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(CBC)   Toronto municipal employees banned from using Facebook, but city councillors exempt themselves from the ban because they need to communicate with constituents, especially hot young female ones with low self-esteem   ( cbc.ca) divider line
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2007-05-10 04:27:23 PM  
Other websites already deemed unacceptable and banned by the city include pornography sites, gambling sites and the video-sharing website YouTube.


Congratulations, Fark, on once again evading bannination.
 
2007-05-10 04:29:30 PM  
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I'd facebook with Councillor Bussin after a few Canadian beers.
Well may 7 or 8.
 
2007-05-10 04:37:47 PM  
especially hot young female ones with low self-esteem


Why can I not find any of these...
 
2007-05-10 04:45:03 PM  
I would assume that would include the police... which is strange as Facebook is useful from time to time during investigations.

/that's right kids, keep posting pictures of yourself drinking underage...
 
2007-05-10 04:48:35 PM  
colovion: /that's right kids, keep posting pictures of yourself drinking underage...

I'm sure that's the very least of the crimes the cops are looking for on Facebook.
 
2007-05-10 05:10:20 PM  
colovion: that's right kids, keep posting pictures of yourself drinking underage...

As long as they don't post pictures of them drinking in bars, or buying booze, there's nothing the police can do.
 
2007-05-10 05:10:34 PM  
Teambaylagoon: especially hot young female ones with low self-esteem

Why can I not find any of these...


They're all on Myspace. Facebook is useless for hookups.
 
2007-05-10 05:39:45 PM  
Do they not have freedom of speech in Canada? How is this legal? Or is it just that they're banned from using it at work? In which case, why not just firewall it?

/drtfa
 
2007-05-10 05:41:18 PM  
Never heard of facebook. Is that anything like Bain De Soleil?

Bain de Soleil for the San Tropez face tan....
 
2007-05-10 05:41:58 PM  
Here comes the herd of people saying this kind of thing is just fine because you can always get a job elsewhere.
 
2007-05-10 05:42:14 PM  
Bastiat's Last Disciple: Or is it just that they're banned from using it at work?

Bingo.

In which case, why not just firewall it?

Which is exactly what they did.

/drtfa

Maybe you should have.
 
2007-05-10 05:44:58 PM  
colovion:

"no officer that was not alcohol in that bottle, it was a prop, prove otherwise...oh you mean you dont have any proof i was actually drinking alcohol, have yourself a nice day"
 
2007-05-10 05:45:20 PM  
Bastiat's Last Disciple: ftfa
Following in the footsteps of Queen's Park and Parliament Hill, the City of Toronto has banned its employees from using the social networking site Facebook on work computers.

and its not firewalled because, also ftfa,

"Politicians, however, are exempt from the ban because they use Facebook to communicate with their constituents, said city spokesman Brad Ross."

However I believe that the politicians should be banned as well. Municipal government is nothing more than a busy work project for people too mentally handicapped, or just plain bat shiat crazy, for real life in Canada. As such I think inflicting that on Facebook is unfair.
 
2007-05-10 05:45:36 PM  
Tweekster
Do you disagree with that statement? Do you feel that an employer does not have the right to regulate behavior at the workplace?
 
2007-05-10 05:46:09 PM  
but city councillors exempt themselves from the ban because they need to communicate with constituents, especially hot young female ones with low self-esteem

Like they couldn't take the bus to a bar in Mississauga.
 
2007-05-10 05:46:20 PM  
On Facebook, members have profile pages where they can post photographs, write about their interests, join groups, create events and send private or public comments.

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2007-05-10 05:47:28 PM  
NeoKhan:

See, instead of trying to stop people from doing things like that, hire people that wont do those things in the first place (or that do it to such a low degree that it doesnt matter)

It is much easier to hire good people that dont waste time (where it becomes a problem) than to make rules about it... (that everyone largely ignores mind you)
 
2007-05-10 05:51:50 PM  
tweekster See, instead of trying to stop people from doing things like that, hire people that wont do those things in the first place

Yes! Great idea, and maybe we can have some thing that will tell people we don't want them to do it. Yea, like a sign, no thats too much work, how about a simple rule. Great idea!
 
2007-05-10 05:52:24 PM  
from Myspace to my place

/got nothing
 
2007-05-10 05:54:19 PM  
Actually I do communicate with my representative in Congress via Facebook. I actually get a response back that doesn't include a form letter
/and yes I am getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2007-05-10 05:55:09 PM  
Torc:

Like they couldn't take the bus to a bar in Mississauga.

You mean Mississauga aka Menopause Manor.
Snorefest.
 
2007-05-10 05:55:23 PM  
/Queue lolcats image with caption: "We're in your workplace, banning your internetz"
 
2007-05-10 05:58:52 PM  
tweekster
Here comes the herd of people saying this kind of thing is just fine because you can always get a job elsewhere.

This kind of thing is just fine because you can always get a job elsewhere, like flipping burgers or working in radio.
 
