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2002-09-05 04:11:01 AM  
OMG! IM NUMBER ONE! Wooooo! YEa im delerious we just played a show tonight
2002-09-05 04:14:43 AM  
Okay, anyone other than me wondering what kind of penalties would be pushed upon a company for not getting the goverments permission to launch a moon mission?
2002-09-05 04:16:17 AM  
Interesting, but why do you need government approval to go to the moon?
2002-09-05 04:17:00 AM  
About damn time. Back in the day I had these Charlie Brown's Cyclopedia books, which came out sometime in the 60's, and one of the books was about space and it said something along the lines of "By the time you grow up, you and your parents could be living in a colony on the moon." All serious like, too. It's safe to say they overestimated the prevelance of space travel in the future.
2002-09-05 04:17:32 AM  
isn't there some sort of regulation for airspace, and also one for using rocket propelled vehicles?
2002-09-05 04:18:29 AM  
Hey, if they could hoax the moon landings, don't you think that they can hoax this too?
2002-09-05 04:19:14 AM  
The regulations are on guided missles.
2002-09-05 04:20:10 AM  
Lance Bass still not going into space.
Is there a sign up sheet for trips to the moon? Are there shots I need to get first? Is my passport valid or do I need an all inclusive Earth passport... or is all that unnecessary since the moon, in relation to the Earth is sort of like, Puerto Rico to the U.S.A.
2002-09-05 04:20:43 AM  
I can hardly wait to see the Nike swoosh logo from my backyard every full moon.
2002-09-05 04:20:44 AM  
Gah. Muchly conflicted about commercial space ventures.

It seems, on the positive side, as if there's a good chance that they might actually be able to get it done, which is a fair sight more than I can say for the U.S. government...though the EU seems to be making more of a push into space lately.

On the other hand, do we really want space dominated by commercial interests? If the future of humanity actually lies in space, it would be rather a chilling future being run by corporations. As always, trashy movies are the best way to make a point: think of Total Recall. Huge semi-criminal underclass, have to pay for your air, and giant Martian pyramids that can produce an atmosphere in a matter of seconds.

Bah. Stupid government. Take a few out of the hundreds of billions that the military is getting, and put it into space! Then I won't have to support MicroSprintPizza Bell doing it!
2002-09-05 04:32:37 AM  
For one thing, I'm pretty sure you need a permit to launch anything above a certain altitude.
2002-09-05 04:44:01 AM  
The U.S. Government has just licensed the first commercial mission to the moon.

I see; so now the US government is not only the self elected world police but they have generously decided to allow themselves to control outer space?
2002-09-05 04:55:06 AM  
Umm...the US government probably had to license it because the launch was happening on US soil, asshats.
2002-09-05 04:59:05 AM  
Cormee-If Russia or China or Japan or the European Union or even the Pygmies in Africa want to license, finance and make rocket launches from their lands, I'm sure they can.

Anyhow, this actually might be an area where the UN could be useful. Set guidelines on rockets and payload that the whole world agrees to, then use that as a model for future development.
2002-09-05 05:01:08 AM  
Since America was the first country to the moon AND planted the american flag there, don't we OWN the moon?
2002-09-05 05:06:26 AM  
09-05-02 04:55:06 AM Joshua
Umm...the US government probably had to license it because the launch was happening on US soil, asshats.

Are you sure you read that right?
2002-09-05 05:06:44 AM  
Trailblazer is expected to launch from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan within the next nine to 12 months.

