My top ten list:

1. Peyton Manning
2. Drew Brees
3. Tom Brady
4. Philip Rivers
5. Carson Palmer
6. Donavon McNabb
7. Ben Roethlisberger
8. Vince Young
9. Marc Bulger
10. Alex Smith

/my two cents

t-dawgg I don't care how old Favre is, he's still better than half of the quarterbacks in the NFL. This list proves it.

What he said.

Then again, the Bengals were 8-8, so how is Carson Palmer rated so high? They don't look that much better this year

Many of his teammates will be eligible for parole.

Vick is a terrible quarterback, Peerless Price and Michael Jenkins are amazing receivers, Tony Romo is wayyyy better than Byron Leftwich, Jeff Garcia is a top-tier quarterback, and Donovan McNabb is so overrated.

Whatever.

/McNabb is the best QB in the league not named Peyton Manning
//Tom Brady ties for this honor
///Bears fan, so don't call Eagles bias, please.

Phillip Rivers #5? Don't know about that. He looked pretty sketchy in games that LT was quiet in (not that there were many, but...). I can see top 10 maybe, but not top 5.

Vick being in the top 30 is a crime, he blows. Sorry Atlanta fans, he's got a strong arm but the accuracy of a WW2 era carpet bomb campaign. Looks immediately to run if Crumpler is covered, etc...

Favre should be in the top 10, no question. Putting up the numbers he does with the limited offensive talent GB has is a just short of being miraculous. If he took a few less chances and threw a few less INTs, he'd be top 5. Then again, he's always taken a lot of chances.

I call shenanigans. Grossman should be way higher. Don't get me wrong. When he was bad, he was BAD. But he had some killer games. Plus with Hester moving to WR, the Bears will have exactly 3 plays. One running play, and two pass plays.

I can see it now...

Hester: So hey, Rex, is this the play where I go deep? Or do you want me to go really deep?
Grossman: Lets go with #2. Berrian, you go really deep too. I'm just gonna bomb it and see what happens. My defense can bail me out if I really fark up.

It's going to be a glorious season, kids.

Torc:
Uh, J.P. Losman was 11-13th in every important stat last year (yds, TDs, rating). Where do they get 28th?


An_Innocent_Primate:
FTFA: "The criteria: how will they perform in 2007, factoring intangibles such as winning and leadership along with statistics."

The Bills were 7-9, and lost some of their best offensive and defensive players. Then again, the Bengals were 8-8, so how is Carson Palmer rated so high? They don't look that much better this year. Shouldn't the top qbs be looking at division titles and playoff run


The Bills were expected to go about 5-11 last year, while Cincinnati was expected to win at least 10. (Or maybe that was just the # of acquittals they were going for.)

Either way, Losman didn't look that bad (certainly not bottom-of-the-barrel bad), and after they shuffled the offensive line at the bye week, he actually looked competent. Before that, he would take five steps back and immediately begin running for his life. There isn't a QB in the league who could have looked good with that kind of protection. Even so, he still managed to put up halfway decent numbers.

They have improved the offensive line during the offseason, so this will be the year that defines if Losman is a quality QB or if he's a bust.

1 Peyton Manning
2 Tom Brady
3 Carson Palmer
4 Drew Brees
5 Matt Hasselback
6 Philip Rivers
7 Marc Bulger
8 Brett Favre
9 Jay Cutler
10 Eli Manning

I don't know why they'd put players who missed a lot of games in teh top 10. Have to prove you can stay healthy before you can prove that you can play.

Okay seriously what's with the hate on Damon Huard. I mean the guy pretty much rocked out last year when he filled in. Sadly though KC has a history of underutilizing a solid back up QB when their main guy is out for a bit then comes back. Ala Rich Gannon.

Chriss Barr

Well, I tend to agree with you that Grossman will benefit from Hester because he is already used to throwing to DBs, I don't know if this will be anything more than an experiment. Look at Dante Hall, formerly good return man but never amounted to much on O. However, why not, Hester wasn't much of a DB to begin with so why not try and get more out of him than just some good KR?

Also, thanks again for Thomas Jones.

Speaking of staying healthy, I believe Carson Palmer played all 16 games on a re-built knee, arguably rushed back too soon and still threw for 4000 yards and stayed out of jail. I take him over Strugglback or brees any day.

/hell yeah I'm biased!
//Who Dey!

Chris Barr: Plus with Hester moving to WR, the Bears will have exactly 3 plays. One running play, and two pass plays.

