Suck it, hippies!

I work at poultry farms so I am getting a kick out of these replies...
no really i go to egg farms and the ones that are scary are the huge ones that sell "organic" or "free range eggs". if you want to buy organic or free range get your own chicken or buy from some small local farmer. The free range organic chickens wallow in their own crap and usually kill other chickens and eat them. they also are left to die and there are rotting chicken corpses among the other chickens. most of the regular corporate chicken houses i have been in are climate controlled and cleaned at least once a week and they have sanitary washes to enter and exit buildings. so i would rather eat non-organic closed range eggs that i know are clean than the alternative.

/you are the walrus, coo-coo-cachoo

This article is seriously confused. Antibiotic resistant bacteria are common because of feeding of antibiotics to factory raised chickens. The sample size is also pretty far off. Studies of Kosher chickens show similar farming methods to the organically raised birds leading to smaller levels of contamination.

This study really doesn't show much because it asks the wrong questions and has not even been repeated yet. The massive egg contamination scare of a while back, for example, turned out in time to have been caused by improperly used testing equipment. That gaffe took years to understand and begin to undo. This seems to be more of same. No one study is a good reason to change eating habits unless there is a reasonable context surrounding it.

.....and farm-raised, antibiotic-stuffed chickens still carry the disease at a rate of 70%. I'll just buy whatever chicken I want and continue to cook it thoroughly, TYVM.

m0llusk:

Hear hear! What he said.

Yeah, because they're not pumping them full of antibiotic, which means that the bacteria are less likely to be antibiotic resistant.

Just cook the damn things!

I_Hate_Iowa: cook it thoroughly

All My drivers are well trained to avoid bacteria and stary dogs.

Mikey Adams

I can't even imagine what it would look like if he were in an accident. Perhaps something like when that whale carcass in Oregon was dynamited.

I'd say, "this is news?", but we know its fark. Perhaps post a Ric Romero pic, but...it's too obvious for even him, besides he's already been farked half to death today. It's called process control folks, it helps keep bad things like bacteria from building up in your food. The parents of a buddy of mine raise chickens professionally (read that as Farmers). Keeping the chicken houses even close to clean is a hell of a chore but it has to be done or the chickens get sick and you can lose most of your investment if not all of it.

/worked a couple of summers there.
//Those are some mean & nasty critters.
///The hypnotizing a chicken thing does work. Heh.

I smell fowl play.

Obvious? Stupid tag is more apt.

Let me think...

Step 1. Spend 40 years raising chickens in factories pumping them full of antibiotics.

Step 2. Antibiotic-resistant 'superbug' bacteria are created.

Step 3. Today, chickens that don't get pumped full of said antibiotics get infected with 'superbug' bacteria.

Step 4. We must keep pumping chickens full of antibiotics.

Yup. A brilliant plan. Wait, where have I seen this kind of self-justifying circular logic before? Let me think... Oh yeah, in church.

There's a chicken looking in my window as we speak.

Deadly bacteria in my farm raised chicken? its more likely than you think

I_Hate_Iowa: I'll just buy whatever chicken I want and continue to cook it thoroughly, TYVM.

Keep your common sense to yourself. This is a hippie/yuppie hatefest.

'organic' food is retarded.
.

"hey, lets grow food with no fertilizers or insecticides!
-"yeah! great idea! it's all natural!"
****a little bit later****
"everybody is getting sick from our stuff! I don't understand"
-"apparently our crops were the perfect breeding ground for deadly bacteria that people have little immunity too but are usually killed off by insecticides and fertilizers!
"DO'H!"

There is no net health benefit received from eating organic food. The only benefit you get is your sense of smugness when paying your grocer more money.

Which is why I'm glad I buy my chicken and eggs from a small, local farmer.

m0llusk
Antibiotic resistant bacteria are common because of feeding of antibiotics to factory raised chickens.

They are. However, being antibiotic resistant uses a lot of energy, and makes bacteria weaker than non-antibiotic resistant bacteria.

Hmmmm...biological warfare? Just get a chicken gun and a superbacteria loaded chicken.

Is THAT what is wrong with the liberals. I knew it was something out of the ordinary. =)

Can't we all agree that this is ?

"It's important to educate the public that organic chicken is not free of bacteria and it's not free of campylobacter and it has to be prepared in exactly the same safe ways that non-organic chicken is."


Y'know... I'm usually one to laugh at the Organic Food Cult, but are there really people that eat bloody bits of still-pink chicken just because it was raised without drugs or vaccinations?

That just seems completely ass-backwards. If I was going to eat raw chicken, I'd want the one that has been marinating in Cipro.

/inorganic foods hurt my teeth

Well anybody with half a brain knows that "organic' and "all-natural" are terms created by marketers to encourage the gullible hippies to spend more money. They are the same people who will take herbal remedies because they are 'natural" but won't take prescription medications. Last time I checked Hemlock is a natural medication and rat feces are as organic as it gets

Can we send more organic chicken to Santa Cruz, Ca? I won't die. I make sure my organisms are killed in a huge vat of grease.

I wish people would understand that buying local is better for the environment than buying organic. The pollution from burning petroleum to ship your organic produce outweighs the effects from conventional farming methods.

