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(ABC News)   Wisconsin University has banned the West Virginia Mountaineer mascot from bringing his musket to this weekend's football game. Madison is now the capital of communism   ( divider line
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2002-09-04 08:21:39 AM  
Oh my god, how horrible. Some redneck ridge runners could not fire their cap gun in the middle of 80,000 fans. Stop the presses. Get a life!
2002-09-04 08:47:35 AM  
Now if we could only keep FSU from trotting out that white guy with a spear, all dressed up like a ridiculous Indian nowhere close to authentic Seminole clothing.
2002-09-04 09:00:42 AM  
Muskets don't kill people, its those pesky balls.
2002-09-04 09:00:50 AM  
Whay don't they get rid of thet stupid Syracuse Orange as well.
2002-09-04 09:01:12 AM  
Anti-gun hysteria in Madison? Never.
2002-09-04 09:08:15 AM  
PC madness. This isn't amusing. It's sad. And scary.
2002-09-04 09:08:17 AM  
maybe wisconson has a lotta frenchies on thier team and the coach is worried they may see a gun an surender
2002-09-04 09:11:03 AM  
speakin of surrendering im off to go blow my brains out for poor spelling

drew add a spell checker for us early drunks
2002-09-04 09:18:15 AM  
That is so cool. Harmonia, Millay, Ironbar, and Badger all have TotalFark accounts in other names?
2002-09-04 10:20:53 AM  
To the 'tard who wrote the headline- it's "University of Wisconsin-Madison" or even UW-Madison, but never Wisconsin University. I might be nitpicking, but it's my alma mater.
2002-09-04 10:41:22 AM  
Am I the only one who doesn't see Ben Maller stories? (Using Mozilla 1.1) All I get is a 'Rumors and Notes' page with a handful of links but no text.
2002-09-04 10:41:26 AM  
Muskets are cool; however, since it's West Virgina (Mountaineers), wouldn't it more likely be a Virgina/Pennsylvania/Kentucky Rifle?

Just nitpicking from a history buff..
2002-09-04 10:41:54 AM  
09-04-02 09:18:15 AM Control

News to me. I think it was a server burp.
2002-09-04 10:42:04 AM  
Oh, sure. You gotta remember that over 90% of the attendees of that game are drunk. Not just a little drunk, but Wisconsin drunk. They're not gonna notice if any feeble mascot has a gunn or not.
2002-09-04 10:42:09 AM  
The terrorists, er, PC Army, er, some farkin' iceholes have already won!
2002-09-04 10:42:22 AM  
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Leave my musket home?I don't think so Tim
2002-09-04 10:43:22 AM  
I thought Milwaukee was a hotbed of communism.
2002-09-04 10:43:39 AM  
Who needs mascots? What wrong with cheerleaders? I'm more inspired by cleavage and tight buns than by some guy with a gun.
2002-09-04 10:45:25 AM  
"Didn't you know that Madison is now the capital of communism now that Moscow has gone democratic?" the UW fan asked.

How did this person get into University? Someone needs to tell the C.I.A. God forbid a Grid Iron fan should know better than the Central Intelligence Agency...
2002-09-04 10:46:44 AM  
"I'll die before I surrender, Tim"
2002-09-04 10:47:30 AM  
I wonder what's considered the capital of capitalism?
2002-09-04 10:47:34 AM  
They can have my musket when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.
2002-09-04 10:48:26 AM  
Mebbe they'd let him bring a Kalashnikov "AK-47" rifle instead?
2002-09-04 10:48:40 AM  
At least there's no line for the urinals at Wisconsin games, because the men all SQUAT TO PEE.
2002-09-04 10:48:48 AM  
Flakeloaf: Yeah I'm getting the same -- Ben Maller doesn't know shiat when it comes to standard HTML. ("Look at me, I'm a farktard that uses Frontpage! It's real easy!")

Anyway: Text of the story...

As college football rivalries go, West Virginia vs. Wisconsin doesn't conjure images of heated battles between proud teams on the field and passionate fans in the stands.

After all, the teams have met just twice and it is safe to say most of the current students weren't even around to see the last meeting, on Oct. 5, 1957, in Madison.

Yet Mountaineers fans have learned quickly to detest the Badgers and, it appears, the city of Madison. And it has nothing to do with the fact that Wisconsin leads the series, 2-0.

"This institution is one of the most liberal schools in the country," one West Virginia fan wrote Tuesday on "This school borders extreme left-wing radicalism."

Why the fuss?

