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(Florida Today)   First he caused an unpopular war. Then he destroyed New Orleans with his hurricane machine. Now he's causing kids to stop reading. Is there anything Bush won't do? (5th letter down)   (floridatoday.com) divider line 162
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2007-06-04 12:05:14 PM  
Bush wins again.
 
2007-06-04 12:07:11 PM  
I am George Bush, and I am getting a kick out of this thread.
 
2007-06-04 12:07:22 PM  
I read to my daughter every night except tuesdays, which was pool league night, until she was almost 12 . We literally read thousands of books together, a lot of Mark Twain, some Orwell and Chekov made it in at the end.

We didn't allow her to play her older brothers video games until she could read for herself. So she found something besides my reading to her that I believed helped her along. Whenever she watched TV she would turn the captions on so that she could read along with the show.
She could read most anything put in front of her before entering kindergarten.
Did it payoff? sure seems like it, finishing 8th grade now, gifted class for the past 4 years, straight A's throughout all of her schooling and 1st chair cellist in 4 orchestras.

Although she's not the athlete that I was, I'm not disappointed in the least. Except for a bit of scholarship money I never made a cent from throwing the Discus and Shot Put.

It doesn't take a genius to see it, but at the tender age of 14 she's certain of one thing as are all of her gifted classmates. Gerge W. Bush is an incompetent fool.
 
2007-06-04 12:07:58 PM  
I didn't want to bring this up but...Bush was architect for the Fark site's redesign.
 
2007-06-04 12:08:07 PM  
stappawho
So when did all the apartments vanish?
 
2007-06-04 12:09:52 PM  
stappawho,

Maybe that works in happy magic land, but here in Seattle if you want a commute under an hour you're lucky to find anything under 300k. And that's if you have time to fix it up.

I commute around an hour each way in order to live in the area that works for us. May people do.

Parenting is about sacrifice. You sacrifice your sleep and your personal time in order to make sure your kids grow up right. If you're not willing to sacrifice, you have no business being a parent.
 
2007-06-04 12:10:15 PM  
First he caused an unpopular war.
This is true and undeniable. But I would also add that it is a "failed, bloody illegal quagmire sold on lies" too.

Then he destroyed New Orleans with his hurricane machine.
This is a typically absurd idiot statement that Republicans like to insert right after a totally true statement in order to taint with a flavor of dubious tinfoilhattery.

A more accurate statement is that Bush callously let New Orleans drown and suffer needlessly by staffing FEMA with incompetent political appointees rather than emergency professionals.

Now he's causing kids to stop reading.
Again, the rightwing nitwit misleads by suggesting that Bush directly "causes" kids to stop reading. Thereby softening very real Republican anti-educationism with an absurd exaggeration

More accurately, the Bush Regime seeks to weaken public education, favoring a privatized version where only wealthy families can afford good educations for their children and poorer children grow up to be illiterate drones suitible only to fight and die in future Republican failed wars.

/Hope this helps
 
2007-06-04 12:13:26 PM  
Dubya killed my snowball bush. And now my pine trees need trimmed back from the road. Not to mention that my yard needs mowed at least once per week this time of year...

Damn Bush. Damn him to hell!

//despise yard work
 
2007-06-04 12:17:52 PM  
I'm not a parent, but one guy at work who has two kids, 9 and 11, I believe, says that kids schedules are so structured from one activitey to the next throughout the week, that they have hardly any time to do anything. Its no suprise they don't have time for recreational reading.

/especially when American Idol is on
 
2007-06-04 12:19:01 PM  
Uncle Karl

The average rent in King Count is $950. Not exactly cheap. We are talking about families with kids, so removing studios and 1 bedrooms is only going to bring that average up.
 
2007-06-04 12:20:46 PM  
Mr. Xhin: More accurately, the Bush Regime seeks to weaken public education, favoring a privatized version where only wealthy families can afford good educations for their children and poorer children grow up to be illiterate drones suitible only to fight and die in future Republican failed wars.

My kids go to private schools because for decades public schools have proven themselves to be next to worthless. I resent the fact that I still have to pay for the crap public schools, even though my children will never attend one. What *would* make me happy is a voucher program that would help pay for the education MY children are actually getting. If crap ass public schools were not so aware of their abominably poor performance, they would not be afraid of vouchers. Since they are, though, they ARE afraid because they know people would move their children to private schools where they can get a proper education.
 
2007-06-04 12:21:37 PM  
Numinor: Dubya killed my snowball bush. And now my pine trees need trimmed back from the road. Not to mention that my yard needs mowed at least once per week this time of year...

Damn Bush. Damn him to hell!

//despise yard work


And grammar as well...
 
