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2007-06-21 02:04:14 PM  
Distinguished Vesicles: /Boobies on fark evar

ummm... for one... whenever you put in the words Boobies the filter replaces it with the word BOOBIES!

check the fark faq... also there is a wikipedia entry on fark... check that out.
 
2007-06-21 02:05:18 PM  
Wow, Drew makes a lot of sense.

"Local newspapers may be lulling themselves into a false sense of security by thinking they can reverse their subscriber loss somehow, some way. Barring some amazing innovation that no one has yet envisioned, and that's certainly a possibility, print media subscriber loss will not be reversed under any circumstances. A company depending on unheard-of innovation for its survival is about as effective as you depending on the lottery to cover your retirement." -- P.255

"It is highly likely that it may not even be possible to convert newspapers, radio, and TV to the internet and maintain the same income levels from advertising, because now marketing folks can't lie about how effective it is anymore. And by drop in income, I don't mean a loss of 10 percent; we're talking 90 percent or more. That's a conservative estimate; it could be much worse.


Pre-internet, Mass Media could charge for ads based on total circulation or viewership whether anyone opened the newspaper to page A5 or actually watched the evening news at 5:42 P.M. Now Mass Media can charge only if the reader actually reads the specific page in question. Fark's own usage statistics indicate that the average Fark reader clicks on 2 or 3 articles out of 100 main page articles and 200 sub-page articles. The implication here is that people visiting Mass Media Web sites don't read many of the articles. Putting it simply: On the Internet, Mass Media can no longer charge money for ads no one sees." -- P.262-263

//Gold
 
2007-06-21 02:06:16 PM  
LookForTheArrow: i just don't buy the logic (and just this one).. recruiting a suicide bomber or two for a conspiracy where the bombers family gets $$$ = easy.. repurposing nuclear/biological weapons that are under surveillance and security scrutiny by large organizations without notice = hard.

You really haven't paid much attention.

The 9/11 conspiracy people have accused the government of a lot more than just recruiting a few bombers. They believe things like the other tower was imploded by the gov't with pre-set charges, that the twin towers didn't collapse by themselves either, but were blown up by gov't operatives, etc. Now, to do that, would be a huge conspiracy requiring a lot of people and massive coordination. That's a lot of effort and requires a really good bunch of people to pull off.

On the other hand, planting some WMD evidence in Iraq and phoning in a "tip" so it gets found in order to save face and look like the pre-war fears were valid; that would be far easier to pull off. All that would take is a little diversion of biological or chemical agents (not really hard at all for the government to do, just issue some transfer orders here and there and change a few inventory levels to disappear a little. Then a simple plane ride, plant the stuff, and make an anonymous phone call. Only really a handful of people would have to be involved. The plane is easy; plenty of trips back and forth already, just slip a few crates on board labeled "toilet paper".

Really, planting WMD evidence in Iraq would be a lot easier than somehow planting charges to implode the towers. Those buildings were occupied 24/7 with people always working. How do you not notice a bunch of workmen over weeks coming and going? It's not like it would be smuggled in a single lunch box, that much explosives would take weeks to bring in and place and require a lot of people.
 
2007-06-21 02:06:34 PM  
Could someone who has read (or who wrote) the book add a bit of context to the following apparent contradiction:

"Readers assume information carried by Mass Media is true solely because it appears there. While Mass Media asks its audience to treat all media matters with a degree of skepticism, no one actually does. People expect Mass Media to do that for them, but it doesn't. Whether it should is another issue entirely." -- P.95-96

vs.

"Mass Media will respond that media issues are of great importance because they impact the public trust in news organizations. This ignores the fact that most people already believe Mass Media either makes stuff up, is biased one way or the other, or constantly gets information wrong. Finding out that journalists sometimes invent stories just confirms their preexisting viewpoint." -- P.248


Is Drew's overall thesis that people trust Mass Media too much, or that we know full well that they're full of crap?
 
2007-06-21 02:07:16 PM  
DrewIs have b00k?!

can have scribblages times 4 plz?

liek ahn calundehr?

DrewIs Dayz R best!

Yum!
 
2007-06-21 02:09:49 PM  
I'm glad he's getting good reviews from my posts over the past few years. I thought they were good when I wrote them, they're great when he writes them.
 
