You comitted a crime with that equipment. You keep it till your time is served.

Nothing is stopping them from playing doctor and letting the real docs stop the bleeding at taxpayers expense.

Do you really want a prison doctor performing that kind of advanced surgery?

After reading what prompted him to commit murder, I'm surprised there is much of anything to cut off

Allowing? Heck, they should be requiring

/I kid.
//well, except for sex offenders.

Hey, on the bright side, they get all the rape they want in prison.

I say we force rapists into having sex changes. Without their penises, they won't be a threat to society.

I got your sex change right here, asshat:



Hold still...it'll only hurt for a second or two

Correctional sexual deviance trifecta in play?

This thread needs some Mrs. Garrison pics

This inmate should be suing the initial defense lawyer for malpractice. How can that possibly be murder and alife sentence?

As far as inmates in general, you can't deny inmates medical treatment, but you can't give them a better level of care than law-abiding citizens either. Maybe a good measure would be what the state employees' health plan covers.

In this particular case, let the inmate have the operation if he can come up with the money through donations.

Yeah. Good luck, buddy.

Why haven't we outlawed this behaviour yet? These people are mentally ill, and shouldn't be free to roam the streets. I'm not a close minded person either. Do whatever you want from the privacy of a jail cell, but it shouldn't be out where I have to see it.

Prisoners have access to a legal library while in prison.

They file lawsuits between the times of being raped (or raping somebody) or shived (or shiving somebody).

Filing lawsuits against the prison is one of the forms of recreation, along with digging tunnels, getting tattoed, and trying to stick it to the guards without getting your ass beat.

That article makes me desirous of a species-change operation myself.

Change of sex? The guards will trade in their batons for cattle prods. You want change, you got it.

/no grease for you

I'd be happy to have my tax dollars pay for their surgery. Let me just finish writing out this check to the Federal Machete Reserve ...

This is MASSACHUSETTS ...Gay Marriage,Ted Kennedy,John Kerry,

He will win the case.

we_hates: I say we force rapists into having sex changes. Without their penises, they won't be a threat to society.

If you think "intercourse" is the only way they can be a threat to someone, than sure... no threat.

If you consider the multitude of other things said person could do to another person out of frustration, then not so much.

Lovely that these people who commit crimes can continue to burden society with stupid shiat like this. Gotta love lawyers and our wonderful system that allows this kind of bullshiat to go on!

The question at the center of the case: Should a murderer serving life in prison get a sex-change operation at taxpayer expense

Gee that's a hard one to answer. I'm going to have to say no.

The question at the center of the case: Should a murderer serving life in prison get a sex-change operation at taxpayer expense

I say yes.

Heck I'm paying for someone's welfare check, why not this?

I'm Massachusetts, so I'm really getting a kick of these replies.

Sure, and be forced to wear it around his neck or through his nose.

Every once in a while, it's nice knowing SCOTUS is so conservative these days. Too bad by the time it gets that far, the state will have spent so much on the case they could have changed all the transgender inmates in the system back and forth several times.

"They are prisoners. They are there because they've broken the law," said Republican state Sen. Scott Brown, who unsuccessfully introduced a bill to ban sex-change surgery for inmates. "Other folks, people who want to get these types of surgeries, they have to go through their insurance carrier or save up for it and do it independently. Yet if you are in prison, you can do it for nothing? That doesn't make a lot of sense."

/never thought I'd agree with a Republican Senator this much
//ever.
///quote says it all.

1. get sentenced to life in prison
2. get sex change
3. get housed in women's prison, have female cell mate, shower with women


/dnrtfa

FTFA: "The duty belongs to the prison to figure out how to fulfill its constitutional obligations to both provide adequate medical care and provide a fundamental security for all inmates," said Cole Thaler, an attorney with Lambda Legal, a gay- and transgender-rights group..


Thanks, liberals!

ubermensch

Better plan, leave country, goto Brazil. Get Brazillian woman preggers. You can't be extradited till all your children are 21 years of age.