2007-06-04 12:21:59 PM  
stappawho
Ok, so lets call it $1150 for a two bed room since your gonna get a place in not the best neighborhood so that you can spend time with your kids. On $50,000 will be fine.

What was the problem again?
 
2007-06-04 12:22:01 PM  
No Child Left Behind sucks and Bush deserves some blame for it. However, subby is right on with his article. Simply put, Bush isn't discouraging our children from reading. The writer of the letter is an idiot.
 
2007-06-04 12:23:57 PM  
sylaak
And this is what the neocons want. This way only the well off will able to afford to have their children educated.

Besides you as a member of society still reap the benefits of public education even if you do not directly get them. Otherwise why would I as a childless person have to pay these local taxes?
 
CLP
2007-06-04 12:24:04 PM  
Is there anything Bush won't do? Sure...

- Cut spending
- Balance the budget
- Actually be, you know, a conservative


/Bush is the most radical president since FDR... and not in a good way
 
2007-06-04 12:24:37 PM  
Turd Sandwich for '08!
 
2007-06-04 12:26:46 PM  
We have neighbors who have a child in the same age group as my oldest son.
At our house, at the end of the day, we all sit around reading books and eating junk food.
At their house, at the end of the day, thay all sit around watching tv and eating junk food.
We are all thin people and they are all fat people. (Obese people, is probably more accurate.)

I think there is a connection here. My theory is: Whether you read or watch tv effects your junk food choices. Which, in turn, has an effect on your weight and general health.

In our family, we are not health fanatics and we firmly believe junk food should be junk. (Shame on those cruel parents who only give their children carrot sticks and apple slices for snacks!) My wife prefers dark chocolate, my son likes sour gummy things, and I like Funyuns.
But the important factor here is that all of these snacks must be eaten with only one hand since you need the other hand free to hold the book. It's very difficult to eat a Big Mac or a bucket of fried chicken while holding a book, but it's easy to do if you're watching tv.

Books are good food.
 
2007-06-04 12:29:06 PM  
My kids go to private schools because for decades public schools have proven themselves to be next to worthless. I resent ...

Stop whining and move to a better school district. There are plenty of fine public schools out there, and ignoring the problems of the ones that are disadvantaged, and diverting funds to private schools is going to make those disadvantaged schools worse.

The solution is to take all the money collected for schools statewide, and divide it equally, so all the schools in each state get proper funding.
 
2007-06-04 12:31:07 PM  
serial_crusher
: This should have been a voting enabled survey to find the worst thing Bush has caused. I heard Bush traveled back in time and caused World War I.

Not counting anything connected with 9/11, the most outlandish claim I've seen seriously suggested was that Bush deliberately used bunker buster bombs in Afghanistan to cause the earth to fracture so there would be a tsunami in 2004 which would affect the Muslim nation of Indonesia.
 
2007-06-04 12:33:47 PM  
I think what's asshatty about the headline is that Bush actually did cause an unpopular war. You're lumping that in with Katrina and kids not reading, which he certainly and very probably didn't have anything to do with, respectively.
 
2007-06-04 12:33:54 PM  
sylaak

I went to a public school, but I did so in Vermont, where public schools are far better than they are in, say, Florida or Mississippi. If public schools could just be brought up to Vermont/Connecticut/New Jersey levels nationwide, there'd be little difference between public and private edumacation. And little need for voucher systems.

/But I suppose throwing half a trillion semolians (and 3500 lives) into a flea-bitten sandtrap, so Dick Cheney's oil buddies can pump out unmetered Iraqi oil, and launder it through Kuwaiti intermediaries is more important.
 
2007-06-04 12:34:40 PM  
mediaho
bikerific: Oh, and now we're greenlighting and discussing letters to the editor?

The OG of blogs.


Some blogs, at least, have a permanent presence and are an identifiable source. This is like commenting on a blog forum comment.
 
2007-06-04 12:38:08 PM  
So not reading newspapers makes one illiterate? And it also makes one a staunch advocate of illiteracy? This so focking duhpressing.
 
2007-06-04 12:39:53 PM  
bikerific: Some blogs, at least, have a permanent presence and are an identifiable source. This is like commenting on a blog forum comment.

So, does my comment on your comment about commenting on blog comments count as meta-commenting or meta-meta-commenting? Care to comment?

/my head hurts
 
2007-06-04 12:48:23 PM  
How can you blame this on Bush? Kids these days don't read enough because they're too busy playing their violent video games! Unless they can't afford them, and in that case, it's the NFL or the NBAs fault for paying professional athletes too much $$.

/troll
 
2007-06-04 12:54:39 PM  
Drunken Grammaton Cleric: alright, which of you is realjd?
Trolling story chats can be fun. People take them WAY too seriously sometimes.

