Not surprising

but also had messages calling President Bush a lying drunk driver who abused cocaine and marijuana, and the "chicken-hawk-in-chief" who was engaged in a "world domination tour."

Can't he still be tried for Treason, what with revealing State secrets and all ?

The title completely misrepresents the article, so naturally it gets greenlighted. I really wish they'd stop greenlighting freeperbait.

submitter: Supreme Court allows student's anti-Bush t-shirt, says no school censoring allowed.

So, an anti-Bush teeshirt is OK, but not "Bong Hits 4 Jesus"?

Go Go Chinchilla!

The issue really has nothing to do with Bush. This shirt was simply relating the information that Bush used cocaine, not promoting it's use. The "bong hits 4 Jesus" shirt was promoting an illegal drug. I don't agree with it, but it's consistent. Subby is just going out of his way to throw "liberals" and "Bush" in the headline and apparently the modmins don't have a problem with greenlighting obvious freeperbait that has nothing to do with the article as long as it drives up views.

So he could also wear a shirt with a martini glass, a car driving off the bridge and Kennedy trying to drown someone?

I'm going to get that one for my brother to see if he gets away with it.

At least they didn't do something stupid like overturn Brown v. Board of education.

Wait, what?

How about a banner that says, "Bush takes bong hits for Jesus"? Political enough to pass muster?

District attorney FlashV wants to prosecute a Kennedy lawl.

A 7th grader with a political message. How cute.

They are giving that one up to the Dem's so they can score one for the team when they need to make a ruling on Cheney's official branch status.

MUGATO

No offense to your "age."

But old would be "I'm the Beaver...who the heck is Wally"

Simpson's references on t-shirts...does not exactly make one a codger yet.

RodneyToady

The Secret Service goes after anyone wearing a "kill Bush" t-shirt?

Riiight. That explains why every college campus in America is under lockdown.

/"My heroes have always killed cowboys," "two for one assassination special," etc.

Clothing that have political statements are ok. Clothing that helps associate and identify to gang activity, unruly behavior, profanity and idealogies that are counterproductive to being educated is not.

Solution:
Apply school uniform. Make all the hot girls wear skirts, at the fat ones wear men's slacks. It will secure their future of becoming lesbians therefore exterminating the continuance of their genetics within 1 generation.

//Me and my tangents.

Maybe it is a principled court.

FlashLV 2007-06-29 06:05:48 PM
So he could also wear a shirt with a martini glass, a car driving off the bridge and Kennedy trying to drown someone?

Hmm... on one hand martinis aren't illegal. On the other hand DWI is. Still, it's too grey an area and not attention whorish enough for your experiment.

I'd think you might want to try "Clinton Bong Hits 4 Jesus"

MusicMakeMyHeadPound
Hmm... on one hand martinis aren't illegal. On the other hand DWI is. Still, it's too grey an area and not attention whorish enough for your experiment.

Hmm. That's harsher than I meant. "Attention grabbing" is more what I was going for.

Ah, so an anti-bush t-shirt gets a free pass while patriotic t-shirts or t-shirts with bible verses are "offensive" and must censored.

I guess free speech is ok as long as your liberal.

Saying that speech "encouraging illegal activity" is unprotected seems a bit.... retarded.

75% of all protests are in support of illegal activity.

/Pull statistics out ass... apply to fark

Alien Syndrome

Jesus was a liberal.

Alien Syndrome
Ah, so an anti-bush t-shirt gets a free pass while patriotic t-shirts or t-shirts with bible verses are "offensive" and must censored.

I guess free speech is ok as long as your liberal.

Another interesting theory. Perhaps the mistake was the biblical reference, you're saying? "Bong Hits 4 Buddha" would have been acceptable perhaps?

RodneyToady
As long as my liberal? How long is my liberal?

Nobody likes a tease.

Alien Syndrome: Ah, so an anti-bush t-shirt gets a free pass while patriotic t-shirts or t-shirts with bible verses are "offensive" and must censored.

What court case are you referencing? I vaguely remember a case wherein a child was wearing a shirt that quoted the bible and advocated certain people have rocks thrown at them, which was rightfully censored as it advocated violence towards other students.

As long as my liberal? How long is my liberal?


I heard black dudes have long liberals. Are you black?

"So he could also wear a shirt with a martini glass, a car driving off the bridge and Kennedy trying to drown someone?

I'm going to get that one for my brother to see if he gets away with it."

Why do you want your brother to get the shiat kicked out of him?

Like I said in a previous post this make no sense:


On Monday, the court said schools could regulate student expression if it advocated illegal drug use. Justice Samuel Alito cautioned that schools could not censor political speech.


Either schools should be able to censor students or not.

The idea that it depends on what the students say is stupid.


So some speech is free speech and some is not and the supreme court decides on what is and isn't?

This seems to be the anti-thesis of what the first amendment stands for.

It should either apply or not. Not apply to some. If the supreme court said "schools could dictate all speech in a school" I would be fine with that. But to say "well for speech we find important" is just letting the supreme court get to decide what to censor.

It seems they have been making rulings on what they feel is right and wrong instead of on precedent and the law.

UltimateLazyPerson

Jesus was a liberal.

If you or any other liberals out there have any proof to support this over used cliché I would love to here it (quote Bible versus).

MusicMakeMyHeadPound

Make light of it all you want, but it's this double-standard that is ruining the education system. Whether it's banning prayer or banning bible verses, the politically correct are taking over the schools in order to promote their own brand of "tolerance".

