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(Twin Cities)   Last week, my platoon's lead vehicle was hit by an IED. It killed the gunner, SPC Robert Dixon, who was married with two children. He was my friend   (twincities.com) divider line 589
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2007-05-15 11:54:19 AM
Bring them home before more get killed.
 
2007-05-15 11:55:22 AM
T.Durden 2007-05-15 11:51:26 AM
Jake Steed, how did THIS GUY protect us?

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He was 1 of about 500,000 men and women who act as a deterrence to anyone who wants to attack us. He serves, enemy won't attack, you're protected. I hope that is simple enough for you.

Imagine America with no military. comprende?
 
2007-05-15 11:56:18 AM
Of course George Bush is a leftist pussy who betrayed real conservatives a long time ago, so that's not going to happen.


Wow, that was a good one. Gosh you are so Patriotic! Can I have some more of your kool-aid?

If you think GW is a leftist, you are so far off the scale, you must be upside down.


/don't lean too far left or right, you'll just fall down.
 
2007-05-15 11:57:41 AM
Wrong, soldiers risk their lives doing what they are ordered to do regardless of cause.

That is correct.


Politicans decide the cause. Noble is for the historians.
 
2007-05-15 11:57:58 AM
Rest in peace, SPC Robert Dixon, rest in peace.



When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
Marcus Aurelius
 
2007-05-15 11:58:01 AM
Lots of the guys in my platoon don't even give a fark about the war we're fighting. I hear "who are we fighting for today" a lot..
 
2007-05-15 11:58:07 AM
Septic Skeptic

I'm right there with you on bringing them home safe and sound to their family and loved ones. But you would have them leave behind a mess that has not been resolved. And that, my good man is where we disagree. IMO, we should bomb the eff out of them and shout into the rubble "Does anyone else want some?" and should anyone be left alive to utter a reply, we then resume bombing.

And by doing enable a bunch of lunatics to point to what we did and recruit people to kill us for killing them. Doing something like that will only perpetuate the problem.

As far as cleaning up our mess goes, I don't think there is a way to clean it. The issue with Iraq, to my understanding right now, is the fact that the Sunnis and the Shiites are warring tribes fighting over who has the better god. I don't think any amount of troop presence will change that except perhaps uniting them against killing US soldiers. Therefore, it's best to leave not one boot on the ground. I think the best solution is to support monetarily the sane, rational, secular government wanting types. To support humanitarian causes in the region (the rebuilng of hospitals and such) allow the Iraqis to re-build their own infrastructures, instead of handing out contracts to US business, etc. Basically, truely turn the country over to the Iraqis. I don't think you can abondon it all together in the sense of not giving money to help rebuild and whatnot but I see no reason to keep our troops there... unless of course it is to ensure our claim to the oil... which is the only reason they're really still there. It's sickening actually.

/for the record, I'm a woman, not a man
//off to lunch for a bit
 
2007-05-15 11:58:12 AM
Mercutio74 2007-05-15 11:53:23 AM
Is the act of dressing in a unitard and walking a tightrope heroic?

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You are one of the people who fail to comprehend.

/What the fark is a unitard?
 
2007-05-15 11:58:57 AM
RIP
 
2007-05-15 11:58:59 AM
Imagine America with no military. comprende?


Well, we could be all part of the Militia. Well regulated one for a free state.....
 
2007-05-15 11:59:34 AM
jst3p
I support and pray for our troops, particularly to have a speedy return home, but the above statement is so very wrong on so many levels.

And yet you can't seem to articulate any of them...
 
2007-05-15 11:59:44 AM
Jake Steed:

Imagine America with no military. comprende?

Now... instead of seeing everything as black and white, imagine America with a reasonable sized standing army that they use sparingly only when diplomacy breaks down to a level when it's needed.

While you're at it, imagine America with a foreign policy that has a goal of making the US more secure and increasing US influence in the world without angering other countries unnecessarily (as opposed to conducting the great PNAC middle eastern experiment).
 
2007-05-15 12:02:26 PM
Mercutio74, Go spout your ignorant rubbish at dailkos or DU. We're talking about the soldier not the politics. He asked how this soldier was protecting him and I answered.
 
