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2007-05-08 05:06:49 PM  
Ultraviolet Catastrophe
Gooseycheeks

That's assault with a motor vehicle? But I thought when two vehicles get in an accident, it's known as a fender bender.

Wow, does anyone around here speak English? An accident is an unintentional occurrence. You are talking about hitting someone with your car intentionally. That's a crime whether your intended victim is on a bike, in a car, or on foot.


Ok, so you win the legal battle. Unfortunately you're dead. I guess we'll call it a wash. Congratulations, you proved your point.
 
2007-05-08 05:07:17 PM  
moops

Well, he could go "80 year old in farmer's market" at the CM, but I think that would end badly.
 
2007-05-08 05:08:22 PM  
God, I love getting pretentious, panty wearing asshole bicyclists up in a bunch
 
2007-05-08 05:08:40 PM  
gooseycheeks is my name and
I served on the farklite train
till floridian's army came
and tore up the tracks again
 
2007-05-08 05:08:46 PM  
Toronto should be in America, where is belongs.

/late
//I have a note from the doctor
///and the traffic was bad
////this cyclist attacked me, and I had to defend myself
 
2007-05-08 05:09:08 PM  
Ok, so you win the legal battle. Unfortunately you're dead. I guess we'll call it a wash.

And you're in prison for negligent vehicular homicide. Getting raped.
 
2007-05-08 05:09:11 PM  
floridian62: Do not farking threaten to run me over.

keep up or move.
 
2007-05-08 05:10:36 PM  
Gooseycheeks mom used to finger his anus,
pay him no mind.
Ever since he has had a thing for being
ass raped in public
 
2007-05-08 05:11:36 PM  
Lay on the horn and I WON'T get out of your way. You won't be able to do anything about it but rant and biatch.

You really want some idiot in a truck to start road raging on you, while you're all exposed on a bicycle?
 
2007-05-08 05:11:45 PM  
Do you realize how hypocritical I just made all of you bicyclists look? When I flipped the roles on you and made it appear as though motorists are the righteous ones, you flip out and have a heart attack. God it's humorous.
 
2007-05-08 05:11:59 PM  
FriarTuck
Please explain how a car which is larger than a bike and stops slower can "Cause" a bicycle to hit it's rear fender.

It's possible. If the car does something unexpected and the bikie isn't suspicious enough of driver perfidy. A friend of mine and I were riding home from work, about 8:00am (third shift) down a four lane, divided boulevard. I saw the old lady in the oncoming traffic look like she wasn't going to stop before making a left turn but my friend who hadn't been riding as long had his bike-fu fail him. We were clipping along pretty good with a tailwind and I guess she underestimated our speed. I stopped about a foot from her, he hit her fender at about 10mph and went over the hood and his Panasonic ended up under her right, rear wheel. He got a big lump on his shin and a better bike. She got a dented fender and a maybe a raise in her insurance rate.
 
2007-05-08 05:12:04 PM  
Moops

Know what works better than Shimano shoe cleats? Aerostich Combat Touring Boots. And, coincidentally, motorcyclists can kick too.

I've kicked more than a few cars in my time because they're in the process of trying to run me over while I was obeying the law. I've also knocked on windows (surprisingly that has more of an effect of making them realize there ARE humans outside the car). The only reason I haven't kicked a bicyclist is because when they do things that are dangerous AND illegal I'm curious if they'll go squish-crunch or crunch-squish with those thick heads of theirs.

I'm all for defending your rights as a two-wheeled rider. But they're rights, abuse those rights, and sooner or later you'll be hurt. If you're lucky, you'll be alive to sue. But we're not lucky, usually.
 
2007-05-08 05:12:09 PM  
God, I love getting pretentious, panty wearing asshole bicyclists up in a bunch

That's usually how it works when you are afflicted with Little Man Disease. And a small weener.
 
2007-05-08 05:12:49 PM  
Gooseycheeks:

Yeah but what does that have to do with the molestation you experienced as a child?
 
2007-05-08 05:12:59 PM  
Its annoying when I get stuck behind somebody driving 35mph in a 60mph no-passing zone, but I don't go psycho. I think that some of you need to take some Xanax or something.
 