2007-06-21 02:16:29 PM  
oooh let's all post our favorite fifty quotes from Drew's book!!!
 
2007-06-21 02:17:22 PM  
remus

thanks for your thoughts on the subject. I don't believe that anyone would plant charges, etc.. that's wack thinking. I think it is with the realm of the possible that the bombers could have been recruited and used by a third party - that the towers actually fell being an unconsidered effect - and that is all the conspiracy theory one needs. Why go to all the length to make a crazy hollywood setup when the simple truth seems that terrorists took out the Twin Towers. The conspiracy question truly is:

Who is behind that act?
Who benefits from it?

And that there is where the word "nationality" starts meaning very little compared to "interests"

/WoooOwOwWowwOOWwwoohhhhhh dun dun duhhhhhh
 
2007-06-21 02:18:27 PM  
I would like to personally thank Drew for crashing something called "Right Wing News."

The reality-based community is grateful.
 
2007-06-21 02:19:32 PM  
I got the book for Father's Day, and am about halfway through.

Drew has done enough to make me chuckle, and I'm very glad to see some of my favorite Farkers in their with their witty humor as well.

However, I had a sad realization the other day.

By complaining and actually outlining some of nonsense in media today, he's invariably doing (giving exposure to) the same thing he's railing about. Maybe even giving some of these cretins ideas...
Throw in the popularity of the site, and advertising for the book, it makes for one ironic read.

Damn you, Drew!!!

/It's ok, ya made me laugh.
 
2007-06-21 02:20:32 PM  
Just finished the book. Still pissed that my comments didn't get included.
 
2007-06-21 02:23:21 PM  
Is that honestly a Fred Thompson ad right below a Michael Moore ad?

Color me impressed
 
2007-06-21 02:27:43 PM  
"If bird flu had killed 1.7 million people last year, everyone would panic. We'd have 72-point-font headlines screaming about the end of the world, riots in the streets, and general societal collapse if Mass Media is to be believed, given its dire bird flu predictions. It turns out that 1.7 million happens to be the number of people killed by tuberculosis in 2004. Three million people would be even worse, right? That's how many people died from AIDS worldwide in 2004. Nobody is panicking." -- P.56

Huh. That's pretty deep, kinda. I'm probably going to have to go buy the book now.
 
2007-06-21 02:28:11 PM  
Nightsweat: Right Wing News. No way I'm giving them traffic.

What happened to equal time for nut jobs?
 
2007-06-21 02:30:19 PM  
The second positive review linked on Fark.

Also, the second positive review from a decidedly right-wing publication linked on Fark.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
 
2007-06-21 02:30:39 PM  
Hey! Are any of my comments in the book?

I make the funniest comments evar! But most Farkers aren't smart enough to understand my comedic genius.

Hell! I doubt my comments are even read most the time, unless I post a picture of Jessica Alba in a crot bathing suit.

www.bartcop.com

/"crot" = "crazy hot"
 
2007-06-21 02:31:54 PM  
Ze link - she is farked...
 
2007-06-21 02:31:59 PM  
"they don't realize that people take rumor as fact from mainstream news outlets"

"Readers assume information carried by Mass Media is true solely because it appears there."

"This ignores the fact that most people already believe Mass Media either makes stuff up, is biased one way or the other, or constantly gets information wrong."

Which is it, Drew?
 
2007-06-21 02:41:06 PM  
"Readers assume information carried by Mass Media is true solely because it appears there..."

"...this ignores the fact that most people already believe Mass Media either makes stuff up, is biased one way or the other, or constantly gets information wrong. Finding out that journalists sometimes invent stories just confirms their preexisting viewpoint."


Hey Drew! Which is it?

/actually, I'm fully prepared to believe that "Right Wing News" took these quotes out of context
//so don't ban me
 
2007-06-21 02:41:40 PM  
I don't find it apolitical to imply New Orleans should not be rebuilt, as if building a decent dyke system is impossible (the Dutch proved it) or rebuilding New Orleans is inappropriate because they're not our kind of people.

The Dutch have been paying for their own system for a while. They want to live there, and they are paying the costs involved.