Magorn:
Unfunny: Bush botched the government response to Katrina
Funny: Bush caused Katrina with his hurricane machine.
Which one makes the better fark headline?
 
2007-06-04 12:56:17 PM  
realjd

I'll own up. I submitted this. What did I miss? It seemed like a clear-cut case of someone blaming Bush for the decline in reading among children.

You say "First he caused an unpopular war" as if Bush was not behind the invasion of Iraq.

You're a fking idiot.
 
2007-06-04 01:04:38 PM  
rush22:
I clearly stated he WAS the cause of the unpopular war. In fact, my exact words were "First he caused an unpopular war."

/It's a damn joke people
//Last time I attempt poorly-written topical humor on a Monday morning
 
2007-06-04 01:05:14 PM  
Uncle Karl
Ok, so lets call it $1150 for a two bed room since your gonna get a place in not the best neighborhood so that you can spend time with your kids. On $50,000 will be fine.

What was the problem again?


Maybe that the average income (for an individual) these days is $23,535. So a household with a single income could not survive and both parents need to work.
 
2007-06-04 01:07:30 PM  
realjd

rush22:
I clearly stated he WAS the cause of the unpopular war. In fact, my exact words were "First he caused an unpopular war."


Oh let's all just mix truth and sarcasm to prove an idiotic partisan bullshiat point. No one will misinterpet that and start a fking flamewar over cocking fkstick piece of shiat FARK can suck my ass.

/It's a damn joke people
//Last time I attempt poorly-written topical humor on a Monday morning


But at least it got afking greenlight somehow.SAuhgkjin'
\
 
2007-06-04 01:09:30 PM  
They should start groing more jatropha. If it can grow all over the state them more power to em. that is that much less oild we are importing.

I think i heard the president say that when he was reading to some kids.
 
2007-06-04 01:09:42 PM  
I distinctly remember the media blamed Bush for Katrina. Bush is at fault for all perceived global warming issues. Nasty hurricanes are a direct result of global warming. Thus, Bush is at fault for anything that goes wrong with the weather. For that reason, every badass hurricane since Katrina is also Bush's fault. Oh wait... there haven't been any badass hurricanes in 2006 or 2007, nevermind.

//still waiting for global warming on Mars to be blamed on Bush.
 
2007-06-04 01:12:56 PM  
Action Replay Nick

And also, it's completely possible for a person to work a lot and still be a good parent in their free time.


Maybe, but it is not possible for them to be the best parent they can be and the best employee they can be.

that is why it is best to leave daddie to be the best employee and provider, and let mommie do what mommies do best.
 
2007-06-04 01:15:53 PM  
I went to a downtown Montreal bar this weekend and they had GWB's face emblazoned on their urinal cakes.

So I peed all over George W. Bush's face on Saturday night, and he just kept on smiling. The guy at the urinal next to me kept talking to his target, saying "Turn the other cheek, biatch".

I love freedom.
 
2007-06-04 01:19:42 PM  
What is wrong with teaching to the test?

Don't we want the kids to know the stuff that is on the test?
 
2007-06-04 01:25:30 PM  
Nutsac_Jim:Maybe, but it is not possible for them to be the best parent they can be and the best employee they can be.

Not really. You must be working with some really cruddy parents and/or employees then. Most of the employees I work with learn to manage having a personal and a professional life, and do a damn good job of both.

that is why it is best to leave daddie to be the best employee and provider, and let mommie do what mommies do best.

Which is of course, standing barefoot in the kitchen, in front of the stove with a bun in the oven.

Jeez, when did I step into the wayback machine?

What is wrong with teaching to the test?

It encourages memorization of a topic, instead of understanding of a topic. Critical thinking should be encouraged, as opposed to straight memorization of facts.
 
2007-06-04 01:26:42 PM  
Magorn

That's why you have reading comprehension problems. He was blaming Bush not for causing a decline in reading by himself, but rather, for being a bad example. J


oopsies. Its bush's fault for indirectly causing kids not to read (by example), but Clinton getting a blow job isn't the cause of so many kids getting Bjs in school? (by example)
 
2007-06-04 01:34:12 PM  
The thing about No Child Left Behind is that in the absence of some kind of standardized monitoring of the performance of children we must take the word of educators that all is going well. The educational establishment, by which I mean your high school assistant principal, has a vested interest in maintaining the illusion that all is going well. It's a heck of a fox guarding the hen house situation.
 
2007-06-04 01:40:36 PM  
7of7,
They choose to work 60 hours a week. They have to have their SUVs, their gym memberships, their cable TV, their big-screen TVs, etc. etc.

If you forgo the luxuries, live modestly, clip some coupons, and are willing to work hard, you can easily have the time to sit down with your kids and help teach them.


Amen 7of7!!!

It takes a village to raise an idiot, but only parents can raise a child.

