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(Abc.net.au)   "I've stopped worrying about what art is." Good reason to stick $119 million of diamonds in a skull   (abc.net.au) divider line 56
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2007-06-03 08:49:21 AM
never heard of him, but i like it. better than a lot of what passes for art now...
 
2007-06-03 08:50:21 AM
Reminds me of an event they had at our local musem .....some sick nut had used cadavers donated to science in all sorts of "art" pieces .......I guess this thing has been touring the country and has had rave reviews...I Can't understand how anyone could want to see it
 
2007-06-03 08:52:57 AM
So is that jewel-encrusted bra from Victoria's Secret also a work of art?
 
2007-06-03 08:53:23 AM
The perfect gift for the upper class goth kid in your life.
 
2007-06-03 08:54:53 AM
Everything's art. I like Hirst's stuff. If you're going to go with one modern art corporate shill sellout, he's the one.
 
2007-06-03 08:57:59 AM
Who pays for this stuff?
 
2007-06-03 08:58:57 AM
Jennifer
You mean plastination? I loathe modern art, but even I find that work beautiful and educational.
 
2007-06-03 09:01:55 AM
I equate this guy to the "artist" that flings cheese on stuff. Doesn't anybody just paint anymore? I'd rather look at a high school students sketch book.

That said I would love to own a platinum skull.
 
2007-06-03 09:05:32 AM
"Reminds me of an event they had at our local musem .....some sick nut had used cadavers donated to science in all sorts of "art" pieces .......I guess this thing has been touring the country and has had rave reviews...I Can't understand how anyone could want to see it"

I heard it was really neat. I wanted to catch it but couldn't. From what my friend who went told me, it was pretty creative the way he posed them. It wasn't supposed to be shocking or sick.


This guy, however, sounds like a hack. There's nothing I can tell about this "piece" that justifies it be put in a museum besides the sheer expense. It's not creative or thought-provoking (certainly not any more so than a shark in formaldehyde. Doesn't he know you can buy those online?). It makes me angry that because this guy has enough money to piddle away at stuff like this he can get press but there are probably artists who really want to make art struggling.
 
2007-06-03 09:07:20 AM
My husband read this and said:

"What he should've done is to put the diamonds in the eye sockets and a light inside."

Ooh, glittery!

/upper-class goth kid
//well, upper-middle-class
///and in my thirties
////guess I won't be getting something like this for my anniversary
 
2007-06-03 09:14:12 AM
Everything passes for art. A cubic mile of empty space? Art. A collection of random nouns in a urine-stained refrigerator box? Art.

Good art? Now you have a discussion. If I can't physically do it and it's interesting, I consider it to be 'good art' to me.
 
2007-06-03 09:15:48 AM

"...Bah, Yorick, you worthless fool, where are your diamonds?"


www.brightlightsfilm.com

 
2007-06-03 09:24:04 AM
skull studded with 8,601 diamonds, which his representatives say were ethically-sourced. ftfa

wouldnt the piece be more audacious if he used blood/conflict diamonds?...i mean if you are going to use your art to make a statement then make one
 
2007-06-03 09:25:34 AM
Yeah, he could say, now the diamond in the left eye was hidden up the rear end of a native from the Ivory Coast. He had his left leg cut off once it was found.
 
2007-06-03 09:38:44 AM
So, using this new definition of art, if I were to walk into an art gallery, drop my pants, and take a dump, that's art?

Actually, I'd probably get rave reviews for being a bold and daring modernist.

I hate art. It's become more about "weird for the sake of weird" than any sort of expression of....well, anything, actually.
 
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2007-06-03 09:42:49 AM
joepac1
So is that jewel-encrusted bra from Victoria's Secret also a work of art?


NO, but what that bra's covering IS!

 
2007-06-03 09:45:18 AM
Shark in formaldehyde? I think my daughter bought one of those at the beach a few years ago...
 
2007-06-03 09:45:34 AM
Is everything art? Yep, I would say so. Still, alot of it sucks. Just look at Pollock
 
2007-06-03 09:55:23 AM
Jennifer: Reminds me of an event they had at our local musem .....some sick nut had used cadavers donated to science in all sorts of "art" pieces .......I guess this thing has been touring the country and has had rave reviews...I Can't understand how anyone could want to see it

It's not an "art exhibit", it's a science exhibition. I went to it to learn a lot about the human body, and I did.

/Sorry you have such limited understanding of your world. Also, proper grammar.
 
2007-06-03 10:21:34 AM
A $119 million reminder of one's mortality. I approve.
 
2007-06-03 10:29:02 AM
MonkeyChrist: never heard of him, but i like it. better than a lot of what passes for art now...

www.artchive.com

and any farking animal in formaldehyde...but I kinda like this:

metamedia.stanford.edu
 
2007-06-03 10:30:13 AM
I'm guessing the skull belonged to this guy:

www.collectoybles.com.au
 
2007-06-03 10:30:31 AM
I equate this guy to the "artist" that flings cheese on stuff. Doesn't anybody just paint anymore? I'd rather look at a high school students sketch book.

That said I would love to own a platinum skull.


Why do people always equate crap with modern times? This stuff has been going on for centuries.
 
2007-06-03 10:33:14 AM
jmood: Why do people always equate crap with modern times? This stuff has been going on for centuries.

Examples?
 
2007-06-03 10:33:16 AM
GungFu

That shark thing actually looks cool, I don't think it's art but it looks cool.
 
2007-06-03 10:34:48 AM
Unholy crap! It's a Demilich!
 
2007-06-03 10:38:18 AM
It looks to be the sort of thing supervillains always try & steal in "Batman":

"Meanwhile, at the Gotham Museum of Valuable Art, a multi-million dollar jewel-encrusted platinum skull has just been unveiled..."
 