Joshua:What state is this in again? Make sure you have the slightest idea as to what you are talking about before making an ass of yourself asshat.
2002-09-05 05:08:56 AM  
I think the moon is like Antarctica, no one can claim sole ownership of it. This might change if there are lots of minerals on the moon, though, I'd bet.
2002-09-05 05:09:59 AM  
~Trailblazer is expected to launch from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan within the next nine to 12 months.~

Mmmm hmmmm, U.S. soil, righhhtttt. ;)
2002-09-05 05:13:35 AM  
Now all we need is a Giant Anti-aircraft gun on the moon to protect it from intruders....
2002-09-05 05:14:17 AM  
Joshua: read the article before commenting on it next time - it might save you making a fool of yourself:

Trailblazer is expected to launch from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan within the next nine to 12 months.

and just in case you still don't get it - Kazakhstan is NOT an american state joshua..... asshat.
2002-09-05 05:18:52 AM  
Cookie for Joshua (exception, not because he is a troll, but because I feel pity for his stupidity).
2002-09-05 05:20:41 AM  
Kthulhu: same as above (but without the insults!!) theres no mention of the US government financing it - in fact it says it is a commercial mission which suggests its a private venture and the launch is from Kazakstan.

However the whole Russia,Chinese, Japanese, Europeann & Pygmy venture sounds like a lot of fun - where do I sign up!
2002-09-05 05:21:18 AM  
go here to see what it takes to get a license for a rocket launch: from Rocket guys web page.
2002-09-05 05:24:37 AM  
He said "verify" because there are still a few people out there who believe the Apollo program was a hoax.

Well it will be good to finally get some closure on THAT issue, one way or the other. Although, I suppose if the hoax theory is disproved, the conspiracy theorists will probably still say the latest mission is part of the conspiracy *ho-hum*.

The last part of Trailblazer's mission will be to crash land on the lunar surface, taking "barnstorming" videos the whole way down.

Now THAT will just be REALLY cool.
2002-09-05 05:26:01 AM  
I'm sure the government wants to know if US citizens are launching rockets which are capable of going to the moon(and potenially carrying a nuclear payload to the US). So, this would be one reason for licensing.
Also, this mission will most likely require the use of Nasa's Deep Space Network for tracking and control of the spacecraft, since it's the best space communications system in existance. I'm sure the government charges a hefty fee for using a system that's already over-taxed by the current missions that Nasa is flying.So, don't just read the article next time...THINK about it....

Asshats... :)
2002-09-05 05:28:58 AM  
Doh! For rocket launch data
2002-09-05 05:30:02 AM  
ok back to html refresher course for me.
2002-09-05 05:39:48 AM  
Ok, the gist of what I am trying to say is that it's the FAA that licenses the launching of space vehicles within US air space. I imagine that is because they know where all the jets are and wouldn't want your expendable launch vehicle to be picked up by NORAD and tracked to your launch pad. Shortly thereafter one of their(NORAD) rockets would be visiting you and create quite a commotion in the neighborhood.
2002-09-05 05:45:22 AM  
also, it is probably an american company, so no matter where they do their buisness, they still have to abide by american laws. also, the US does not own the moon, unfortunetly, because of a stupid treaty signed declaring the moon the property of all. eh, we got there first, we should keep it. and build a giant "laser"
2002-09-05 06:13:49 AM  
Oh great...they're going to crash the dam thing into the moon at the end. Watch them bust the moon all up into pieces which will come showering down in chunks as they fall out of orbit and cause the destruction of man-kind into 2 distinct species....somehow.
2002-09-05 06:15:49 AM  
Gator Ad network to be installed on the moons serface next week. it will display constant ads on the moon as well as snoop down on you from above. FEAR!
2002-09-05 06:54:26 AM  
What they aren't telling us is that the company is Evil Enterprises and this is the first step in Dr Evil's plan to place a giant frickin "laaaserrr" on the moon!

Oh yeah, hey joshua, you might wanna think about reading the article before calling us all asshats, asshat.
2002-09-05 07:02:47 AM  
lets all get joshua!
2002-09-05 07:11:37 AM  
It says right here in the bible (believe me, you have te really read between the lines, but it's in there) that the moon belongs only to Americans, any that any moon men had just better get the fark off OUR moon!
2002-09-05 07:43:11 AM  
If the moon landing is a hoax, then maybe the moon is a hoax too, it could be a giant tarp with a lightbulb behind it. Hell our lives could be a hoax and this is the matrix. OMG!