I'm sick of explain this over and over again. Sorry to rain on the Bears parade:

When you have an explosive guy that can catch, he becomes a WR.
If you have an explosive guy that CAN'T catch, he becomes a DB.
When you have an explosive guy that can't catch and is bad at DB, you make him a returner.

Devin Hester is a bad DB, but fantastic returner. He can't catch, otherwise he'd be a WR already.
And before you start talking about RB, keep in mind that Hester has 8... EIGHT... fumbles strictly on returns. I wouldn't want him anywhere near a DL that will strip the ball every time he is near...

Hester on offense is a mistake. Pure and simple.

Also, thanks again for Thomas Jones.

How cheap. If you hold this note up to the light, you can still see where they used white out over 'Kevan Barlow'.

As terrible as my Raiders did last year, I'm still glad I'm not a Browns fan.

I love this "Who will be the QB?" pick off of SI. Derek Anderson looks like Christian Slater and apparently Brady Quinn is 14.

If Kitna stays injury-free, I dont see any of these guys throwing for more yards, save Manning, Brees and maybe Palmer. I can see 4200 yeards and 35 TD's.

/25 picks though
//maybe 8 wins

torc

Are you making a serious comparision between Barlow and Jones? I don't recall any Jets fan being excited about Barlow and his avg of 701 yds per season and 3.3 ypc and 9 rushes over he had the past 2 seasons before joining the Jets. Jones brings in an avg of 1273 yds 4.2 ypc and 16 rushes over 20 over the past 2 season. So, seriously, what are you talking about?

GimpyNip
Fort Knox

I don't know what you guys are talking about. I sort of like the "Tecmo Bowl 2008 Offense." All Hail Marys, all the time. Throw in a with a running play with Benson so he doesn't biatch about not getting into the game enough, and you have yourselves a couple Super Bowl rings. You all are just mad you didn't think of it first.

But don't give a ring to Lance Briggs. That'll show him to never listen to Drew Rosenhaus again.

As a Bills fan, I actually don't like Losman but for the same reason my fave quarterback is automatically whoever starts for the Bills.

why are people thinking Palmer shouldn't be rated that high? The guy led the league in passing in his second year. Yeah, better than Manning. He played coming back early from an injury and still performed admirably despite playing on a team with an atrocious defense.

Pintosbiehn: wow. Delhomme throws to the top reciever in the league twice in the past 3 years and all of a sudden he's a bottom feeder? Crazy.

I suggest you get Delhomme for your fantasy team and watch how he singlehandedly kills it, then decide how good he is. He's still living off that Super Bowl run. 2805 yards, 6.5 yards per completion, 17/11 TD/INT ratio is not very good for a veteran that's been around as long as he has and has the great weapons he had.

rh75: If Kitna stays injury-free, I dont see any of these guys throwing for more yards, save Manning, Brees and maybe Palmer. I can see 4200 yeards and 35 TD's.

/25 picks though
//maybe 8 wins

ummm...he's still with the Lions, right? Be ecstatic about 5 wins if they get there.

oh, and as a person who lived in San Diego last year...Rivers isn't as good as certain people in here are giving him credit for. Then again, he has probably one of the worst WR corps in the league, so it's hard to judge him fairly.

Dafatone: Leinart ahead of Favre and McNair?

Sure, they're both more or less ancient, but I think you have a better chance to win with either of them than you do with Leinart.

McNair was not very good at all last year. They could've just kept Boller and they would've made the playoffs AND not wrecked a young QB's development. But since Billick was scared of losing his job, things turned out the way they did.

what's up with the Leinart hate? dude had 2500 yards in 3/4 of a season his rookie year. his passing stats were the best of all the rookies (although Cutler only had a handful of starts). With a competent line and a running game that actually moves the ball, he's going to blow up this year.

astrnomr, Torc

I did not mean to say that Perloff is correct in his assessment, only what would guide him to his conclusions. Personally, I think JP Losman could be a good qb in the league. His protection will be better this year, but I wouldn't expect his performance to increase that much. Even at his best, Lynch will still be a big downgrade from McGahee, so defenses won't have to respect the run as much as they did in the past.

Chris Barr

Well, that or you set the single season record for INTs. Anyway, even if I wanted the Jets to think of doing that they couldn't. 25 yards is a bomb for Pennington.

Alveen: 10 Eli Manning

Manning Jr gave up last year. I saw it in his eyes. He doesn't have near the same passion for the sport as his brother. I don't see him being a top 15 QB for some time.

