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(Toronto Star)   Authorities release name of man who knowingly exposed fellow air travelers to rare, deadly form of TB. And, yes, he is a lawyer   (thestar.com) divider line 320
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2007-05-31 04:40:26 PM
ilovedorkbois: Does this not count?

Not unless the State of Arizona counts as the federal government.
 
2007-05-31 04:41:17 PM
"Not that it matters... but he is a registered and active republican


.... just saying, Edwards might not be so bad"



Bwahahahahahahahahahaha...I totally just spit soda on my screen...

//laughing too hard to spellcheck
 
2007-05-31 04:42:51 PM
esteban9
OK, I'll bite...so what's the big deal over this guy, that he traveled on a plane? Wouldn't a few of the other 50 million do the same? Is this a case of media fear-mongering? Am I not a man?


First off, this guy's strain of TB is resistant to multiple medications, not just one or two (usual TB therapy consists for 4 medications right off the bat). Second, he knowingly went against the directives of public health officials and in so doing needlessly jeopardized lives. Third, he's a Southern Republican personal injury lawyer; as such he can barely justify his existence under ideal conditions, let alone after this jackassery.

But yeah, lots of people have MDR TB. They just are confined (huge problem in Russian prisons) or too poor to get around on jets. They have the additional affliction of dying of an unfashionable disease that Hollywood attention whores haven't made a ribbon for yet. They die unglamorously, close to home.

In truth, yeah, MDR TB is a huge problem in Russian prisons.
 
2007-05-31 04:43:05 PM
kates032
Are you implying that most men in Atlanta are cute and gay?

Hold on, just let me get checked for TB and I'll be right there.
 
2007-05-31 04:44:47 PM
I'm a PI lawyer, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies...
 
2007-05-31 04:45:24 PM
GoldDude
Am I the only one who's thinking maybe he father-in-law didn't want him marrying his daughter?
The father-in-law is a TB researcher, and this guy just happens to come down with the worst possible strain?
Hell of a coincidence, or something more sinister?


Well considering the one person on Earth he has most likely infected is HER, I doubt it very much. The people at highest risk of catching TB are the ones who are in close proximity with the infected for long periods. He'd have to be one ignorant fark of a TB researcher to not know that...
 
2007-05-31 04:45:46 PM
I wonder if he infected his wife? And if he did - and it was from oral activities - could she have TB of the cooter?

"Tubercu-Cooter" - I'm trademarking the disease name just in case they discover it.

And claiming the domain name "www.tubercu-cooter.com" - the "com" is for "communicable".
 
2007-05-31 04:45:56 PM
hot wife though
 
2007-05-31 04:45:59 PM
web.archive.org

www.tvsnob.com
 
2007-05-31 04:47:05 PM
Oops.

The immunocompromised and diabetic will be the most likely affected. I meant among the rest of us healthy folks, people in close proximity to cases are the most likely to catch it.
 
2007-05-31 04:47:35 PM
Sir Roderick Glossop: In truth, yeah, MDR TB is a huge problem in Russian prisons.

OK thanks, but I still think if the number of infected people is up to 50 million, I doubt that they're all in Russian prisons. Me smells another media fear frenzy.
 
2007-05-31 04:50:26 PM
I wanna know if this guy was originally booked to fly back on CSA from PRG to YUL or if he did this because he knew he'd be able to sneak into the USA from Canada because they might not have the latest CDC watch list.
 
2007-05-31 04:50:27 PM
esteban9

No doubt you are at least partly to mostly right. But the 50 million number, by my read, could include people who have strains resistant to one medication.
 
2007-05-31 04:51:10 PM
I love how they're so concerned for the passengers he was near. Uh, how about his wife who he was banging the shiat out of? Maybe they should check her condition?
 
2007-05-31 04:51:19 PM
BOO creepy TB guy

HOORAYYYYY BEER
 
2007-05-31 04:53:58 PM
Good Lord.

You just know this douchebag is a Republican...
 