ProdigalSigh

What court case are you referencing? I vaguely remember a case wherein a child was wearing a shirt that quoted the bible and advocated certain people have rocks thrown at them, which was rightfully censored as it advocated violence towards other students.

Don't make stuff up to support your argument, it doesn't help your credibility at all. The child did not advocate violence but only stated his opinion about homosexuality, namely that it was an "abomination". Now I'm sure that you completely disagree with that statement, but it was his right to say it, or do you want to censor that as well. But maybe it would help his case with you if he promoted dangerous drug use.

From what I gathered was The Supreme Court didn't take "Bong hits for Jesus" as political speech. If he wore a shirt saying "legalize it", which actively protests the law then the ruling would have probably been different.

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: I'd think you might want to try "Clinton Bong Hits Blow Jobs 4 Jesus"

I think that slogan would sell better :)

You heretics just don't get it. If God wanted us to be whining, naked atheists, we would have been born that way!

Oh wait.

Alien Syndrome: Don't make stuff up to support your argument, it doesn't help your credibility at all.

I didn't make stuff up, I asked you to provide a case and listed something I "vaguely remember," that might apply. The burden of proof lies with you to demonstrate the case and any double standard. As El_Perro points out, the case I mentioned is not applicable as it never made it through the courts.

As to credibility, now you say his shirt: only stated his opinion about homosexuality, namely that it was an abomination".

Which is it? The shirt only had a Bible verse or it only stated his opinion?


If you or any other liberals out there have any proof to support this over used cliché I would love to here it (quote Bible versus).

Why don't you prove that he was conservative? Or, why don't you give me a definition of Liberal and then I'll tell you if Jesus applies?

http://www.jesusisaliberal.org/

Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. [Matthew 5:9]

Resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. [Matthew 5:39]

I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despite-fully use you, and persecute
you; [Matthew 5:44]

If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to cast a stone at her. [John 8:7]

Do not judge, lest you too be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. [Matthew 7:1 & 2.]

Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. [Matthew 5:6]

Blessed are the
merciful: for they shall obtain mercy [Matthew 5:7]

But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your
trespasses. [Matthew 6:15]

In the temple courts [Jesus] found men selling cattle, sheep and doves and other
sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle;
he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. [John 2:14 & 15.]

Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions. [Luke 12.15.]

Truly, I say unto you, it will be hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.

[Matthew 19:23] You cannot serve both God and Money. [Matthew 6:24.]

Love your neighbor as yourself. .[Matthew 22:39]

So in everything, do to others as you would have them do to you.
[Matthew 7:12.]

If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.
[Matthew 19:21]

But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed,
because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just. [Luke 14:13 &14.]

And when thou pray, thou shall not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in
the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
But thou, when thou pray, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret...
[Matthew 6:6 & 7]

If any of you has a son or a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take
hold of it and lift it out? [Matthew 12:11]

The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. [Mark 2:27.]

The fact that this made it to the Supreme Court is disgusting.

ProdigalSigh

Bravo, sir. Bravo. I am pretty sure that you were trolled, but the response was excellent.

And now queue an attempt to troll me...

Ceph: The fact that this made it to the Supreme Court is disgusting

Why is it disgusting? One side or the other appealed until it reached the Supreme Court. That's how it works.

Corvus
It seems they have been making rulings on what they feel is right and wrong instead of on precedent and the law.



In other news, I think from now on I'm going to communicate entirely in cliché.

Running a-puck: I am pretty sure that you were trolled

Thanks, I know, but in my experience the best way to make them go away is to calmly take apart their arguments without getting mad or switching to attack mode. Besides, makes for excellent "argument" practice.

Alien Syndrome
Make light of it all you want

I was actually giving you the benefit of the doubt. Your suggestion of persecution is ridiculous without any comment needed whatsoever from me. Harsh, but true.

but it's this double-standard that is ruining the education system. Whether it's banning prayer or banning bible verses, the politically correct are taking over the schools in order to promote their own brand of "tolerance".

There are many things ruining our education system: lack of funding, gross expansion of en loco parentis, idiotic administrative policies, hot slutty teachers devirginizing our sons...

I mean, honestly, it's hard enough for high school seniors to spell correctly and do simple math like percentages and you're getting all worked up hyperbolizing the forbidding of government employees to mandate prayer as a ban on everyone from practicing religion.

Do you ever stop to think, "Hmm... it's a rough road ahead for my country and my children, perhaps I should choose my battles more wisely"?

It's getting to the point where religious discussions aren't worth the time. When one entire side of an argument falls to a single, pathetic troll, there is no real debate.
There are not "two sides" to this story.
On one side, you have reasonable people who tolerate others beliefs, but don't want them forced on them or their children. On the other, a tiny minority of religious fanatics who believe that their belief system is so perfect, and so essential to mankinds welfare, that they feel justified in forcing it on others, up to and including using the authority of the state to promulgate their beliefs for them.
I have a deal I'd like to offer them. You want to preach your religion in public schools and other state run institutions? Fine. But you have to teach and preach them ALL. Not just your own correct faith, but all those nasty, wicked, heathen "wrong" ones. Islam. Zoroaster. Kali. Satan. Buddha.
Wait, you say. Those aren't "real" religions. Christianity is "different"!
It's the faith of the majority in this country, so it should get a special pass!
Sorry, Francis. Don't work that way in America. And you'd better quit asking for stuff without first thinking about what would happen if your toxic wishes actually came true. It's a bad habit.