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(Discover)   Yeah, everybody made fun of him, but that guy selling moon land for $19.99 an acre has made $9 million so far. That's one giant leap for a man   ( divider line 90
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2007-06-16 11:50:12 AM  
To quote someone that Vernor Venge quoted in "What if the singularity doesn't happen"

"What if we get out into space and find out it's already occupied?"

Now, what this guy is really selling are novelty deeds. Sorta like a giant hundred dollar bill you can use to say "Hey, can you break a large bill for me"

I checked his site, and he has an embassy in Second Life. He also crashed his plane back on May 19th.

Someone needs to rework all of the numbers. He is selling the deeds and what not for $19.99, plus $12.50 S&H
2007-06-16 11:57:21 AM  
If you want to go throwing money away on things that don't exist I'm poor how about giving it to me. I can print up phony pieces of paper claiming ownership of something too.

/kidding about everything but the poor part
//been trying to find work for months, I'm going crazy here
2007-06-16 12:03:13 PM  

He may not really own the Moon, but it looks like he's owned about half a million people.

localroger ftw
2007-06-16 12:11:43 PM  
Selling property on the moon is not legal, and no national entity will recognize such sales.

See the Moon Treaty and the Outer Space Treaty.

This guy may have made $9m, but he'll be out twice that in attorney's fees and court costs once his 'customers' realize they are the victims of fraud.
2007-06-16 12:16:55 PM  
Why can't we compete with him buy selling land AT HALF THE PRICE!!!

2007-06-16 12:36:00 PM  
NASA has already stated they won't respect these deeds.
2007-06-16 12:41:02 PM  
I saw this guy on a documentary on The History Channel. He picks the plots of land he sells by closing his eyes, and randomly selecting a plot from a map of the moon he has sectioned off like a grid. Apparently he's sold plots to all types of people, Hollywood stars, government officials, and of course tourists.
2007-06-16 12:44:06 PM  
I find it hard to believe that anyone who purchased these "deeds" thought they were buying anything other than a novelty item.

2007-06-16 12:47:28 PM  
Does he sell exclusively to those with severe Down's Syndrome?
2007-06-16 01:12:11 PM  
Screw the moon. I am going after Mars.
2007-06-16 01:18:05 PM  
Phil Herup
"That moon is Imperial property."

Dude, that's not a moon. That's a space station.
2007-06-16 01:19:36 PM  
How does the U.S. not own the moon?

No other country has even landed there. This is how it's worked for hundreds of years. You go somewhere without white people, plant a flag and it's yours.
2007-06-16 01:21:58 PM  
I hope the conspiracy theories are true and aliens do live on the moon and they find out about this and vaporize him.
2007-06-16 01:34:01 PM  
Rik01: When we landed on the moon, it was not claimed just for America, but for the world. I read somewhere that it had been decided not to claim the whole planet -- as would be traditionally our right to do so as being the first there -- as a gesture of global cooperation.

No, actually, the Outer Space Treaty gives the Moon and other planets status like the sea - you can't own it. Everyone has the right to use it, and no one has the right to claim it.

It also directly sinks this guy's argument - non-governmental organisations can only function with the authorisation of their parent States.
2007-06-16 01:38:08 PM  
Anyone refuting these claims must show proof of ownership, in the form of United States currency not to be in an amount less than $150,000,000,000,000,000,000.

I'll have the money sent to you immediately. But first I'm going to need you to wire $200,000.00 to my bank account in Nigeria to help pay for administrative fees, service fees, wealth transfer fees, etc. Please let me know when I can expect payment.
2007-06-16 01:41:55 PM  
... and one bigger leap for real-esate fraud!

can't sell what you don't own.
2007-06-16 01:44:03 PM  
this guy should be cockpunched..
what a joke
2007-06-16 01:45:49 PM  
hey ali is the degoba star system available? I have an 'old friend' there
2007-06-16 02:19:40 PM  
Five bucks says he's selling quit-claims, and telling a story.
Whether he's opening himself up for trouble depends on exactly who he's telling the story to.

/Anybody want to buy this 'deed' to Paris Hilton's snatch?
2007-06-16 02:38:47 PM  
As the ranking diplomatic representative for the Glorious Republic of Mars, I can categorically state that should anyone claim ownership of our glorious Homeland that said claim will be met with swift and terrible retribution!

sings Martian National Anthem:
"eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!" *

*NB: Glorious Martian National Anthem meant to be sung in thin air of Mars
2007-06-16 03:22:56 PM  
But, but, I thought it belongs to whoever puts a flag on it first.

That's what our history teacher Mrs. Izzard told us.

So the USA owns the Moon until somebody else puts a flag on it and then whoever wins the fight owns the Moon.

/apparently Mars is owned by every human with a Y chromosome.
//Venus, by everybody without one.
///But who owns Uranus, biatch?
2007-06-16 03:34:04 PM  
Fark You: McGill university is in Montreal, not Toronto. Stupid, stupid author.