2007-06-03 10:51:46 AM
Jennifer, you're stupid. How can you call a professor of anatomy a "sick nut"? How do you think medical knowledge happens?
 
2007-06-03 10:52:05 AM
Man, that would make an AWESOME ashtray.
 
2007-06-03 10:54:17 AM
My husband and I took our then 4 1/2 year old son to Body Worlds 2 at the Boston Museum of Science in January- it was absolutely fascinating, and he enjoyed it, too. It really wasn't morbid, though I can understand why some may think so. The exhibits are posed specifically to show what happens during a specific action, such as a yoga pose, or ski-jumping. Our son asked a lot of "technical" questions, especially about the cancer-ridden lungs, and the circulatory system display. He wasn't scared, just interested. When I say "technical" question, I mean those such as "why is that lung black and lumpy" and "how does the muscle stay on the bone" as opposed to "Please describe the effects of carcinogenic substances on the pulmonary system". There was a "mother and calf" camel display that really held his attention for a while. I think a lot of it depends on our attitudes about death, and the importance of scientific understanding. Would I call it "art"? I don't know. There certainly was creativity to the displays, but it was primarily an educational scientific exhibit.
 
2007-06-03 11:03:42 AM
Jennifer

All the bodies displayed in the Body Worlds exhibits where given by donors specifically for the exhibits, so it's not really all that sick. I went through them while they were in Denver. It was very interesting, and I wouldn't mind going again in the future.
 
2007-06-03 11:03:44 AM
Because this shiny stuff has an intrinsic value. And wealth is real.
 
2007-06-03 11:33:04 AM
This sort of thing just makes me think how farked the balance of wealth and possession is in our world, when one guy can spend 118 million on making one piece of 'art'... but is that art going to get a better value for that 118 million than that money would get feeding/housing/providing medicine for X number of people for X number of years?
 
2007-06-03 11:55:37 AM
I'm not sure how I feel about some of his other works. I was just reading up on him, and he did one piece with caterpillars inside a glass case that has glue on the inside walls. When the caterpillars turn into butterflies, they get stuck to the walls. I think that's cruel and unnecessary.

But even so, that skull is beautiful.
 
2007-06-03 12:01:32 PM
Nosferotu: This sort of thing just makes me think how farked the balance of wealth and possession is in our world, when one guy can spend 118 million on making one piece of 'art'... but is that art going to get a better value for that 118 million than that money would get feeding/housing/providing medicine for X number of people for X number of years?

I feel a similar way. I would never say, "you have 118 million, you should use it to help the less fortunate" because I have no right. However, this "statement" is just rubbing his excessive wealth in the faces of the poor. Personally, I think the guy is a dicksmack.
 
2007-06-03 12:12:30 PM
Saw this in Maxim

msnbcmedia.msn.com
 
2007-06-03 12:14:36 PM
ertMan

Is everything art? Yep, I would say so. Still, alot of it sucks. Just look at Pollock

Ooh, them's fightin' words, son! Don't make me throw paint at you!
 
2007-06-03 12:20:53 PM
Pseudotype: The scale of his most recent waste is scandalous. 119 million farking dollars!!!

You have a better use for these diamonds? It's not like they're industrial grade diamonds (though they could be used in industry, to be sure), the 119 million price tag is because their use as jewelry. Which is always a waste of money, even when it's not passed off as art.
 
2007-06-03 12:26:37 PM
Nosferotu: This sort of thing just makes me think how farked the balance of wealth and possession is in our world, when one guy can spend 118 million on making one piece of 'art'... but is that art going to get a better value for that 118 million than that money would get feeding/housing/providing medicine for X number of people for X number of years?

The artist didn't spend that amount of money. The diamonds are worth that in their own right. So he loaned that money, with newly bought diamonds as collateral. If no one wants to buy the damn thing, they'll be put in rings, and he's out only the interest on the loan - still a couple of thousand a day, but hardly millions. It's an investment.

The ass who buys it on the other hand..

At least this Hirst fellow, being an artist, will spend the proceeds on cocaine and hookers, benefiting the larger community.
 
2007-06-03 01:31:12 PM
He once said the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States were like a work of art, but later apologised.
 
2007-06-03 01:36:58 PM
skinink

HHAHAHA!

Lolhamlet?
 
2007-06-03 01:40:00 PM
jmood: Why do people always equate crap with modern times? This stuff has been going on for centuries.

I don't know what you mean. Or you didn't understand me.
 
2007-06-03 02:51:26 PM
Eh, it's better than the Mona Lisa.
 
2007-06-03 03:31:24 PM
Interesting, this was worth $99 million on Friday (BBC). Talk about inflation --must have something to do with the price of oil...
 
2007-06-03 03:33:30 PM
And, It is only. about $12-15 million in diamonds.
 
2007-06-03 06:28:16 PM
119M Aussiebucks = 99M USD.
 
2007-06-03 06:29:40 PM
GungFu

ok, i have seen some of his work before. i used to have about two dozen various animals in jars until my wife made me get rid of them, she said they were gross. I had them on my headboard, and the first night she was over my place she happened to notice them during the night...
/ahhhh, memories
 
2007-06-03 06:37:19 PM
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2007-06-03 06:38:48 PM
dammit, that was supposed to be I "heart" Hirst. The continuation of that comment was that I'm also a huge fan of Joel Peter-Witkin, which is not a great way to make friends either.
 
2007-06-03 06:57:34 PM
professor sandwich

I came here to post EXACTLY that. How does one make hearts?

that whole era of art (Goldsmith's College in London in the 1980s-90s) absolutely enthralling, the YBAs and all that. The drama! The sellouts! The personalities! Tracey Emin's menstrual fluid! I love it.
 
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