2007-05-31 04:55:49 PM
J.H.Christmas.. Even with regular TB, it's freakin' highly contagious, and the idiot -still- got on a commercial flight to Europe? Sue him for all he's worth, and throw his ass in jail -- it's people like this that need to be removed from civilized society.
 
2007-05-31 04:56:10 PM
Well, I feel bad for this guy.

This man is not some crook. He's a victim of an illness. Can you really blame a man for catching a virus (or possibly bacteria, as the case may be)?

I suppose you can blame him for not following doctors' orders, but put yourself in this guy's shoes. Doctors every day give all sorts of incredibly overprotective advice. (Who here has had more than two beers in a day?) I think it's reasonably possible that this man did not have a genuine appreciation for the severity of his illness. A reasonable person could infer that "we prefer you not travel" means it's not necessarily prohibited, especially for an event as big as a wedding.

And then "Despite warnings from federal health officials not to board another long flight, he flew home for treatment, fearing he wouldn't survive if he didn't reach the U.S., he said." So he went to Europe and then was told "don't fly home". Well, Jeebus, no shiat he came home anyway. You would have too if anybody told you you can't come home from your vacation in Europe. Don't kid yourself.

Besides, what would you do if a doctor told you to live in a bubble? Would you? Really?
 
2007-05-31 04:56:49 PM
Man, he has that "Deliverance" look on his face.
 
2007-05-31 04:57:05 PM
If I was the airline's lawyer, I'd be drawing up papers right now.

And I'd ask my boss if we could join any willing passengers in the suit for free or at least on the cheap.

/not all lawyers are bad
//only the ones on the other side of the table
 
2007-05-31 04:58:58 PM
JokerFoo
I love how they're so concerned for the passengers he was near. Uh, how about his wife who he was banging the shiat out of? Maybe they should check her condition?


Fark her. She knew he had it, the other people didn't, and she still let him go. In fact, I bet it was her fault they went.

"Andrew! If we have to postpone our wedding, it will ruin EVERYTHING! WAAAAHHHHH!"

Besides, she looks like she doesn't put out, so I doubt he got that close.
 
2007-05-31 04:59:37 PM
what an ignorant fark. I hope he gets sued into next year.
 
2007-05-31 05:00:31 PM
Ah, almost off work. One last Dore Image for this guy:

i199.photobucket.com
 
2007-05-31 05:00:47 PM
Came here for The Stand references, was not disappointed.
 
2007-05-31 05:01:02 PM
lumiere

That comment makes you an even bigger douche. Innocent people shouldn't be infected, PERIOD.

Lighten up, it was a joke, hence the /ducks after the comment, you douchebag. ;)

/seems as though someone needs some happy juice.
 
2007-05-31 05:01:06 PM
Omarion:

I have XDR-TB, so I am getting a kick out of these replies...

I will pray for you.
 
2007-05-31 05:01:27 PM
Officials say passengers seated near the man -- two rows ahead and two rows behind -- should get baseline TB tests (only this far away? Both planes have recycled air, it could have been anyone infected!)

I was reading something that said that modern planes have HEPA filters that can filter out the TB bug, which is actually relatively big as those things go.
 
2007-05-31 05:01:38 PM
Actually quite a few illegals coming up here have TB & nobody knows where they are, who they be, they're probably not on trans-Atlantic airliners though...
content.answers.com
"You're my huckleberry"
 
2007-05-31 05:03:25 PM
Kareeshus: Well, Jeebus, no shiat he came home anyway. You would have too if anybody told you you can't come home from your vacation in Europe. Don't kid yourself.

Good thing jet pilots don't have this mentality. "Oh geez, my jet's going down. I think I'll just let it go down in the heart of that city and see how many people I can take with me"!
 
2007-05-31 05:05:56 PM
Well, I feel bad for this guy.
Well, that's just dumb. He's an asshat, a republican, AND a lawyer.

This man is not some crook. He's a victim of an illness. Can you really blame a man for catching a virus (or possibly bacteria, as the case may be)?
Uhm, no. I'm pretty sure that by endangering the welfare of the people on those planes, he broke the law. Besides, he's a republican AND a lawyer.

