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2007-05-18 01:18:50 PM  
At least we weren't last. Go Vikes!
 
2007-05-18 01:19:32 PM  
God. I was about to say, no way McNabb is #6. VY should be in the top ten though, minimum.

Then I read the list, and realized that yeah, he probably is.

/Brees is probably better than Palmer though
 
2007-05-18 01:20:18 PM  
I'm not sure what was up with my sentence order in that post.

/If only there was a way to read them beforehand
 
2007-05-18 01:20:32 PM  
McNabb and Bulger over Hasselbeck?

Please.



Favre's in about the right place though. Palmer at #3 is too high. Vick in the top 10 is insanity.
 
2007-05-18 01:22:08 PM  
Leinart ahead of Favre and McNair?

Sure, they're both more or less ancient, but I think you have a better chance to win with either of them than you do with Leinart.

With Boldin and Fitzgerald, Favre would have a very good year.
 
2007-05-18 01:25:53 PM  
Grossman was too high - I think he should be about 34 - making him a strong second string QB.

Bear Down
 
2007-05-18 01:26:12 PM  
Vick in the top 10? Yeah that sounds about right.
Not.
 
2007-05-18 01:26:51 PM  
I don't care how old Favre is, he's still better than half of the quarterbacks in the NFL. This list proves it.
 
2007-05-18 01:27:04 PM  
I still don't even think Tevaris Jackson (or however the hell you spell it) is going to be the Vikes starting QB. He wasn't very impressive last year, that's for sure. Of course, Charlie Frye probably won't be starting, either. Must be why they're at the bottom.
 
2007-05-18 01:29:21 PM  
At least we're not last...oh. We are.
 
2007-05-18 01:32:34 PM  
QBs ranked above the Chad Pennington that I'd rather not have over Chad:

Matt Leinart*
Tony Romo*
Jay Cutler*
Mike Vick
Alex Smith
Jeff Garcia
Jake Delhomme
Ben Roethlisberger

*16 or less games played

Big Ben at #7 is ridiculous
 
2007-05-18 01:37:11 PM  
Jay Cutler is fixin' to open up a can of whoopass on opponents this year. It's going to be quite a treat for Bronco Fans!

/Sung to one of the great football songs.
//Ear to ear, he'll cut you ear to ear.
 
2007-05-18 01:39:01 PM  
I also don't see how Vick and Leinart are so high, over Favre and McNair. McNair is a great field general, as is Brett. Give Brett someone to throw to and he'll tear any secondary on the field.

Vick doesn't have the poise, or the command. And Leinart has yet to really show anyone anything. I also don't think Romo has the confidence to be up so high. But what do I know?

/Believe, hon
//God I hate that phrase
 
2007-05-18 01:40:27 PM  
Alex Smith!
Go NINERS!
 
2007-05-18 01:41:01 PM  
Friction8r: Jay Cutler is fixin' to open up a can of whoopass on opponents this year. It's going to be quite a treat for Bronco Fans!


QFT.

/can I be has football season yet?
 
2007-05-18 01:42:12 PM  
A better top 20:

1.Peyton Manning
2.Tom Brady
3.Carson Palmer
4.Drew Brees
5.Matt Hasselbeck
6.Marc Bulger
7.Donovan McNabb
8.Chad Pennington
9.Philip Rivers
10.Vince Young
11.Tony Romo
12.Ben Roethlisberger
13.Brett Favre
14.Steve McNair
15.Jay Cutler
16.Matt Leinart
17.Alex Smith
18.Jeff Garcia
19.Jake Delhomme
20.Jon Kitna

This is obviously with assume future potential factored in. Not who I'd take for one game on a neutral field with no concern for maintaining a franchise.
 
2007-05-18 01:43:08 PM  
Farkn Yaj Yenrac: I still don't even think Tevaris Jackson (or however the hell you spell it) is going to be the Vikes starting QB. He wasn't very impressive last year, that's for sure. Of course, Charlie Frye probably won't be starting, either. Must be why they're at the bottom.

Right now it is either him or Brooks Bollinger. The Vikings have yet to acquire the rights to John Stocco, who the Packers just passed on.
 
2007-05-18 01:44:28 PM  
It pains me to see the Browns QB ranked dead last.
 
2007-05-18 01:47:12 PM  
Yeah, putting Young behind Leinart? BLASPHEMY!
 
2007-05-18 01:47:42 PM  
This is Eli's year.

Please let it be Eli's year.

Please.
 
2007-05-18 01:49:28 PM  
Do they seriously have 14 starting QBs ranked lower than Jeff Garthia?

Yeah, not so much...
 