2007-05-15 12:02:29 PM
thatguyfred 2007-05-15 11:58:01 AM
Lots of the guys in my platoon don't even give a fark about the war we're fighting. I hear "who are we fighting for today" a lot..


Is that your Xbox, or PS2 platoon you speaketh of?
 
2007-05-15 12:03:58 PM
Septic Skeptic

There's so much wrong with your post I don't know where to begin.

1. Goth, not Emo. MmmKay?
2. BBC, not CNN. In case you didn't know, the British military are involved too.
3. Just because you train people to kill does not mean that having them do so is good or moral.
4. Who is your enemy? who are we bombing into submission here? There's no army. If you start killing citizens indiscriminately then do expect the rest of the islamic world and probably most of europe to get very irate. And the violence in Iraq to continue getting worse.

For every civillian you killl you've just given one more reason to somebody who already feels like they have nothing to lose to stand against you.
 
2007-05-15 12:04:40 PM
I RTA, the second sentence is a punch in the gut.

"His son needed health insurance, stability. So Dixon enlisted in the Army - and was sent to Iraq."

I don't think this guy would consider himself a hero, sounds to me like he'd be pissed at both sides. One side for mocking his death and the other for trying to turn his actions into more than they were.

He was just a guy who wanted to do good for his kids; and given the choice between Iraq and a nice office job he'd have picked the office jog. Things being as there were he went to Iraq, but he didn't go to Iraq to kill Iraqis or do bad things.

Let's leave it a that.
 
2007-05-15 12:04:53 PM
Albert:

You are one of the people who fail to comprehend.

No, I am not. I invite you to enlighten me if you disagree.

And this... is a unitard...

i165.photobucket.com
 
2007-05-15 12:05:17 PM
rip
 
2007-05-15 12:05:23 PM
T.Durden:
maybe if military service WASN'T voluntary we wouldn't be in this mess. When the children of the president and his cronies are in danger I bet they take more diplomatic measures.
Nope, the draft just ensures that people like you get into the military, and eats away at morale like cancer. I can just imagine you debating and debating your little heart out over whether or not the invasion was legal right before you get blown up by one of those innocent iraqis. Something tells me you ain't cut out for soldiering, boy so stick to being an internet tough guy.

And why should I respect the military?
Because if ever a country were foolhardy enough to attempt an invasion of the United States, these are the men and women who will save your ass. These are the people who go into harm's way to ensure that you can still be an internet tough guy.
 
2007-05-15 12:05:40 PM
wow, I love these threads. Somebody dies in iraq and people yell at each other.

glad all is normal in the world
 
2007-05-15 12:05:41 PM
dave2198: Your mom called from upstairs. Your bowl of Count Chocola is ready. Be sure to finish it before the schoolbus gets to your house...

The jokes on you, it was lucky charms.
 
2007-05-15 12:09:16 PM
I'm sorry for his family and friends.

I hope we as Americans remember how many people we sent to die because we were too scared after 9/11 to reign in our own government.

I hope that we remember that many of those who voted to support this war are still in office- some running for President.

Remember the dead, American or otherwise, when you cast a vote.
 
2007-05-15 12:09:57 PM
wow, I love these threads. Somebody dies in iraq and people yell at each other.

glad all is normal in the world



It's not really a new concept.

Somebody dies in Vietnam and people yell at each other.
Somebody dies in Korea and people yell at each other.
Somebody dies in Germany and people yell at each other.
Somebody dies in France and people yell at each other.
Somebody dies in Africa and people yell at each other.
Somebody dies in Gettysburg and people yell at each other.
Somebody dies in Mexico and people yell at each other.
Somebody dies in (insert country, place) and people yell at each other.....
 
2007-05-15 12:11:47 PM
Jake Steed:

Go spout your ignorant rubbish at dailkos or DU. We're talking about the soldier not the politics. He asked how this soldier was protecting him and I answered.

And I responded to your post and suggested that you're oversimplifying. You see... this is a message board. And on a message board you read what other people write ("post" if you will) then, if you're a member you may make a comment. Either of your own inspiration or as a response to someone else's "post". Generally this is referred to as a "thread".

