:22:27 PM
Oh No Melon: However, i do reserve the right to think you're a screaming weirdo if you tell me that you like to poke your wang in a teddy bear or try to convince me that you're a 'spiritual wombat'.

This is why I read fark threads.
 
2007-07-07 06:25:49 PM
MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Kitsunobi: "No, silly human. Only the foolish pinkskins drink the fire water."


if there's anything I know about geeks who go to cons... they drink heavily.
 
2007-07-07 06:27:21 PM
jonny_q: Oh No Melon: However, i do reserve the right to think you're a screaming weirdo if you tell me that you like to poke your wang in a teddy bear or try to convince me that you're a 'spiritual wombat'.

This is why I read fark threads.


Me too, Jonny_q. Me too.
 
2007-07-07 06:39:02 PM
Oh No Melon: Like any subculture there are the people who are in it for sick reasons just like there are folks on the opposite side who think it's great fun to put on kitty ears and a tail for a weekend and get shiatfaced. I have no problems with either of the extremes or anyone in between. What i do have a problem with is *anyone* who has a persecution complex. That goes everyone else, as well as furries.

I went to look for a pic of Ghastly's "Bunny Boy" but stopped after the third page. Don't do it, it's not worth it!
 
2007-07-07 07:02:26 PM
I once rented a gorilla costume for Halloween. It was pretty cool being able to do whatever the fark I wanted and no one knew who I was. And scantily clad Halloween chicks LOVE hugging and rubbing their various parts against the gorilla man. (Unfortunately, so do most flaming homosexuals, but oh well...) It was a lot of fun, though hotter than the hinges of hell in that thing.

So, I can kind of see why some of them like it, though to do it as some sort of lifestyle is a bit freaky. No worse than many of the "Trekkies" I've known, however.
 
2007-07-07 07:08:05 PM
My wife has dressed up as an Animal, but not for kinkytime.
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(Tho we have been molested by Furries in that context...)

I know a couple of published cartoonists who, while FurryCons give them the heebedy-jeebies, are still happy to attend because the Furries drop lots of $$ for their original art.
 
2007-07-07 07:28:12 PM
i110.photobucket.com
 
2007-07-07 07:33:57 PM
img400.imageshack.us
Shot at 2007-07-07
 
2007-07-07 07:39:15 PM
NO YOU CANT HAS YIFF

/not even with Rosie O'donells stolen dick.
 
2007-07-07 08:15:55 PM
Everyone has their kink. Who am I to say it's weird if you enjoy it and it ain't hurting me?
 
2007-07-07 08:23:03 PM
man, it's gonna take more than eye bleach to fix that.

/beos' stuff helped
 
2007-07-07 08:28:58 PM
Meh. It doesn't seem any worse than any other comic book/sf/anime convention. something tells me the only ones really biatching about it in this thread are 4chan /b/tards.

/and a lot of people go to comic book/sf/anime/gaming conventions just for the sex, too.
 
2007-07-07 08:42:55 PM
I seriously wonder about the people who hate furries so much. I'm not a furry, but I just can't understand the hatred. They aren't hurting anybody, who the hell cares if they like to dress up like animals, and who the hell cares what the do with each other as consenting adult while dressed as animal. If you're not a furry, than the things furries do don't concern you, it has no impact on your quality of life. Just leave them alone.
 
2007-07-07 08:48:13 PM
yiff yiff yiff
 
2007-07-07 08:50:12 PM
i135.photobucket.com
 
2007-07-07 08:57:04 PM
Pribar

Okay, thatn chart confirms there are /b/tards overrunning the thread.

That being said, post the chart with Chester Cheetah! Much superior lulz.
 
2007-07-07 08:59:24 PM
MusicMakeMyHeadPound:
Yes. You're absolutely right. If there's one thing we can't be having, it's study of the world we live in. Shameful.

You haven't read the pretentious crap they write, have you? I admit because they hide behind big words and jargon it's a tough read, but I got one of them Master's Degrees so I know their tricks.

I'm all for studying the world and making reasonable observations. I do have a problem with people who are immersed in their own little subculture (academia) and try to make me feel guilty about being the wrong race or whatever. I also have a problem that since these academics have a certain amount of "authority" (their term), what they write will be taken as "the truth" by the overall culture.

I bet Farkers wouldn't like someone writing dissertations about Fark posters being a subculture of privileged cognitariats whose take on news articles are a shallow justification to make "boobies" and "weener" jokes, to post pictures of hot women, to ridicule ordinary or ugly women, and to cast disdain on those less fortunate then they are only because an accident of the being born into the wrong class or race. Goodness knows what evils goes on in Total Fark.

As for the slash, I don't have a problem with that but it was revealing from comments made by female authors that writing slash was their way of fantasizing they were making out with the hot man of their fantasy but thinking they had evaded the stigma of doing a "Mary Sue" story or were uncomfortable doing a heterosexual fantasy porn story for fear it would reveal too much of their own sexual practices.
 
2007-07-07 09:28:01 PM
This thread needs less complaining and more pictures of hot Japanese chicks in cat costumes.



//not a furry
 
2007-07-07 09:55:44 PM
blog.livedoor.jp
 
2007-07-07 10:42:53 PM
Help-Im-Sober: I don't think that was what McNip had in mind, actually.
 
2007-07-07 10:50:51 PM
4chan trifecta in play?
 