People complain when the government takes too much control, but you want them to raise your children?

Thanks but I will raise my own, and even claim responsibility if and when I screw up.
 
2007-06-04 01:43:23 PM  
I got herpes b/c Clinton slept with his intern.
 
2007-06-04 01:47:57 PM  
ccmods
Nutsac_Jim:Maybe, but it is not possible for them to be the best parent they can be and the best employee they can be.

Not really. You must be working with some really cruddy parents and/or employees then. Most of the employees I work with learn to manage having a personal and a professional life, and do a damn good job of both.


Do a good job, but not the best job. It is not possible to do the best. You just have to decide what is good enough.

Maybe some jobs you can work 6 hours a day while the kids are away and during those 6 hours you can provide all your family needs. Those jobs are few.
You might decide that the daycare gives your kids the same individualized care you would. That makes you either a poopy parent or you are deciding that the kids will get by on that level of care. Either way is not the best.

By the way, thanks for injecting sexism into it. Nobody said anything about keeping women home and pregnant in the kitchen.

If women want to work thats fine. They are smoking if they think the $5 an hour day car is going to give them as
good a care as they could.

good enough = settling.
 
2007-06-04 01:54:27 PM  
Nutsac_Jim
Do a good job, but not the best job. It is not possible to do the best. You just have to decide what is good enough.


Agree with you there. However, "the best" for your kids may be sending them to a daycare as opposed to putting them in a family with a cruddy financial situation. While anecdotal evidence is really looked down upon(and I hate using it), I grew up with quite a few kids who had stay at home moms, but had fathers that made next to nothing at blue collar jobs. Yes, Dad should have gotten a better education, or a better job or whatever, but the situation surrounding that is neither here nor there. I'm sure the kids would have had a better life overall and been better adjusted individuals if they didn't go to bed hungry at night because they couldn't afford to live on Dad's salary alone, or they weren't teased mercilessly by their classmates because they weren't wearing nike shoes. It's a trade off, but to claim that the "best" way to raise your kids is to have a stay at home mom while limping along on a single sub-par salary is shortsighted.

By the way, thanks for injecting sexism into it. Nobody said anything about keeping women home and pregnant in the kitchen.

I'm sorry, how is generalizing an entire sex into a role of care giver and nurturer, while encouraging them to forego their career to "do what they do best" not sexist?
 
2007-06-04 01:54:59 PM  
Before I started my bookstore job I was absolutely convinced that reading was slowly becoming a 'dead' activity for the younger generation. But now whenever I work over in the kids section or I am up at the register most of the patronage is families bringing up books to buy or kids looking for books. Yesterday I had a lady who told me that she revoked the videogames since her kids were having problems with their schoolwork. Since the videogames are gone all her kids want to do is come to my bookstore and pick out books to read. I get very excited when I have parents bring up piles of kids books or when kids bring up young adult novels to read.

As for myself, my mother read to me when I was younger and I grew up to be a book fanatic. My little brother and sister didn't get the same treatment and now they hate reading books.
 
2007-06-04 01:59:58 PM  
sarahelizabeth: As for myself, my mother read to me when I was younger and I grew up to be a book fanatic. My little brother and sister didn't get the same treatment and now they hate reading books.

That might be the key. It's the same way with my family. I was read to a lot when I was a kid and I read a lot (at least when I have time). My brother, not so much, and he doesn't really read for pleasure.
 
2007-06-04 02:06:34 PM  
Nutsac_Jim: and let mommie do what mommies do best

Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
 
2007-06-04 02:26:29 PM  
Nutsac_Jim
What is wrong with teaching to the test?

Everything. You want your kids to know how to take a test, or to learn skills that they'll need in, uhmm, real life? I don't get tested at my job at all, but I sure have to solve a lot of problems.

You should talk to an educator or principal to learn more about this. Teaching to the test ≠ teaching for real life.
 
2007-06-04 03:10:52 PM  
bush caused a 4 hour power outage at my
house on saturday. how are my kids going
to read if they can't reach myspace?
 
2007-06-04 03:38:27 PM  
You really can't blame George. After all, he has his own librarian to read to him.
 
2007-06-04 03:50:37 PM  
What you read online is badly written more often than not, you probably won't learn how to read / write well if that's your only source. And the availability of computers and other electronics means that kids are less and less likely to read books, a real problem.

On the other hand, homeschoolers can usually read at a college level by the time they finish grade school. My opinion is that it all has to do with your parents reading to you a child, and having easy access to interesting books. Dad read us The Hobbit, Lord of the Rings, Chronicles of Narnia, etc. when we were all quite young, so that fueled our interest in reading those things ourselves. Then we'd visit the library and pick out interesting books, starting with the entire Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew series and moving on from there.
 
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