2007-06-16 03:47:25 PM  

How does the U.S. not own the moon?

No other country has even landed there. This is how it's worked for hundreds of years. You go somewhere without white people, plant a flag and it's yours.

One of the biggest reasons we had to beat the Russians to the moon was the fear that if they got there first and claimed it, they might actually own it.

We got there first, and left a plaque stating that "we came in peace for all mankind".

Then we made a treaty saying no country could own it.

/that was back in the day when the USA was cool.
2007-06-16 03:56:25 PM  
It just occurred to me:

In the 1940's the USA saved the world.
in the 1960's,the USA saved the moon (and the rest of the solar system).

Dammit USA, get your groove back on.
2007-06-16 03:58:23 PM  
Daddy's Big Pink Man-Squirrel: But, but, I thought it belongs to whoever puts a flag on it first.

That's what our history teacher Mrs. Izzard told us.

So the USA owns the Moon until somebody else puts a flag on it and then whoever wins the fight owns the Moon.

I'll weep the day that we bring our rotten barbaric culture to other worlds.

Not that I don't like our rotten barbaric culture. Don't get me wrong, I love humanity. I think we're the quintessential starchildren and that it's pretty much our destiny to venture out into the stars.

But there are scourges that exist in our civilization which would love to corrupt everything, and that includes the hyper-capitalization of outer space. We should, for as long as we could, keep terrestrial matters terrestrial and celestial matters celestial. At least until we could handle it.

Of course, we would be the sole entity who would determine when that time would be. Except, scratch that, the scourge of opportunistic property lawyers w/ lobbyists, and clueless politicians pandering to a currency-obsessed constituency, would be the ones to stand behind the microphone and declare open season on real estate on Titan.

God damn it.

/Michael Valentine Smith, where are you when we need you?
2007-06-16 04:21:09 PM  

St_Francis_P & skunkmasher

I don't think he even went to the trouble of buying the rights in the first place.
Didn't Harriman purchase the rights [for almost nothing] from the nations the moon passes directly over?

At least DD Harriman had some kind of claim to the moon, this clown just pulled it out of his ass.

He didn't "salt" returning moon flights with bags of diamonds, either. All in all, his plan was poorly thought out, yet still financially rewarding.
2007-06-16 04:23:58 PM  
This explains alot...
From his website
"Recently Dennis Hope and the Lunar Embassy have been presented a wonderful acknowledgment from the Congress of the United States. Mr. Hope has been named co-chairman of the Republican Congressional Business Advisory Council. He has also been given the National Republican Leadership Award and most recently he has been issued the highest honor the National Republican Congressional Committee has, the prestigious Republican Gold Medal.We at the Lunar Embassy are pleased that our work for the last twenty-three years is finally beginning to be recognized by the United States government as being valid. This is a huge step in the official recognition by the USA for the claims we made and the diligence with which we have pursued our challenging quest. Finally a major world power has spoken to us and they have been kind."
2007-06-16 05:13:14 PM  
He's not selling land, he's selling documents.
2007-06-16 06:10:29 PM  
neener neener

Selling forged documents is a crime.
2007-06-16 06:12:17 PM  
A distant cousin (never met him, really distant, not trying to sound Internet-important) made millions similarly; he bought up useless Texas desert, subdivided it into 1"x1" plots and sold deeds to tourists for $1 each. Thennnn the government got all tangled up when it came time for taxes, so he had to stop.
2007-06-16 06:37:57 PM

He made 9 million dollars!
2007-06-16 07:26:05 PM  
I am hereby claiming ownership of the sun. Lights out at 8.
2007-06-16 07:58:37 PM  
I kinda admire this guy. Most people consider it a novelty, and he has a cute story to go with it. Frankly, there are lots of precedents to this sort of thing -- like conquistadors and such, and various gold rushes, etc. The difference of course is that in most of those cases you had to actually visit the place to make the claim. Anyway, it is a decent way to make money, and is not really a scam because I doubt any of the people buying these believe there is chance or use for what they are buying.
2007-06-16 08:21:49 PM  
He's a crook! All non-Earth real estate was declared to belong to Arthur Dean Lindsey of Georgia, at the local courthouse. The man selling property on the moon is guilty of theft!
2007-06-16 08:26:34 PM
2007-06-16 09:50:17 PM  
2007-06-16 11:39:36 PM  
It's not yours to sell, asswipe.
2007-06-17 12:09:48 AM  
I'll lay claim to some of the larger asteroids. Ceres, Phobos, Deimos, Phoebe...
2007-06-17 02:54:04 PM  
I am impressed. 9 mill and he did NOT use erik estrada
2007-06-17 03:10:40 PM  
I nominate this man for biggest douche in the universe 2007.
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