Because UW officials recently informed officials from West Virginia that the school's mascot will not be allowed to bring his antique musket into Camp Randall Stadium when the Mountaineers meet the Badgers at 11:10 a.m. Saturday.

"They asked if they could bring in a musket and shoot it off in the stadium," UW associate athletic director Jamie Pollard said Tuesday. "And there is a UW System policy that prohibits weapons on the campus.

"When I first was asked (by West Virginia officials) about it I didn't even want to (pursue) it. But they pushed and we checked. But quite frankly even if it wasn't prohibited, we didn't want them to come in with it.

"First of all, it is our game. And we don't need a gun going off in front of 80,000 people. In the big spirit of it all I understand why they want to do it. But it is our home game."

According to a West Virginia official, the musket is akin to a starter's pistol and fires powder. The mascot has been asked in recent years not to fire the gun inside basketball arenas and even once at a football stadium, but until now no school has banned the musket.

"We always ask the question when we go somewhere we haven't been before," the official said. "The musket is one of the traditions of our state and that guy represents us. The mascot is a very prestigious position."

The Mountaineer mascot first appeared at athletic events during the 1936-'37 school year and has become a beloved figure on campus. The Mountaineer is selected each year by the Mountain, the school's senior honorary. Each costume is custom tailored to fit the winner and the male Mountaineers generally grow a beard to complement the coonskin cap and musket.

The passion the school's mascot inspires among West Virginia fans is obvious from their comments on the Internet.

"We need to be loud and vocal right away about this and get it fixed before the weekend," another fan wrote Tuesday. "This is a load of PC crap. We need to contact the papers, local stations and anyone we think of to help.

"It might not get the musket at the game but hopefully it will embarrass Wisconsin so bad that it won't happen again with them or any other school."

Contacting the National Rifle Association sounded like a good bit of strategy to several West Virginia fans.

"The NRA has no jurisdiction," another poster wrote, "but they certainly could poke some national fun at Wisconsin for failing to allow the rifle on campus. It smells of an attempt to deflate our spirit at the game."

When some Wisconsin fans decided to enter the fray, a West Virginia fan hinted at payback.

"How would you feel if we told you to leave Bucky at home?" the fan wrote.

Remember that Wisconsin opens the 2003 season at West Virginia.

However, at least one UW fan seemed sympathetic to the Mountaineers' plight.

"Didn't you know that Madison is now the capital of communism now that Moscow has gone democratic?" the UW fan asked.

That fan even suggested that Bucky Badger help break the rules and soothe the Mountaineers' ire.

"I think you should give the musket to Bucky and have him smuggle it in," the fan wrote. "I'm sure he would be happy to.

"As long as he could chase that Buckskin Mountaineer around the stadium with it."

Even if the battle on the field Saturday isn't entertaining, the battle of the mascots should be.

Source:The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Now... to go pound the farktard that decided that "BR /" is valid standard HTML.

2002-09-04 10:49:47 AM  
They don't call it the "People's Republic of Madison" for nothing, folks.

In the 60s, outside of Berkeley, Calif., Madison was probably the most liberal place in the U.S.

And did you know that Milwaukee is the only major American city to have elected three socialist mayors? The name of the city comes from "Me-lee-wa-kee" - Algonquin for, "the good land."

Man I love Wayne's World.
2002-09-04 10:50:46 AM  
Madison is a lovely town, but one of the few places in the world where so much of the town is left-leaning, that you'd swear the earth was tilted. I miss that place.
I wanted tickets for this game, but was too late to get them at an OK
2002-09-04 10:53:17 AM  

Let's get this straight... not all West Virginians are "redneck ridge runners."

Just the ones that go to WVU.

(Yes, I'm a Marshall graduate.)
2002-09-04 10:56:25 AM  
U. of Wisconson-Madison should change their mascot to "The Evil Abortion Doctor" and then see what happens when they go to West Virginia to play next season. But I guess that wouldn't be "PC" enough for a conservative school.
2002-09-04 10:58:59 AM  
No doubt this verdict was passed down from the Committee for Homeland Security, comrades. Either that or the same security assclowns that run the Charlotte airport security.
"Sir, will you please take a big drink from that water bottle?"
2002-09-04 11:00:26 AM  
Where is Jeffrey Dalmer when you need him?
2002-09-04 11:02:40 AM  
Anybody have anymore pictures of that musket? The stock looks like its made from quilted walnut. I would pay dearly to have several board feet of that.