While you're having your dick chopped off to get in womens prison with bull dyke cellmate, I'll be hangin out in Rio......

Oldiron_79: Better plan, leave country, goto Brazil. Get Brazillian woman preggers. You can't be extradited till all your children are 21 years of age.

While you're having your dick chopped off to get in womens prison with bull dyke cellmate, I'll be hangin out in Rio......

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bearded clamorer
*threadjack*
How many people are currently incarcerated as a result of lack of accessible mental health care in this great nation?
*end threadjack*

Why does it matter? Do jail bars stop working when the person is crazy?

this guy is farked, he will continue to be miserable if he looses, If he wins he will spend the rest of his life in solitaire, or if he/she stays in gen pop be the most used piece of meat in the dog pound, there is no way that he will win a transfer to a female facility in this day and age.

Kanemano
there is no way that he will win a transfer to a female facility in this day and age.

Good. Why in the world would he get transferred to a female facility?

Kanemano: there is no way that he will win a transfer to a female facility in this day and age.

I wouldn't jump to that so quickly. There has been legislation pending since like 2005 for other prisoners to do exactly that.

yay socializ...

no, i won't.

We should let them do the sex change. Just do it poorly and with the wrong equipment.

Its not that we dont want to give you a sex change. We do. Its just, the way WE want to do it may not be...how should i say, agreeable to you. :)

Its our money anyway.

AnonAmbientLight

Agree since it is considered "elective" surgery, how about moving the penis to say.. his forehead?

Filing lawsuits against the prison is one of the forms of recreation

Yep, pretty much, and they'll name anyone and everyone, from the COs up to the governor, in their suits. Prisoners are also allowed to file lawsuits in forma pauperis, meaning they don't have to pay the filing fee if they can show that they don't have the money (which is a good thing really, because if your civil rights are legitimately being trampled you shouldn't have to pay to get justice). But obviously this leads to widespread abuse. So now there's the Prisoner Litigation Reform Act which allows judges to throw out frivolous lawsuits and count them as a "strike" against the inmate. Three strikes, and you're out. No more in forma pauperis lawsuits.

I used to work for the Illinois DOC and I set up the initial strike-tracking system. The AG's office loved me because I would check their upcoming inmate litigants against my database, and the Assistant AGs could then go to the judge with a list of past strikes and have the new suit dismissed before it even got started.

Of course the prisoners were still free to file suit with their own money, but......well that's no fun, is it?

Pribar
how much can a razor blade and sewing kit cost?

SEWING KIT!? Now you're just gettin' fancy...

/If my tax $ paid for it, that penis better be hangin' on my wall.

I have no problems at all with transsexuality, none whatsoever. I'd be happy to hear that the state was providing coverage for these procedures to its employees -- that would be great.

But seriously, giving murderers operations that most commercial insurance packages don't cover? No farking way.

I think Massachusetts has out-California-d California.

I made up that verb there.

I'm with SusanIvanova, who apparently has some sort of compassion and understanding for people who happen to be different from her.

I'd agree with giving hormones to TS inmates in general, and always if they came into prison already on them. But as long as I'd have to pay out-of-pocket for surgery, i damned well don't want some farkin murderer getting it for free. Prison sucks. Deal with it.

And insurance companies are the asshats-extraordinare for not covering something that is NOT an elective surgery. If I was blind, but could have a surgery to be able to see, would they consider that elective? Blind people can do just fine as they are, hell, they get dogs and books with dots, right? It's not like they need to see to live, right?

Not all TS people feel the need for surgery, some just take hormones. Some are the opposite. But they do it because they HAVE TO, not because it sounds interesting, or a great way to blow thousands of *their own* dollars. It's not as simple as so many of you like to think.

Anybody who has a problem with TS people ought to try to imagine what it's like to be in our situation. It's really funny unless you have to live it.