2007-07-07 11:03:31 PM
Why does everyone hate on furries? I, personally, am not into that, but I really don't care if someone wants to dress up as a fox and cavort around in a suit. It's not hurting anyone, the person gets a kick out of it, so why all the hate?
 
2007-07-08 02:08:49 AM
Entity79: Agreed. I don't dig it - but hey, if it's their kicks, good for them. Better then the represed idiots that complain about them ::cough::somethingawful::cough::
 
2007-07-08 02:36:50 AM
Entity79: Why does everyone hate on furries?

You make fun of a BDSM fanatic, and they don't really do anything. Likewise with your average RP-nerd, or your typical sci-fi geek, or most general Internet social groups - there's no real response, and so no entertainment value. So most people don't try. You make fun of a furry, however, and they respond in strange and hilarious ways. Much like emo-kids, single-issue political activists, Scientologists, and other subcultures with a persecution complex, their indignant defenses are funny to read and the "true faithful" can easily be led into making absolutely gut-busting leaps of logic in an attempt to provide some sort of rebuttal to even minor prodding.

That sort of thing attracts people who enjoy schadenfreude - the finding of pleasure in the misery and misfortune of others - because the furries provide it in spades. Like any form of social ostracism, the responses provided by those so ostracized will perpetuate and can even expand the "problem" as others dogpile on to join in the entertainment. It's kinda sad that those sorts of social groups don't recognize that the simplest way to avoid this sort of thing is to make it less fun for the people seeking it out. People who respond to taunts with a shrug don't get taunted as much as those who throw a tantrum.
 
2007-07-08 04:43:21 AM
OMG ban Wind in the Willows! Protect the childrens!

Nothing wrong with anthropomorphic characters, they've been around since the dawn of time. As for the porn bit, no shock there either, us humans have a astonishing knack for sticking sex into everything (huh-huh-huh, "sticking into").

/yeah, I know, kids don't read books anymore anyway.
 
2007-07-08 10:46:32 AM
Lt_Athena: You haven't read the pretentious crap they write, have you? I admit because they hide behind big words and jargon it's a tough read, but I got one of them Master's Degrees so I know their tricks.

Sometimes I come across essays on the internet. I don't exactly go looking for them. Like most essays, 80% are bullshiat and only 20% are interesting.

I'm all for studying the world and making reasonable observations. I do have a problem with people who are immersed in their own little subculture (academia) and try to make me feel guilty about being the wrong race or whatever.

Now you're just being angsty.

I also have a problem that since these academics have a certain amount of "authority" (their term), what they write will be taken as "the truth" by the overall culture.

These same academics encourage (or should encourage) looking at work with a critical eye. If the pretentiousness really bothers you, consider that perhaps they use the word authority to compensate for their own lack of relevance outside of their social circle.

I bet Farkers wouldn't like someone writing dissertations about Fark posters being a subculture of privileged cognitariats whose take on news articles are a shallow justification to make "boobies" and "weener" jokes, to post pictures of hot women, to ridicule ordinary or ugly women, and to cast disdain on those less fortunate then they are only because an accident of the being born into the wrong class or race. Goodness knows what evils goes on in Total Fark.

It's been done and I found it amusing. We're a great big teaming mass of smartasses, collectively we're barely more intelligent than YouTubers. I'd be an idiot to be offended by that.

As for the slash, I don't have a problem with that but it was revealing from comments made by female authors that writing slash was their way of fantasizing they were making out with the hot man of their fantasy but thinking they had evaded the stigma of doing a "Mary Sue" story or were uncomfortable doing a heterosexual fantasy porn story for fear it would reveal too much of their own sexual practices.

No kidding. It's a sexual version of psychological projection. It's the same reason why many men fantasize about two lesbians having sex.
 
2007-07-08 07:20:19 PM
That explains that strange sight on the way to primanti brothers yesterday.
 
2007-07-08 08:46:07 PM
I don't have to much of a problem with furries, my problem is those who are so out there that the get into "character" all weekend. Not their own character mind you, but a carbon copy of one on screen.
Part of it I know is that I could never "let myself go" but another part is that they seem to put regular fans in the background, making them the "face"
Last ST convention-Pasadena 25th ('88?) there were a couple of 16/17 year olds in uniform calling each other "Kirk and Spock".
When there was a Q&A with Shatner "Kirk"-Full Uni- got up and said "being an actor/director myself..." which lead to moans by others there.
 
2007-07-08 11:25:48 PM
dziban: Curiousity led me to this.
For some reason i get the strange urge to lock the doors of that places and set loose some real, half-starved lionesses in there.

halfmoth: My wife has dressed up as an Animal, but not for kinkytime.
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(Tho we have been molested by Furries in that context...)


I looked at the one without the head on first and thought your wife might be a real weirdo, after seeing the the second one, I wish I had that costume.

/him, oscar, and cookie monster have been my favorites since i was little.
 
2007-07-11 05:02:07 AM
MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Kitsunobi: "No, silly human. Only the foolish pinkskins drink the fire water."

Are you kidding? About three quarters of the furries I know are bartenders. I don't drink, but I seem to be the exception..

The two /b/-tards were most amusing. Especially when the con chair went out to go picket with them. They were looking pretty lonely after all, especially when the hotel staff threw them off the property.

/Furry
//Doesn't particularly care about your opinion. I had a damn good time.
 
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