2007-05-18 01:49:29 PM  
scavenger: Please let it be Eli's year.


Good lord the Manning house must get so awkward at Christmas.
 
2007-05-18 01:53:16 PM  
Fixed

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Matt Hasselbeck
5. Philip Rivers
6. Carson Palmer
7. Donovan McNabb
8. Marc Bulger
9. Ben Roethlisberger
10. Jay Cutler
11. Steve McNair
12. Tony Romo
13. Jeff Garcia
14. Vince Young
15. Chad Pennington
16. Michael Vick
17. Alex Smith
18. Brett Favre
19. Jake Delhomme
20. Matt Leinart
21. Jon Kitna
22. Damon Huard
23. Jason Campbell
24. Trent Green (assuming he's a Dolphin)
25. Damon Huard
26. Byron Leftwich
27. Eli Manning
28. J.P. Losman
29. Brian Griese
30. Josh McCown
31. Tarvaris Jackson
32. Charlie Frye
 
2007-05-18 01:53:30 PM  
undflickertail: Right now it is either him or Brooks Bollinger. The Vikings have yet to acquire the rights to John Stocco, who the Packers just passed on.

I think they also signed Drew Henson again after he got cut from their practice squad last year. That was a couple of weeks ago, though, so maybe he got cut again.
I think I'd rather have Brooks Bollinger out there than Jackson, he has more starting experience, last year when he played he looked about the best out of the three until he got killed and separated his shoulder. The Vikes QB situation is pretty sad.
 
2007-05-18 01:54:10 PM  
recantly

Yes, because those QBs are:

Eli Manning
Damon Huard
Trent Green
Jason Campbell
Rex Grossman
Byron Leftwich
J.P. Losman
Matt Schaub (not buying the hype)
Josh McCown
Tarvaris Jackson
Charlie Frye
Mike Vick
 
2007-05-18 01:54:48 PM  
GimpyNip

I think I'll take Vick over Kitna, Delhomme, Garcia, and Leinart. I know you cant win with a attractive and successful African-American under the trigger but vick's a freak athlete.
 
2007-05-18 01:55:55 PM  
God it's hard to be a Raider fan.
 
2007-05-18 01:56:07 PM  
GimpyNip

This is obviously with assume future potential factored in. Not who I'd take for one game on a neutral field with no concern for maintaining a franchise.

Then why is Hasselback in your top 5? He's never been all that special. And Romo in your top 15 is a stretch. He looked pretty terrible down the stretch.
 
2007-05-18 01:57:16 PM  
Jeff Garcia may not even be a starter... Chris "The Spleenless Wonder" Simms has a legit shot at winning the starting job. Kid throws a sweeeet deep ball and has shown he can stand up to some big hits.
 
2007-05-18 01:58:57 PM  
PowerSlacker 2007-05-18 01:20:32 PM
McNabb and Bulger over Hasselbeck?


Agree. I would put Hasselbeck at number 5
 
2007-05-18 02:02:24 PM  
Favre. The most over rated qb in the history of foozball.
 
2007-05-18 02:02:45 PM  
Wait, we're starting McCown? WTF!
 
2007-05-18 02:04:27 PM  
innocent primate

It was Romo's first season as a starter and he didn't even play a full year. \

Some lunatic has a list a few posts up with Hasselback ahead of Palmer...not that is NUTS
 
2007-05-18 02:08:28 PM  
Roflberger at #7?! Why, I can think of half a dozen quarterbacks better than... oh.

Carry on.
 
2007-05-18 02:11:46 PM  
GimpyNip: Big Ben at #7 is ridiculous

As much as I often agree with you, this one I don't.
Remember how well he did his rookie year? Then the next year the Superbowl? Sure, he played bad during that game, but look back at the Cincinnati, Indy, and Denver games in the playoffs. He torched Champ Bailey multiple times with his 3rd and 4th receiver (Cedrick Wilson and Nate Washington).

Last year, he had his face exploded in an accident, then brought back way too early from an appendectomy. There is also claims he had a fracture in his plant foot...

My biggest beef would be with Palmer at #3. He's top 10, definitely, but since his knee injury, he isn't nearly the QB. Seems rushed. If he settles down this year, though, he could be #3...

Vick at #10 is preposterous, also. Sure, he's a freak athlete, but he's a terrible QUARTERBACK. He can't throw in the pocket, he can't throw on the run. All he can do IS run.
 
2007-05-18 02:13:50 PM  
Well, at least this guy didn't come up with fake rankings for Quinn or JaMarcus.
 
2007-05-18 02:15:20 PM  
GimpyNip: Well, at least this guy didn't come up with fake rankings for Quinn or JaMarcus.