The soldier in question is part of the armed forces, commanded by the president to be in Iraq. I'm sure if the decision was left up to him, he would have probably preferred to stay home with his family. He was killed in a war, that is a political death.

And if my rubbish is ignorant, linguists are going to have to invent a word to classify your rubbish.
 
2007-05-15 12:13:10 PM
Something tells me you ain't cut out for soldiering, boy so stick to being an internet tough guy.


I try not to be an internet tough guy, but your comma is in the wrong place.

/ducking...
 
2007-05-15 12:15:08 PM
The FARK thread: Where ignorance and knee-jerk reaction meets to form a few sentences that confirm the writer's absolute stupidity.
 
2007-05-15 12:16:38 PM
So sorry for your loss.
 
2007-05-15 12:16:46 PM
phartnocker:

The FARK thread: Where ignorance and knee-jerk reaction meets to form a few sentences that confirm the writer's absolute stupidity.

Look! A self-proving statment

/Couldn't help myself
//Why post if you're so disgusted?
 
2007-05-15 12:16:46 PM
My condolences to all who knew him.
 
2007-05-15 12:18:39 PM
RIP, soldier.

A good soldier follows orders.
A good citizen makes sure those orders are sound by holding government accountable.

I have yet to meet the servicemember who did not understand that they are fighting for all of us....meaning those that support the war and those that do not. They get it....many of you posting here today do not.

/hate the game, not the player
 
2007-05-15 12:20:05 PM
rob.d: I don't think this guy would consider himself a hero, sounds to me like he'd be pissed at both sides. One side for mocking his death and the other for trying to turn his actions into more than they were.

He was just a guy who wanted to do good for his kids; and given the choice between Iraq and a nice office job he'd have picked the office jog. Things being as there were he went to Iraq, but he didn't go to Iraq to kill Iraqis or do bad things.


Logic FTW

Of the people I know who joined the military, I'd say 75% of them were doing it for reasons outside of service or patriotism. Coming from a small industrial town, most of these kids couldn't afford college or just weren't bright enough to do much more than work in an auto plant, so they chose the military.

I admire their courage and their desire to better themselves and their families, but I'm not so blindly patriotic to think they're all doing it to look after me and my freedoms and the good ol' U S of A.
 
2007-05-15 12:21:16 PM
golo606 Thanks for keeping people honest, which pisses them off. Seriously, thank you.
 
2007-05-15 12:22:18 PM
Andric [TotalFark] 2007-05-15 11:59:34 AM


And yet you can't seem to articulate any of them...


Big difference between "can't" and "won't". You don't understand what is wrong with the statement you made previously. That's fine. I don't have the time to teach you, nor the interest.
 
2007-05-15 12:22:23 PM
smack4u

The things some people will submit themselves to just to get a greenlight.

Hey, if my preferred form of grieving is parading my friend's dead body around the Internet to score political points, who are you to judge?
 
2007-05-15 12:24:33 PM
nordicgod: I came across this some time back and I wish I knew who the writer was to give credit...

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Daddy's Poem


Oh my god. That hurt so much to read. But I couldn't stop.

Fark the politics, fark the politicans, fark the oil, fark Haliburton, and fark this totally farked up situation.

I'm sorry for the loss. It is just so horrible. Not just this one, but everyone. Military and civilian alike.
 
2007-05-15 12:24:33 PM
Of the people I know who joined the military, I'd say 75% of them were doing it for reasons outside of service or patriotism. Coming from a small industrial town, most of these kids couldn't afford college or just weren't bright enough to do much more than work in an auto plant, so they chose the military.

I admire their courage and their desire to better themselves and their families, but I'm not so blindly patriotic to think they're all doing it to look after me and my freedoms and the good ol' U S of A.




Bingo.

I did six years, got me started on a good education and helped me get my life going in the right direction. LOTS AND LOTS of people just like me did it for the job/education. Few that I met did it for the glory.

That doesn't mean I don't appreciate what they are doing. However, do not kid yourself thinking all the kids over there are fighters of freedom.
 