2007-05-08 05:13:15 PM  
moops [TotalFark] 2007-05-08 05:09:08 PM
Ok, so you win the legal battle. Unfortunately you're dead. I guess we'll call it a wash.

And you're in prison for negligent vehicular homicide. Getting raped.


Highly doubtful. If I was going to run you over I would:
1. make sure you're dead
2. do it when there's no witnesses around.
3. I win!
 
2007-05-08 05:13:43 PM  
Gooseycheeks 2007-05-08 05:01:26 PM
We have supreme power over you on the roads, you exist because we allow you to exist.

This brings to mind a very interesting discussion I had just yesterday about possible motivations for vehicle purchase trends. We keep on assuming that fully rational considerations such as economics, health, convenience, safety, the environment, etc... are the factors at play and that education is the way to change these things. However, sometimes it's the irrational things that matter the most. Sometimes people will chose a type of transportation because it's what they're used to and are afraid of change, cars are shiny, and for people like Gooseycheeks maybe a car or SUV represents a projection of power, since that is the way they relate to their world when on the road. And we need to take these things into account as well.

/just food for thought
 
2007-05-08 05:14:21 PM  
chromeburn: That's usually how it works when you are afflicted with Little Man Disease. And a small weener.

I'm a big guy, and I'm a big guy, and I can't stand spandex wearing bicyclists. Mostly cause they think they're better than everyone. Like liberals in general, really.
 
2007-05-08 05:14:38 PM  
soze

Sorry, I pay those fees on 13 concrete mixers and two road tractors every year, so I'm sensitive. But, I'm always careful around bikers. All the leather and tattoos scare me.

/Seriously though, I am considerate
//Usually even when they aren't....usually
 
2007-05-08 05:15:01 PM  
farkit broken. hooray.
 
2007-05-08 05:15:01 PM  
And you're in prison for negligent vehicular homicide. Getting raped.
--------

Meh, any good attorney should be able to get that down to involuntary manslaughter.
That means ankle bracelets, no voting and farking chicks with neck tattoos because of their felon status.

Still beats being dead.
 
2007-05-08 05:15:11 PM  
Wow, now you guys appear to have a strong fixation on molestation. Way to address the points of:

1. Don't be an asshole
2. Read rule #1.
3. A car is bigger than a bike, regardless of what the law states.
 
2007-05-08 05:15:27 PM  
Mishno: It's possible. If the car does something unexpected and the bikie isn't suspicious enough of driver perfidy. A friend of mine and I were riding home from work, about 8:00am (third shift) down a four lane, divided boulevard. I saw the old lady in the oncoming traffic look like she wasn't going to stop before making a left turn but my friend who hadn't been riding as long had his bike-fu fail him. We were clipping along pretty good with a tailwind and I guess she underestimated our speed. I stopped about a foot from her, he hit her fender at about 10mph and went over the hood and his Panasonic ended up under her right, rear wheel. He got a big lump on his shin and a better bike. She got a dented fender and a maybe a raise in her insurance rate.

so your friend was FOLLOWING TOO CLOSELY and GOING TOO FAST FOR CONDITIONS, and NOT PAYING ATTENTION and hit another vehicle. how is that the car driver's fault again?
 
2007-05-08 05:16:28 PM  
Sir Charles

Dear Sir,

Huh?

Sincerely,
The Misquoted
 
2007-05-08 05:17:06 PM  
Damnhippyfreak

I don't need a big car to project big damage on a bicyclist. shiat, I could take out a bicyclist with a Rascal Mobility scooter if I wanted to.
 
2007-05-08 05:17:16 PM  
danlpoon

Bike lanes should be paid for by bikers just like traffic lanes are paid for by cars! Simple.

let's try to get beyond the financial implications and admit the intrinsic benefits to a sound bicycling infrastructure in a city.

your commute is less crowded.
less pollution is being created.
an increased portion of girls/boys have hotter asses.

in my city, the mayor has strongly urged every city worker to ride a bike to work at least once a month and they're increasing the amount of bike lanes. and this is mexico city where the tax collection rate is 11%.
 