A reasonable person could infer that "we prefer you not travel" means it's not necessarily prohibited, especially for an event as big as a wedding.

Yeah, because hastening the fineral of every person on the plane, at the hotel, everywhere in between, and the plane home is FAR more important. This guy is an asshat. And a republican...AND a lawyer.

And then "Despite warnings from federal health officials not to board another long flight, he flew home for treatment, fearing he wouldn't survive if he didn't reach the U.S., he said." So he went to Europe and then was told "don't fly home". Well, Jeebus, no shiat he came home anyway. You would have too if anybody told you you can't come home from your vacation in Europe. Don't kid yourself. That there's attorney-speak for "I don't give a fark what I've got. You're not messing with MY travel plans. I'm a republican lawyer."

Besides, what would you do if a doctor told you to live in a bubble? Would you? Really? Hmm, live in a bubble on the way home, or risk infecting countless others with a drug resistant form of a deadly disease... HMMMMM

Dumbass.
 
2007-05-31 05:06:02 PM
This guy is a total douche bag. I am soooooooo happy he's going to be in treatment a long time. IV drip for one antibiotic? Gee, how many veins will that wind up using, as each one becomes "compremised"? Speaking of anitbiotics,this nutbag has'nt spermbanked his boys, as that count is gonna be way low after all the treatments he'll be going through, perhaps never to ever recover enough to reproduce! Then there's the liver issues, with the kind of antibiotics this nutwad is gonna be on....the only safe fluid he'll ever be allowed to drink will be distilled water! This strain of TB may also be the kind that hides-ya think it's all gone, only to discover-whoops! There's another cluster in the lower right lobe of the lung. Oh, and no doubt this infection is much farther along that some are admitting to, especially if a lobectomy has been mentioned in the mainstream press. That sort of procedure if it is used with Mr. Southern Dingdong lawyer, is fairly aggressive treatment, but somehow, I would'nt be surprised if it were done on this really great guy who obviously put his needs before 200 (at least-including his wife) others. She must be so proud of her new hubby! What a catch! What a wonderful, selfless, caring guy!
/Too stupid for New York
//Too ugly for L.A.
///Satan-on line one! The Dark Lord is calling his perfect lawyer!
 
2007-05-31 05:06:18 PM
www.scottsmind.com

Yeah, I'm bored at work... and my experiment with lolhobos didn't work out so well...
 
2007-05-31 05:08:28 PM
I've always thought the expression "DIAF" was pretty extreme, even for FARK.

I've now changed my mind, and I hope this guy DIAF.
 
2007-05-31 05:08:42 PM
Hm...terrorist actions anybody?

Even though he took the shiat out of the country with him, doesn't he violate the anti-terrrorism guidelines by bringing what could be considered a deadly chemical weapon INTO the US?

/hope they shoot him
 
2007-05-31 05:09:14 PM
I wanna know if this guy was originally booked to fly back on CSA from PRG to YUL or if he did this because he knew he'd be able to sneak into the USA from Canada because they might not have the latest CDC watch list.

He knew that entering back through an airport they would immediately put him into quarintine. So he flew to montreal (because Canadians weren't aware he was at risk) and then drove cross the border, since his chances of being waived on through without computer check was good at a small border crossing than at a heavily computerized air port customs.

it was all planned out, yer honour!
 
2007-05-31 05:09:29 PM
Septic Skeptic...beware, he might be trolling...if so, he got me too.
 
2007-05-31 05:09:30 PM
Why do we not immunize against TB?

/was given the vaccine as a baby, was not in the USA
 
2007-05-31 05:10:08 PM
I think the Father-in-Law being a TB specialist at the CDC warrants a little bit of investigation in all this.....


Maybe the man who has dedicated his life to protecting mankind from horrible disease didn't really like the idea of his daughter marrying a self-centered ambulance-chaser.
 
2007-05-31 05:10:18 PM
Hey, waitaminnit! I live near Atlanta & drive past the CDC all the time. How do I add my name to the payout list for the upcoming lawsuit?
 