2007-05-15 12:24:46 PM
Yeah, the people who live there and aren't getting paid for it got killed don't matter a damn. This one guy who came there from 10,000 miles away with body armour and air cover backup is all-important.

3,500-odd volunteer foreign soldiers die and we have vigils and flags and ribbons. Hundreds of thousands of local civilians slaughtered and blown up and who gives a damn.
 
2007-05-15 12:25:41 PM
Jon Snow:

we were too scared after 9/11



Well, maybe you were scared after 9/11, I wasn't.

Nice name by the way, I hope he recovers from his illness.
 
2007-05-15 12:26:08 PM
"With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as
God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in;
to bind up the nation's wounds; to care for him who shall have borne the battle,
and for his widow and his orphan - to do all which may achieve and cherish a
just and lasting peace, among ourselves, and with all nations."
Abraham Lincoln
Source: March 4, 1865 - Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address
 
2007-05-15 12:26:36 PM
img255.imageshack.us
 
2007-05-15 12:28:01 PM
I'm over it now
Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.

QFT. thats why im doing it.

dave2198
tact [takt]-noun
1. a keen sense of what to say or do to avoid giving offense; skill in dealing with difficult or delicate situations.
2. a keen sense of what is appropriate, tasteful, or aesthetically pleasing; taste; discrimination.
-Synonyms 1. perception, sensitivity; diplomacy, poise.

-Antonyms 1. img.fark.com
 
2007-05-15 12:28:45 PM
RIP Soldier.

/May God have mercy on the souls of those responsible.
 
2007-05-15 12:30:00 PM
RIP SPC Rowan Dale Walter
/cousin
 
2007-05-15 12:33:20 PM
jst3p
Big difference between "can't" and "won't". You don't understand what is wrong with the statement you made previously. That's fine. I don't have the time to teach you, nor the interest.

A-ha. Translation: "Your statement rubs me the wrong way, but I can't justify that feeling with words."

It was a simple statement, no deep meaning behind it. Our responsibility is such that in the eyes of a "beneficiary of our liberation", one American is as good as another, regardless of professed politics.
 
2007-05-15 12:34:49 PM
i43.photobucket.com

Yeah, it's corny, but these guys are just like superheroes to me.

RIP, SPC Dixon.
 
2007-05-15 12:36:07 PM
I think that everyone should have to go to boot camp. They don't necessarily have to join the service, but they should at least go to boot camp. I think we'd all have a lot more respect for the armed services that way. Whatever your reasons for joining, they change. All of a sudden it's not about college money or insurance. It becomes about your fellow soldier, about your uniform, about the anthems, abuot the hisotry. They all become pieces of your heart you can touch, and when a comrade dies, it's not about whether or not you know him becuase s/he becomes a piece of your heart you can no longer touch.
 
2007-05-15 12:36:18 PM
Wild Bluebonnet

The country as a whole. Not me personally.
 
2007-05-15 12:39:51 PM
No, he wasn't a hero; he was somebody who volunteered for the army and died when an IED hit his Humvee and I'm sorry for that loss.
But let's save the word Hero for people like Marine Cpl. Jason L. Dunham who died in 2004 when he covered a grenade with his helmet to save his fellow Marines.
Or for Sgt. Rafael Peralta, who, mortally wounded, smothered an enemy hand grenade with his body and saved his fellow Marines from a blast in Fallujah, 2004.
Being a member of the Armed Forces, Pfc. Robert Dixon would likely prefer saving the Hero label for those who did heroic acts.
 
2007-05-15 12:40:06 PM
Jake He was 1 of about 500,000 men and women who act as a deterrence to anyone who wants to attack us. He serves, enemy won't attack, you're protected. I hope that is simple enough for you.

So, if somebody were to attack America directly, what would this guy have done to protect us... in Iraq?
 
2007-05-15 12:40:37 PM
It becomes about your fellow soldier, about your uniform, about the anthems, abuot the hisotry. They all become pieces of your heart you can touch

Initiation and indoctrination. Most people who have taken Intro to Psych can explain to you why this works and why it can have the same effect whether you are talking about a Marine or an SAE pledge class full of date rapists.
 
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