/woodworking dork mode
2002-09-04 11:03:47 AM  
*gasp* you mean UW won't break it's own rules to let some cockslurpee with a gun run around their stadium firing his load or powder or whatever? The horror.
2002-09-04 11:04:11 AM  
Sounds like they're afraid that their cheddar cheese may wind up looking like Swiss cheese.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... Swiss cheese ...
2002-09-04 11:05:26 AM  
Behold......the power of CHEESE!!!!
2002-09-04 11:09:56 AM  
Hey Ironbar--slag off about Syracuse.

(And everyone knows our football team sucks so don't think you're clever by pointing it out.)
2002-09-04 11:10:16 AM  
I would LOVE a gun that fired, wait...
2002-09-04 11:10:40 AM  
09-04-02 11:03:47 AM Cobranzino
*gasp* you mean UW won't break it's own rules to let some cockslurpee with a gun run around their stadium firing his load or powder or whatever? The horror.

Firing his load of musket powder is one thing, but firing his load of **whatever** is altogether another thing, so keep your distance.

2002-09-04 11:12:07 AM  
Just FYI

Madison is a different state than Wisconsin. 69 square miles surrounded by reality is what the rest of Wisconsinites like to call it. And yes, since the fall of the Soviet Union, it is the Communist capital of the world.
2002-09-04 11:12:20 AM  
As a recent graduate of WVU I must say this...we send all our "redneck ridge runners" more to the south. More or less just west of charleston.
If anything, WVU is jammed full of New Jersey refugees.
2002-09-04 11:15:38 AM  
A friend of mine (and WVU fan) pointed this out to me, and I had to admit I hadn't thought of it: Does UW use starter pistols at track meets? Or are those banned, too?

I'm a UW fan, and I think this is pretty silly. Ask him not to fire it (and pummel him if he does), but let him have his toy gun if he wants it.
2002-09-04 11:19:17 AM  
Should have had the [image from too old to be available] tag.

People's Republic of Madison, indeed, or just as appropriate: "63 Square Miles Surrounded by Reality".
2002-09-04 11:19:52 AM  
While we're on PC and college teams:

Any other Micks out there want to sue Notre Dame for perpetuating racial stereotypes to the detriment of the image of Irish people?

The whole thing really cheeses me off, especially since other ethnic groups (rightly, I say) have gotten schools to change their names. I mean, if it was the "Enforcin' Italians" or "Self-Righteous Germans" I think someone would have complained long ago.

Honestly, I get so angry about this it takes at least 2 Guinneses to calm down. Not that I want to perpetuate ethnic stereotypes.
2002-09-04 11:19:57 AM  
09-04-02 10:43:22 AM Ironbar:
"I thought Milwaukee was a hotbed of communism."

Not sure about the city proper, but the metro area is surprisingly right-leaning. Their most popular talk radio personality, Mark Belling, seems to be to the right of Rush Limbaugh.

Fifty years ago, Milwaukee had definite socialist leanings, however.
2002-09-04 11:20:57 AM  
i hear dueling banjos in my head right now.
2002-09-04 11:22:16 AM  
What are the North Dakota State University Suicide Bombers going to do when they go to Madison? I hope those liberal freaks don't stop him from doing his traditional running into the stands and pretending to blow up everybody.
2002-09-04 11:22:19 AM  
The policy prohibits weapons on campus. Firing the gun is not against the rules. Carrying it is.

I always hated that Mountaineer guy anyway, but he has the advantage of being able to be transported easily. The cannon used (or maybe not anymore?) at Va Tech is much louder and exciting.
2002-09-04 11:23:23 AM  
Madison is the home of P/C running wild. Next up will be the banning of the plastic spears, swords and axes. After that, mascots w/tought attitudes like the fighting Irish, "put those fists down or leave campus!" Then ban the Purdue boilermakers, someone may think it's causeing people to abuse alcohol.
When is it going to stop? What about all those people preaching tolerance, shouldn't they get involved? Makes for strange bedfellows doesn't it.
2002-09-04 11:23:33 AM  
Bed-wettin' liberals rejoice!

First of all, it is our game. And we don't need a gun going off in front of 80,000 people

It would be funny to see 80,000 UW fans running in stark terror from a musket blast. Kind of reminds me of France for some reason...
2002-09-04 11:23:56 AM  
Why is that WVU had over 54 thousand fans attending a game against a I-AA school when MU couldn't even muster 32 thousand? Oh, that's right, Marshall sucks ass. WVU will always be the premier school in WV and MU's colors are testament to Marshall's permanent envy of the superior institution.
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