2007-05-08 05:17:32 PM  
floridian62 Gooseycheeks is a troll.

All I know is that when I am commuting to work at my non-profit organization, whilst wearing my REI polar-fleece vest and riding my recumbent bicycle with the ballistic nylon saddle-bags filled with back issues of Mother Jones and the Utne Reader, and my NPR water bottle is filled with filtered water, and some sunburned, beefy Republican driving an American made gas hog tries to pass me, I shout myself hoarse at him. And wave my puny fist.

/now that is a troll.
//and a helluva run on sentence
 
2007-05-08 05:17:40 PM  
C'mon now, don't make believe a guy named GooseyCheeks doesn't enjoy taking it up the middle really hard!!!
 
2007-05-08 05:17:47 PM  
so your friend was FOLLOWING TOO CLOSELY and GOING TOO FAST FOR CONDITIONS, and NOT PAYING ATTENTION and hit another vehicle. how is that the car driver's fault again?

I think she turned in front of them, if I read that right Roxtar
 
2007-05-08 05:18:36 PM  
The_Original_Roxtar: so your friend was FOLLOWING TOO CLOSELY and GOING TOO FAST FOR CONDITIONS, and NOT PAYING ATTENTION and hit another vehicle. how is that the car driver's fault again?

hey idiot, pay attention to the part where he said the car was in ONCOMING traffic next time.

/sheepishly slinks away from mishno
//my apologies.
 
2007-05-08 05:18:42 PM  
Highly doubtful. If I was going to run you over I would:
1. make sure you're dead
2. do it when there's no witnesses around.
3. I win!


Like I said 10 times before, you only have large balls on the Internet. In real life they are very tiny.
 
2007-05-08 05:18:52 PM  
I, for one, am in favor of hotter asses for everybody.
 
2007-05-08 05:19:16 PM  
Mr. Coffee Nerves: For the most part I have no problem with polite cyclists on the road, but I do have a problem with the cyclists who break out the "hey, I'm using a legal vehicle, too" attitude when they're blocking a lane on a busy street, but then have no problem whatsoever blowing through a red light or violating other traffic laws.

Amen. And I say that as a bicyclist myself.

Bikes belong in the road, but they also belong stopping at stop signs and red lights, just like everyone else. And that INCLUDES people on Critical Mass. None of this "oh but it's a rally so it's okay to steal the red" business.

/wears regular old work clothes riding
 
2007-05-08 05:19:42 PM  
nopokerface: I think she turned in front of them, if I read that right Roxtar

you did. i didn't.
 
2007-05-08 05:19:55 PM  
Moops [ thread summary ] : I'm a poor cyclist who gets righteous revenge against self-centered assholes who run people down.

Moops [ in profile ] : "Yes, for those of you needing to read my profile, I am a bona fide Masshole. Now get outta my way before I run you down!"


Ummm.. ya...
 
2007-05-08 05:20:42 PM  
The_Original_Roxtar

Illegal left turn into oncoming traffic.

Or..... does that mean that we can just pull directly in front of oncoming traffic and expect that traffic to stop (I mean... there was enough room for me to pull my SUV in front of them so they had enough time to stop)? If so, I'm making bank tonight on the way home.

/slashies love traffic laws
//unfortunately slashies don't love traffic fines
///learn by doing
 
2007-05-08 05:21:23 PM  
floridian62

read this (specifically the part about trolling other users) and go away before you're sent away.
 
2007-05-08 05:22:05 PM  
Gooseycheeks 2007-05-08 05:17:06 PM
amnhippyfreak
I don't need a big car to project big damage on a bicyclist. shiat, I could take out a bicyclist with a Rascal Mobility scooter if I wanted to.


Agreed! The point was that if someone was even thinking about this kind of thing in the first place speaks volumes.
 
2007-05-08 05:23:16 PM  
Floridian62 has been GRAMPOWNED!!!


/moops scenario is still a case where he is at fault for hitting the fender.
//if the car failed at signaling the right turn when he was ahead, the car might get a ticket TOO.
 