This list is bad in general. Kansas City, Raiders, Browns, Dolphins etc... does not even know who the starter will be.

As bad as Charlie Frye and/or Derek Anderson are perceived to be, if Brady Quinn starts a game this season, Romeo Crennel will not last past it.

/Keepin' things warm for Bill Cowher as it is...

Nope, it isn't PS'd.

24Gordon

Well, to be fair, does it even matter who those teams Qbs are...aside from KC, maybe? I know there are always several suck ass teams who turn things around and make the playoffs but none of the ones you listed will. I don't think KC will make it back to the postseason either.

1 Jay Cutler
2 Jay Cutler
3 Jay Cutler
4 Jay Cutler
5 Jay Cutler
6 Jay Cutler
7 Jay Cutler
8 Jay Cutler
9 Jay Cutler
10 Jay Cutler

Is it just me or do Bronco fans seem to be a little too in love with Jay Cutler?

An_Innocent_Primate:
I did not mean to say that Perloff is correct in his assessment, only what would guide him to his conclusions. Personally, I think JP Losman could be a good qb in the league. His protection will be better this year, but I wouldn't expect his performance to increase that much. Even at his best, Lynch will still be a big downgrade from McGahee, so defenses won't have to respect the run as much as they did in the past.

I know McGahee was expected to be a top-five draft pick before he blew out his knee, but he was drafted 23rd overall and never really lived up to the expectations. Marshawn Lynch was drafted 12th, so I think it's fair to say that Buffalo expects just as much out of Lynch as they got out of McGahee, with better pass catching skills and a much better attitude. Also, McGahee couldn't be bothered to study the playbook, so he was useless when it came to staying in the backfield to block on passing plays.

GimpyNip
I see that too. What I really don't get is Denver and Denvers fans so hastily and easily discarding Plummer as if he was a terrible QB. Excuse me? Season before last they got to the AFC championship? I don't exactly call that bad news.

/hoping Cutler fails
//wants to see Shanahan cry on TV
///Broncos can DIAF
////go Raiders

astrnomr Also, McGahee couldn't be bothered to study the playbook

Show some compassion, he was from "the U", meaning he probably couldn't read. If the Bills didn't make an effort to help translate written language for him, they showed the same lack in understanding that you are displaying.

Can we give DREW BREES some love? Were you blind last season?

Cmon!

He did so much, with a young (minus L.B.H.) recievers, and has one of the best field presences i've seen (minus Manning)

/wearing my Bobby Hebert jersey today!

InferiousX

Yeah, I am really not sure how I'd feel if my team benched our starter for a rookie and in doing so tanked our playoff chances. I still don't get that move. But, hey, who knows where Jake's head was at, afterall, he did retire.

IAMRight

I totally forgot that Fantasy Football= real football. Thanks for pointing that out for me. And thanks for quoting last season for me, I know what Delhomme's numbers were. Take a look at the two before it, when he had some semblance of a running game and the O-Line wasn't taped together.

Pay no attention to Jason Campbell folks - move along, nothing to see here at all . . .

Come home Lavar.

GimpyNip: Is it just me or do Bronco fans seem to be a little too in love with Jay Cutler?

but but he went 2-3 in five games with a team that WAS going to make the playoffs, but Shanahan decided that it's not about making it to the playoffs! (his words, not mine)

InferiousX: /hoping Cutler fails
//wants to see Shanahan cry on TV
///Broncos can DIAF

Well, at least I'm not the only one rooting for this.

GimpyNip: But, hey, who knows where Jake's head was at, afterall, he did retire.

he retired to make sure that the Broncos didn't profit anymore off of screwing him over. But then the Buccaneers decided, aw, what the hell, we'll trade for him anyway! we need to have 6 QBs for camp!

BlazeTrailer: Show some compassion, he was from "the U", meaning he probably couldn't read. If the Bills didn't make an effort to help translate written language for him, they showed the same lack in understanding that you are displaying.

LMFAO

Pintosbiehn: I totally forgot that Fantasy Football= real football. Thanks for pointing that out for me. And thanks for quoting last season for me, I know what Delhomme's numbers were. Take a look at the two before it, when he had some semblance of a running game and the O-Line wasn't taped together.

Okay, in real football he has cost his team more games than he's won for them since that Super Bowl run.

Carolina has been 15th, 18th, 9th (the season they went 7-9), and 17th in the league in passing since Delhomme's been there. Delhomme's passer rating has been 12th, 12th, 13th, and 14th. He's never had a QB rating of 90 or above. He's a very mediocre QB with no upside.