Meanwhile, in NO, people not only insist on living on a known flood plain that has demonstrated it's ability to cause widespread damage, but those same folks want the rest of the country to subsidize that decision. This is despite having many, many, many of thousands of square miles outside of said flood plain to use as a potential habitable area.

Apples and Oranges.
 
2007-06-21 02:44:08 PM  
LINK FARKED!
 
2007-06-21 02:44:19 PM  
Mr. Xhin

That's ridiculous. I make the funniest comments on Fark that no one ever reads.
 
2007-06-21 02:45:27 PM  
What happened to equal time for nut jobs?

Reagan ended that in '87.
 
2007-06-21 02:47:00 PM  
nevermind
 
2007-06-21 02:47:34 PM  
so, um....

Recently I read of an initiative to require car manufacturers to install sensors that alert drivers when leave a baby in the backseat accidentally.

mistake in the book, or just the article?
 
2007-06-21 02:49:51 PM  
ender44 2007-06-21 01:59:26 PM
My favorite quote was on page 17:
"You'll get over it."

That one slays me every time.


GAME OVER.
 
2007-06-21 02:52:57 PM  
Drew thinks he knows but he doesn't
 
2007-06-21 02:55:08 PM  
L.B. Jeffries

that is a great idea. i volunteer . . . especially if drew will sponsor me (and my whiskey habit).

alternately, you could get a collection of the most controversial posters on fark (g.o.t., that one jewish guy who's name starts with a T, sunny ray, and IXI Jim IXI for comedic relief)and have fark forums all over the country.

/would make an interesting addition to fark parties . . .
 
2007-06-21 02:56:14 PM  
I just bought the book but dont see a totalfark subsrcription anywhere
 
2007-06-21 02:57:20 PM  
This Drew person...he is right at least 3/4 of the time.

No wonder he never posts on Fark.
 
2007-06-21 02:57:22 PM  
Great Service! (Temporarily Unavailable)
 
2007-06-21 02:58:01 PM  
hotter than the ads: alternately, you could get a collection of the most controversial posters on fark (g.o.t., that one jewish guy who's name starts with a T, sunny ray, and IXI Jim IXI for comedic relief)and have fark forums all over the country.

"The subject of the panel today is farking a dead labrador. IXI Jim IXI, The distinguished gentleman from Rhode Island, will make the opening statements..."
 
2007-06-21 03:00:50 PM  
According to Amazon.com Drew co-wrote a Shadowrun module.
 
2007-06-21 03:03:40 PM  
Drew's credentials:
Skimming an s-load of internet news stories

Person with authoritative opinion's credentials:
Advanced degree
Professional experience
etc.
 
2007-06-21 03:06:52 PM  
"It's going to be a long while before people forget that Hurricane Katrina pretty much destroyed New Orleans. After which, the citizens of that fine city promptly rebuilt it in the same place, ten feet below sea level right next to the Mississippi. What could possibly go wrong? Again, I mean." -- P.151

I often wondered the same thing for years BEFORE Katrina. It only affirmed my rational analysis of the situation. Now I have to put up with all the filth the hurricane washed into Houston. Any city where you have to be constantly pumping water out to keep the city from flooding is not somewhere you want to live.

/They should just forget about rebuilding NO.
//Stop glamorizing the retards that actually went back to that accident waiting to happen.
///You are not supposed to be able to be in your back yard looking UP at the river next to you.
 
2007-06-21 03:07:18 PM  
Can someone photoshop a picture of drew getting teabagged?
I think that would be funny to see.
 
2007-06-21 03:11:02 PM  
DNRTFARKEDA
 
2007-06-21 03:15:06 PM  
I'm looking forward to further insight presented by WorldNetDaily and Little Green Footballs.

"Free Republic presents more Common Sense Thinking from Drew Curtis".
 
2007-06-21 03:15:57 PM  
"Take 9/11. After the shock wore off, Congress, the media, and pretty much every other interest group out there demanded to know how the U.S. government had let it happen. Today no one remembers that on 9/10/2001 no one gave a crap about terrorism. We all thought it couldn't happen in the United States. We'll be right back to that attitude in a short while if no more attacks occur, assuming we're not there already."