QFT!

I honestly think Quinn will eventually be a good QB, and Russel will be a bust.

/Seriously!
 
2007-05-18 02:16:10 PM  
GimpyNip

t was Romo's first season as a starter and he didn't even play a full year

True, but who knows how much he will develop under the new coaches, at least this year. Wade Phillips is a defensive coach, and Jason Garrett has never proven himself to be able to develop qbs. It could happen, but there's no reason to believe that it should happen at this point.
 
2007-05-18 02:20:57 PM  
Just wanted to point out that they are ranked on their potential for success and accomplishment this year, with their team in their atmosphere. So if you have a running game, you are ranked higher. If you have good receivers, higher. Good line, higher. Better offensive scheme, you get the point.
Why else would Leinart(receivers), Cutler(line and scheme), and Rivers(RUNNIGN GAME/ANTONIO GATES) be so high.
But Vick, McNabb, Romo and Roethlisberger are all bottom halfers.
Romo and Big Ben are at the very bottom of the list.
/NFC East and ridiculous defense?
//Nuff said
 
2007-05-18 02:22:38 PM  
Uh, J.P. Losman was 11-13th in every important stat last year (yds, TDs, rating). Where do they get 28th?
 
2007-05-18 02:25:46 PM  
FortKnox

No doubt about it, he had some big games and even has a ring, but the question about his future depends upon if he recovers to a level close to season 1 & 2 (which would put him at #7). Last year was a major step backwards and he looked terrible in the 5 or 6 games I saw him play. One of my best friends lives in the 'burgh and he was convinced that that guy running around town pretending to be Big Ben had managed to stash the real Ben in a basement and took over his job. I realize he was rushed back too fast but look at how different that team looked when Ben was at the helm and when Batch was? So, I don't know, I just couldn't see putting him any higher at this point.
 
2007-05-18 02:26:55 PM  
Here's my top 10 - I may be a LITTLE biased though ...

1. J.P. Losman
2. Peyton Manning
3. Drew Brees
4. Tom Brady
4. Matt Hasselbeck
5. Philip Rivers
6. Carson Palmer
7. Eli Manning
8. Marc Bulger
9. Tony Romo
10. Jeff Garcia

/go Bills!
 
2007-05-18 02:29:50 PM  
Torc

Uh, J.P. Losman was 11-13th in every important stat last year (yds, TDs, rating). Where do they get 28th?

FTFA: "The criteria: how will they perform in 2007, factoring intangibles such as winning and leadership along with statistics."

The Bills were 7-9, and lost some of their best offensive and defensive players. Then again, the Bengals were 8-8, so how is Carson Palmer rated so high? They don't look that much better this year. Shouldn't the top qbs be looking at division titles and playoff runs?
 
2007-05-18 02:31:12 PM  
Menace to Sobriety: But Vick, McNabb, Romo and Roethlisberger are all bottom halfers.

I agree with Vick, but want some of your drugs for the others. McNabb, yeah, I've heard it... how Garcia was more successful, but he still has a great past.

Biggest question though, is how can Romo and Roethlisberger be bottom halfers?
Romo brought a wretched cowboys offense into the new millenium. And Roethlisberger has a ring (please see my previous comment on Ben).
 
2007-05-18 02:35:42 PM  
Menace to Sobriety

I don't understand what you are saying. First you claimed that that was a list of QBs who have a potential to do well in their offense (so why not just rank the offenses?)but you go onto say that McNabb should be a bottom halfer even though he has the best chance to do well in his "enviornment". So, yeah, that went right over my head.
 
2007-05-18 02:38:06 PM  
McCown is the "starter" in that he was the best QB during the first minicamp. At the OTA this week, Russell demonstrated that he had been studying the playbook and was much more comfortable running plays. I'm not saying he'll be the starter on opening day, but I do think he'll be the guy by game 5.
 
2007-05-18 02:39:43 PM  
And I'll say again, Quinn is the next Rick Mirer. There's a reason he slipped so far in the draft.
 
2007-05-18 02:41:32 PM  
I had no idea that Bills fans were actually enjoying the J.P. Lostman era. Who knew? Well, keep routing for 'em.

/Go Jets
//Thomas Jones was a huge pick up. Thanks Bears!
 
2007-05-18 02:43:17 PM  
wow. Delhomme throws to the top reciever in the league twice in the past 3 years and all of a sudden he's a bottom feeder? Crazy.

/biased, but seriously, wtf?
 
2007-05-18 02:44:56 PM  
Charlie Frye > Tarvaris Jackson

He's got someone to throw to.
 
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