But thats stupid...
something for Kevin Nealon to deal with
2002-09-05 07:51:12 AM  
Just uncovered: Secret memo to Lance Bass.

Dear Lance,
We are sorry to hear that you were too cheap to pay the Russians. However, we would like to offer you a discounted
"economy class" seat on our moon probe for $1000. We heavily urge you to take us up on this offer as it will be mutually beneficial to you (you get to take you little space trip) and the rest of us (you won't be coming back).
We'll be looking for your check.
2002-09-05 07:54:50 AM  
Anybody remember "Salvage One"? The short-lived show where Andy Griffith was a junk man who went to the moon to salvage the left-behind parts for resale.

Now that was a great show.
2002-09-05 08:01:47 AM  
Regarding why the US Government has say in this: The only thing I can think of is export laws, since they would have to export a lot of high technology stuff, which is highly regulated. That's my guess.
2002-09-05 08:04:29 AM  
i remember that VD least i think i do... they used to launch from the stockyard? (WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF THE US GOVT. I MIGHT ADD)
2002-09-05 08:22:32 AM  
What exactly are they planning on getting from this "commercial" mission?
2002-09-05 08:36:13 AM  
Sprediletto Yes, there are many conspiracy theorists that believe the whole moon landing was a hoax and it was filmed on a sound stage.
2002-09-05 09:03:39 AM  
"We're also looking to verify Apollo and other landing sites," said TransOrbital President Dennis Laurie.
The problem is that the conspiracists will not and cannot be convinced by this. The only possible way would be to ship them up there, one by one, and even then they would come up with an explaination including CG, alien gravity-simulating technologies and space monkeys. That's right, space monkeys are what really allowed the U.S. to convince the rest of the world that there was a "landing" on the "moon". Flat-Earthers rule the world of wackos!
2002-09-05 09:22:37 AM  
Sprediletto: Unfortunately, there are a large number of people who think the Apollo missions were a hoax. The situation is getting worse, not better, despite the fact that every single argument made by the conspiracy "theorists" has been either disproven on the facts (such as the fact that all of the pictures taken on the moon fail to show stars in the sky -- which is what any photographer would expect, given that the camera exposure was set for the foreground which was in BROAD DAYLIGHT) or shown to be irrelevant on its merits (like the claim that NASA airbrushed crosshairs into the photographs after they were taken -- they didn't, as examination of the images demonstrates, but even if they did how does that "prove" we didn't go to the moon?). The recent (two years ago?) airing of a one-hour special by FOX on the moon hoax certainly contributed to the idiocy; it was exceptionally biased, voicing arguments that had already been discounted, but failing to mention the counter-arguments. Ultimately, though, the reason more people seem to believe it was a hoax is because they get their concepts of reality by eavesdropping on conversations while they're drunk in bars, instead of actually bothering to do any research on the subject.

I'll stop now. I used to think that people who believed in the moon-hoax, non-human origins of crop-circles and the pyramids, or the psychic hotline just needed some education. I no longer believe that. Now I just want them shot.
2002-09-05 09:46:16 AM  
I heard there's a lot of sex going on on the moon.
2002-09-05 09:51:06 AM  
Man, you can find a fansite for anything.

Salvage One

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Like this site says, the show died probably because what do you do after you go to the moon in the pilot.

The only other memorable episode was the one where they put the rocket engines on an iceberg to move it to California.
2002-09-05 10:07:32 AM  
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2002-09-05 10:13:56 AM  
Rahree Yes, lots of GAY sex, which is the reason it will be shut down soon.
2002-09-05 10:27:56 AM  
so if they claim the man to moon was a hoax, i'm sure they can use a powerful telescope to check out the moon to see if there's an american flag.
2002-09-05 12:06:59 PM  
I believe the whole concept of outerspace was contrived by
the establishment (still led jointly by the free masons and
the vatican).
Think about it - when you take a physics course, they start
by talking about the planets and their motion as if this is so simple that it's a good place to start. Why? Because
they made all that stuff up and like all good lyers, they
keep their stories simple to avoid being tripped up later by
tricky questions.
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