Damn straight Drew. Far left bloggers keep saying we are country of fear etc etc. Drew is right. No one is scared. No one talks about terrorism. It is not the number one issue.
 
2007-06-21 03:19:41 PM  
Cubicle Jockey
Apples and Oranges.

Not apolitical either. Get my point?
 
2007-06-21 03:19:44 PM  
Drew has essentially accomplished nothing more but to take the obvious, and set it down in book form.

Network news has been farked for years, but nobody calls attention to it, and the average clown is too stupid to know--or care.

Nice job, Drew.
 
2007-06-21 03:20:37 PM  
Hang On Voltaire: No one is scared.

Well, sounds like you're doing pretty well in that department.

Personally, I'm more afraid being struck by lightening. It's far more likely than being killed by terrorism.

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"
-That Guy on Letterman
 
2007-06-21 03:21:28 PM  
olddinosaur: Drew has essentially accomplished nothing more but to take the obvious, and set it down in book form.

And get paid for it. ;)

Looks like we finally have step 2.
 
2007-06-21 03:21:32 PM  
Mr. Xhin

Ummm..... What?!

/distracted
 
2007-06-21 03:21:43 PM  
mongbiohazard
If Bush had started beefing up homeland security before 9/11 - say by beefing up pre-flight passenger screening to todays levels - it would have been the crime of the century. *Everyone* on all sides of the political spectrum would have flipped out. Republicans and Democrats would have held hands together and worked to stop this "terrible erosion of our privacy". It would have been a scandal, and no one would even understand why he wanted to do it.

Except for the fact that those little preflight passenger checks done by the Tards Standing Around do nothing, other than make gullible people think they are safer.
 
2007-06-21 03:24:04 PM  
felixstrange
Well, sounds like you're doing pretty well in that department.
Personally, I'm more afraid being struck by lightening. It's far more likely than being killed by terrorism.


Exactly but you still have to be on guard against it
 
2007-06-21 03:24:06 PM  
"What people are interested in is not, for the most part, hard news. Witness the travesty that is CNN's most popular articles section. Taking today as a random example, without looking beforehand, mind you, we have a main page story about Bin Laden preparing another attack on the United States. Hey, that's real news. Most popular: "raw fish, air guitar help trio survive 9 months adrift at sea." No further comment needed." -- P.251

While I completely agree that most people like BS news, I already assume that Bin Laden is preparing another attack, so I don't feel the need to read the article, and I am quite curious in a 9 month adrift at sea article. The air guitar is like the cherry on top that makes you want to read it.
 
2007-06-21 03:24:07 PM  
3ntropy:
DNRTFARKEDA

Kinda puts it all into perspective right there.
 
2007-06-21 03:24:26 PM  
"It's going to be a long while before people forget that Hurricane Katrina pretty much destroyed New Orleans. After which, the citizens of that fine city promptly rebuilt it in the same place, ten feet below sea level right next to the Mississippi. What could possibly go wrong? Again, I mean." -- P.151

Lake Pontchartrain flooded New Orleans. The Mississippi River Levees held up just fine. If the levees had been built correctly, none of the city would have flooded.

In unrelated news, New York City is at great risk of flooding. They should move.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1553074.stm

http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1526

Specifically there's a HUGE hurricane flooding threat to New York City. They should move.

http://www.livescience.com/environment/050601_hurricane_1938.html
 
2007-06-21 03:24:37 PM  
Today no one remembers that on 9/10/2001 no one gave a crap about terrorism. We all thought it couldn't happen in the United States." -- P.55

Um, no.

"...Media Fearmongering stories tend to always cover somewhat unlikely events. Recently I read of an initiative to require car manufacturers to install sensors that alert drivers when leave a baby in the backseat accidentally. Along those same lines, there is an off switch for the passenger-side airbag in my car, a device that has caused only 30-40 deaths ever. By comparison, more people die every year from drinking too much water. Should Congress legislate safety shutoff valves for faucets? Should they regulate our water to keep us from drinking too much?" -- P.57

Well, it's no surprise "Right Wing News" loved a specious argument like that. The deaths are comparable, so how often is an airbag deployed with a child in a car seat in the passenger side? Now, how often does somebody drink water?
How about a useful statistic, like a per-instance comparison?
 
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