2007-05-10 05:58:56 PM  
EvilClone:

If you actually need to have a rule about facebook specifically, you have some pretty bad employees hired to begin with. Fire them, fire HR and start fresh.
 
2007-05-10 06:02:41 PM  
tweekster: depending on the type of work it is, it might be easier for them to just go ahead with banning this site (easy enough to block it) instead of hiring new employees, training them, etc. The lost productivity from firing/hiring process might be greater than the productivity lost from these employees currently. And giving them a second chance might actually work.
 
2007-05-10 06:04:28 PM  
I don't suppose anyone has pics of hot young female with low self-esteem? Just an rhetorical question, mind you.
 
2007-05-10 06:06:50 PM  
It's banned (ie, blocked) from WORK computers. There's nothing in the article about banning them from using facebook on their own time from their own machines.
 
2007-05-10 06:07:44 PM  
EvilClone: and its not firewalled because,

Firewalls (or more precicely content-blocking services) do not have to have an all-or-nothing rule. You can set groups with varying decrees of privilege and permissions.
 
2007-05-10 06:09:03 PM  
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2007-05-10 06:17:15 PM  
Flab oh yes I am aware of that. I did mention however that level of government is simply a way to keep out patients from the local mental facility from doing any major damage to person or property.

/damn them getting real power slowly.
 
2007-05-10 06:27:07 PM  
tweekster 2007-05-10 05:58:56 PM

If you actually need to have a rule about facebook specifically, you have some pretty bad employees hired to begin with. Fire them, fire HR and start fresh.


You can always tell who the 17 year olds with no real world experience are on here.
 
2007-05-10 06:31:03 PM  
tweekster, you are hilarious. FanTASTIC sendup. Please stay in character as long as you can hold out. Thanks!
 
2007-05-10 07:08:38 PM  
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These agencies? ...having something to do with Facebook? no way!

Facebook - watching your every move - article definitely worth a read

Only in America would there be a massive surveillance tool that people would volunteer all of their personal information to.

Until last year, every college student that joined the Facebook network had to be verified by their school e-mail address - hmmmmmmmm.

Check out the privacy policies at Facebook.
An excerpt: "Removed (profile) information may persist in backup copies for a reasonable period of time but will not be generally available to members of Facebook."


/loves Facebook - uses caution
//keeps an empty profile and doesn't use messaging function
///can't understand why people put every detail of their lives on the thing
////Facebook still doesn't top GOOGLE as the scariest data miner
 
2007-05-10 07:35:03 PM  
"This kind of thing is just fine because you can always get a job elsewhere, like flipping burgers or working in radio."

When I did the fast food thing in high school, I didn't get a whole lot of Internet time on the job. My brother actually does work at a radio station, and has plenty of time on his shifts to fool around online. He says that there is no job satisfaction greater than having his boss walk in on him playing games online, and offering advice.

/Getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2007-05-10 07:40:34 PM  
*checks facebook profile*
Nope! No illegal activity on here!
People are just asking for trouble when they post pics of bongs and everclear bottles

/although I do have hoverkitten as my pic
//sez wrrrrrr
 
2007-05-10 07:52:04 PM  
"Politicians, however, are exempt from the ban because they use Facebook to communicate with ----- ----tit----s, said city spokesman Brad Ross."


/FTFBR
//why can't I get the "del" command to work on here?
 
2007-05-10 09:37:56 PM  
Quite frankly, if your employees can't be trusted to not waste their hours browsing Facebook, they should be fired. Banning it is stupid.
 
2007-05-10 10:34:48 PM  
I just seen on the news yesterday that there are over 500,000 people in Toronto who use facebook. There are about 7M in the Greater Toronto Area, which works out 1 out of every 14 people. Considering there are thousands upon thousands of municipal employees in Toronto 1 of 14 could work out to 100's upon 100's of employees prevented from wasting time facebooking on the taxpayers dime. Seems quite reasonable, especially in a city like Toronto which is constantly being blackmailed by unions.
 
2007-05-10 11:03:37 PM  
devioustrevor I'm mostly responsible for facebook membership in the Aurora area. I met some Canadian highschool girls on a cruise. It sounds worse the more I try to explain...
 
2007-05-11 05:54:02 AM  
my company just blocked it too. fascitsts.

"Does it serve a purpose that a city staff, city employee have access to Facebook? Does it do anything for the city? The answer would have to be no."

does it serve a purpose for any employee to have facebook access? probably not. except for this small silly thing called workplace morale...

now i used to use facebook before they blocked it, for about the same time that my smoking collegues would spend smoking during the day.

It's a question of integrity really. if you can't be trusted to not waste your time while at work, then it doesnt matter what sites you block. lazy people will always find ways to skimp. it's a kindergarden mentality really, you can't be trusted to do your job. a little downtime on facebook can mean alot to keep you going on a rough day.

regardless, treating 23,000 employees as children is kinda insulting. otoh, the sheep are too daft and subservient to do or say anything about it.
 
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