Hmmm...who'd have thought that all the medication, hormones and treatments being poured into factory-raised chickens were actually put in for a reason.

It's a good thing I only eat Twinkies and beer or else I'd be dead by now.

Campylobacter!

I got that when I was 4. Apparently my day-care wasn't supposed to let me take turns nibbling on a carrot with our pet rabbit.

Mmmm. Bloody diarrhea.

Lumber Jack Off

No, you're retarded. Seriously. Anyone who claims organic meat has less bacteria is even more retarded than you are. COOK YER DAMN FOOD. Problem solved. Now eat whatever you want.

I blame the pathetic Soprano's series finale...

Farkin' A.J.

National news today:

Organic chickens have more of a deadly bacteria then traditional chickens.

The death penality DOES prevent murders and deter crime in general.

A "suck-it libs" trifecta?

In humans, one of the symptoms of exposure to campylobacter is an inability to make a paragraph with more than one sentence...


Actually, Campylobacter gastroenteritis is not generally treated with antibiotics, as the disease usually runs it's course before the antibiotics kick in.

And I believe the FDA has recently banned mass administration of antibiotics to poultry to combat Campylobacter bacteria.

The chicken I just had for dinner snuck into the US over the Canadian border after flying to Greece for its wedding. Sure it was infected with nasty bugs. But I just cooked it well.

Lumber Jack Off

Actually there are a vast number of organic insecticides and fertilizers that do a fine job. Think of a good (as opposed to snake oil) organic fertilizer as being equivalent to a good, nutritious diet whereas chemical fertilizers are equivalent to vitamin supplements. The problem is that organic fertilizers are hard to use in a huge, factory setting. In a small artisinal farm, well made compost and compost by-products will easily outperform chemical stuff.

Oh, and neither insecticides nor fertilizers kill off bacteria. Insecticides kill insects. Fertilizers make the soil more fertile. The word YOU were looking for was antibiotics. But putting antibiotics in the soil is asinine since the soil depends on "good microbes" in order to be productive. Lack of "good microbes" will mean fewer nutrients will be in useable form for plants, soil impaction and death for such things as earthworms (which depend on those microbes in order to digest rotting vegetable matter.)

Lumber Jack Off: 'organic' food is retarded.

All food is organic. So is motor oil, DDT, orthophosphate insecticides, and just about any other compound with a carbon atom.

"Organic foods" is a marketing term designed to separate you from more of your money.

So if I decide to make chicken sashimi...

If you eat raw chicken, you're going to get sick, whether it's organic or not. This much should be obvious to anyone with a brain.

Addendum: Just like every other human endeavor, there is good organic and bad organic. Some use the "organic" name as simply a marketing ploy and some lack the thorough knowledge required to do it right (half-assed organic farming is no better or worse than half-assed chemical-based farming.)

I blame Bush.

Organic food is bad because people I don't like eat it.

hadamhiram: Obvious? Stupid tag is more apt.

Let me think...

Step 1. Spend 40 years raising chickens in factories pumping them full of antibiotics.

Step 2. Antibiotic-resistant 'superbug' bacteria are created.

Step 3. Today, chickens that don't get pumped full of said antibiotics get infected with 'superbug' bacteria.

Step 4. We must keep pumping chickens full of antibiotics.

Your sarcasm aside, do you have any idea what can happen to chickens if they don't get antibiotics? It's not pretty, and it certainly isn't any more healthy for you. I'm not sure what the solution is, but I do know for sure if we started losing 40% of chicken farm stock every year due to bacterial infections, chicken would be as expensive as steak. College students would have no inexpensive source of protein, and Western civilization would collapse.

OK, maybe not.

Organic food is all well and good, but the conditions of some "organic" farms are worse than the conditions at the corporate farms people love to biatch about.

"I'm John Stossel and I approve of this thread."

/obscure?

Why are all the haters coming out against people who eat organic? I had always thought it was a waste of money until I started to read about the kinds of foods the non-organic chickens eat. It's really just a choice. I'm heading in the organic direction...
But the hating. I don't get that.

Daily Mail's Sean Poulter is an idiot. What a piece of shiat misleading story. This is not journalism.

46 chickens for fk's sake and a study done by a "Tonight With Trevor McDonald" and he reports it as if it were some scientific study.

What a crock of shiat.

Farmers created the world in which intellectuals could speculate. "Organic" was never applied until commercial farms (seed, fertilizer, and insecticide on a strip of paper like cap gun strips of old)wiped out real farms like, well, nothing.

Civilization evolved until just a few years ago. Tom Lehrer was close when he said ,"don't drink the water, and don't breathe the air." He forgot to say, "don't eat."

We're completely afraid of ourselves in a pick-the-scab sort of way.

Buy organic fruits and veggies because they taste better not because you think you're saving the Earth.

If you want to help save the Earth, kill yourself and leave the rest of us alone.

/suck it dumbasses
//And cook your damn chicken!!!

IdgieS your right about the fruit tasting better. Organic canned tomatoes are much much better. Also organic is more important depending on the food. With broccoli not so much, with tofu you really should get the organic.

Poultry trifecta in play

chickens in factories contain much more antibiotics