2007-05-31 05:10:21 PM
Kareeshus:

Well, Jeebus, no shiat he came home anyway. You would have too if anybody told you you can't come home from your vacation in Europe. Don't kid yourself.

They didn't tell him that he couldn't come home. They told him he couldn't come home via a commercial airline, and were prepared to fly him home on a chartered jet to avoid exposure.
 
2007-05-31 05:13:56 PM
Pootie-Poot: I wanna know if this guy was originally booked to fly back on CSA from PRG to YUL or if he did this because he knew he'd be able to sneak into the USA from Canada because they might not have the latest CDC watch list.

You, sir, have gone acronym-mad.
 
2007-05-31 05:14:49 PM
I can almost forgive him for flying to Europe because he did not know yet what strain of TB he had. He was warned that he should not fly, and probably would have been blocked if health officials knew about his wedding plans. However, when he found out in Rome that it was TB-XDR and ordered into quarantine, he became fully responsible. He snuck out to avoid quarantine. Furthermore, the a-hole was put on the DO-NOT-FLY list, but still managed to get on a plane to Canada and through the border. That's the really scary part.
 
2007-05-31 05:16:31 PM
WTB LLAMA FOR INTIMATE ENCOUNTER. PST
 
2007-05-31 05:17:58 PM
PassionateTentacles: He knew that entering back through an airport they would immediately put him into quarantine. So he flew to montreal (because Canadians weren't aware he was at risk) and then drove cross the border, since his chances of being waived on through without computer check was good at a small border crossing than at a heavily computerized air port customs.

it was all planned out, yer honour!



Yeah, that's the extra part that makes him a heaping jackass. It means he was fully aware of how serious his contagiousness was, and kept this from everyone while he traveled this longer circuitous route to try and sneak across the border.

and the US had already offered to help him find a safe private jet to get him back to the US, which he ignored, because he fully intended to avoid quarantine on his return home.
 
2007-05-31 05:18:08 PM
HIPPA is irrelevent in this situation....the fed government does not have to follow HIPPA. You do, citizens of the gulag.
 
2007-05-31 05:20:38 PM
I am really surprised this asshat didn't attend Regent University School of Law.
 
2007-05-31 05:21:09 PM
Plus, the guy said himself "i feel fine and not coughing or anything" as the justification to fly out of the US.

When he finds out, he comes back after being told not to fly. Still without symptoms, because he was scared of the treatment he might get in Italy. He couldn't wait a day or two for the CDC to organize? After all, he wasnt _that_ sick yet.

Oh, that's right, only thinking of himself. I know three year olds with a more complicated sense of public duty than this asstard.

I agree, the father in law working at CDC and this guy getting it is a BIG coincidence, too early to say foul play, but not to early to speculate about a stupid breech of protocol that let this crap out.

After this stunt, this guys career is probably over. Which, I think is just a start of the nasty stuff that he deserves to have done to him.
 
2007-05-31 05:21:57 PM
Mr. Scorpion
I hope somebody finds this guy and pisses in his mouth.


I think if they had Hep C it'd be more appropriate.
 
2007-05-31 05:23:37 PM
dryknife: I am really surprised this asshat didn't attend Regent University School of Law


He wouldn't be some shmuck lawyer then, he'd be deputy attorney general or something, or whitehouse legal council, or on the supreme court.
 
2007-05-31 05:24:58 PM
Raygundan, really? I'll have to take your word they were prepared to fly him home some other way. It doesn't say so in the article.

Thanks for your other comments, all, but I already responded to them originally.

What I'm saying is that the doctors weren't clear to him that he must not fly. Then when he was on the other side of the world, all they said was (according to this article) "don't fly home". This man was given unreasonable and posibly impossible instructions (just how long was he expected to support himself in Europe with no job or visa?). So he did what anybody does when given unreasonable or impossible instructions - he disobeyed them.

If it happens to you, you'll do the same. You're human. Even if it might not be apparent from some of this errant hostility.
 
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