Daaaaa Bears!

GimpyNip
Yeah, I am really not sure how I'd feel if my team benched our starter for a rookie and in doing so tanked our playoff chances. I still don't get that move. But, hey, who knows where Jake's head was at, afterall, he did retire.

My head would go floaty on me if my head coach who I busted ass for and did well for suddenly gave up on me for a rookie too.

You could tell in those interviews with Plummer. Even though he tried to put on a face and be all "I'm going with the coaches decision." there was a bevy of contempt underneath.

Let's not forget that the only reason that Plummer played in the AFC Championship is because they coached the snake out of him. He played horribly in both playoff games that year.

Inferious

Its only natural for fans of perennial losing programs to root against winning organizations. I hear it only gets worse with time.

Although Plummer had three fantastic years for the Broncos, his play was pathetic last year (I say this with Plummer being one of my favorite Broncos of all time). Shannahan should have stuck with Plummer for the entire season, we could have lost to the Colts, again. After the meltdown against Pittsburgh, Plummer was the natural target for fans and the media to blame. At least Cutler has a full 2007 season and half of the 2008 season before the fans and media start ripping into him.

From his mediocre play last year, Cutler belongs no higher than 20th on that list...

Obviously there isn't much of a track record to base this on, but Jason Campbell is going to surprise a lot of non-'skins fans this year. He's the real deal.

Not a bad list, except for Vick. And who knows if he'll even be a free man by the start of the season.

My list:

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Philip Rivers
5. Carson Palmer
6. Donovan McNabb
7. Marc Bulger
8. Chad Pennington
9. Matt Hasselbeck
10. Ben Roethlisberger
11. Matt Leinart
12. Brett Favre
13. Damon Huard
14. Vince Young
15. Tony Romo
16. Alex Smith
17. Eli Manning
18. Jay Cutler
19. Jake Delhommme
20. Trent Green (assuming he's a Dolphin)
21. Jon Kitna
22. Steve McNair
23. J.P. Losman
24. Jeff Garcia
25. Michael Vick
26. Rex Grossman
27. Matt Schaub
28. Jason Campbell
29. Byron Leftwich
30. Josh McCown
31. Charlie Frye
32. Tarvaris Jackson

InferiousX: You could tell in those interviews with Plummer. Even though he tried to put on a face and be all "I'm going with the coaches decision." there was a bevy of contempt underneath.

don't forget that it started with the offseason. Plummer comes off getting to the AFC Championship game, goes to the Pro Bowl, and then his coach TRADES UP into the first round to get a QB.

Poop_Master_Flex: After the meltdown against Pittsburgh, Plummer was the natural target for fans and the media to blame.

the regular season game or the AFC Championship? The AFC Championship game can be put on the defense too, as well as the first round exits to the Colts.

I remember looking it up for a defense of Plummer a few years ago, I think that over those three games they gave up a TD or FG in all but 2 or so possessions. It's an awful lot to ask of ANY QB to score a TD on every possession.

Mind_Crash: Let's not forget that the only reason that Plummer played in the AFC Championship is because they coached the snake out of him. He played horribly in both playoff games that year.

who's to say they wouldn't have been better with the Snake? Again, he won a playoff game with the Cardinals, which at this point is an achievement far more impressive than winning a Super Bowl.

Hitting Coffee With Drumsticks:
4. Philip Rivers
5. Carson Palmer

As a Charger fan, Rivers is not the caliber QB that Palmer is.

Again, is everyone forgetting that before the knee injury he was as good as Manning while only playing his 2nd year? Rivers wasn't even as good as him last year, as Palmer struggled half the season to get over the knee injury.

I'd say Hasselbeck needs to be above Bulger, and that Frye needs to be above Jackson, but the rest of the list is pretty spot on.

Hasselbeck, when he's firing correctly (hard to do last year with his injuries) is a very dangerous QB to play against, even without Alexander in the backfield. Over the past three years, Hass has almost completely lost his Favre-like instinct of throwing the ball to the opposition. He's much more patient and really reads the defenses well.

My list:

1. Phil Simms (if comeback rumors circulating in my head are true)
2. Eli Manning
3. Tom Brady

IAmRight: As a Charger fan, Rivers is not the caliber QB that Palmer is.

Did you see the awesome back to back comebacks orchestrated by Rivers last season? Strongly disagree with you, Rivers will be better than Brees this season IMHO.