2007-05-08 05:23:17 PM  
Roxstar
Read it again. We were going north, she was going south. She pulled a left across in front of oncoming traffic. I was just pointing out how a car could cause an accident even though a bicycle should be able to stop much faster than a car.

Plus, in FriarTuck's case, how could he be following too closely if he was on the right shoulder and a car cut across his path after overtaking on his left? He wasn't following at all. The car clearly made an unsafe turn, it is the car driver's fault in his case, too. Again, the car made an unexpected move that left him insufficient time to save himself.

Luckily for my friend, he wasn't seriously hurt and the lady stopped and took responsibility for her action.
 
2007-05-08 05:23:58 PM  
I am sorry for any hurt I caused to the gay members of the Fark community. That was not my intent. You have my sincere apologies.
 
2007-05-08 05:24:04 PM  
moops

Highly doubtful. If I was going to run you over I would:
1. make sure you're dead
2. do it when there's no witnesses around.
3. I win!

Like I said 10 times before, you only have large balls on the Internet. In real life they are very tiny.


Moops, your fascination with my balls is a bit unsettling. But I will tell you this, there is no correlation between ball size and the amount of damage my vehicle can inflict. I could have no balls at all for all you know, you're still going to be on the losing side of the
 
2007-05-08 05:24:23 PM  
I stop at every red light I come to. It makes me feel funny. I get the feeling cars don't like it, especially when I'm first. They get pissed because I'm somehow in their way.

So, do I need to wear a sign that says "I'm supposed to do it this way"?
 
2007-05-08 05:24:34 PM  
Moops [ thread summary ] : I'm a poor cyclist who gets righteous revenge against self-centered assholes who run people down.

Moops [ in profile ] : "Yes, for those of you needing to read my profile, I am a bona fide Masshole. Now get outta my way before I run you down!"


Ummm.. ya...


It's called satire, Francis. Lighten up.
 
2007-05-08 05:27:23 PM  
moops

It's called satire, Francis. Lighten up.

Coming from you, that line deserves the ironic tag.
 
2007-05-08 05:28:14 PM  
Damnhippyfreak 2007-05-08 05:22:05 PM

Oh yeah, and as long as we're on the subject of people like Gooseycheeks and vehicle-as-power-to-dominate:
img460.imageshack.us
 
2007-05-08 05:28:42 PM  
Sir Charles

But the lycra makes my ass look fantastic.

nopokerface

Actually, I like truckers the best. They're the most considerate drivers out there, and almost without fail they've been careful and courteous with me when I'm on my bike.
 
2007-05-08 05:29:15 PM  
I could have no balls at all for all you know, you're still going to be on the losing side of the

You're just a troll with Little Man Disease.
 
2007-05-08 05:29:39 PM  
Mishno: Plus, in FriarTuck's case, how could he be following too closely if he was on the right shoulder and a car cut across his path after overtaking on his left? He wasn't following at all. The car clearly made an unsafe turn, it is the car driver's fault in his case, too. Again, the car made an unexpected move that left him insufficient time to save himself.

But that right there is why it's better to ride in the middle of the lane (or too far out to allow cars to pass you) right before an intersection, if you intend to go straight and you think some car might want to turn right.

I definitely do my best to be courteous. I avoid the really busy roads whenever possible (I prefer streets that are "one off" from the major roads, with less traffic). I generally stick to the right, where it's no big deal for cars to pass me on the left.

But when I get close to the intersection, absolutely I'll take the lane if I'm going straight, because right there it's not SAFE for some car to pass.

I take the lane going under tightly walled-in overpasses, too. It's all of five seconds, and as soon as it's clear, I'm back to the right again. But when the situation is like the narrow flight path in the canals of the Death Star from "Star Wars," hell no I'm not letting any crazy person try to pass me for those five seconds. It's the one street going under some train tracks, not much for it.

No matter what you're riding, if it's not safe to get passed, you gotta prevent people doing it. Then move back over.
 
2007-05-08 05:30:05 PM  
Plus, in FriarTuck's case, how could he be following too closely if he was on the right shoulder and a car cut across his path after overtaking on his left? He wasn't following at all. The car clearly made an unsafe turn, it is the car driver's fault in his case, too. Again, the car made an unexpected move that left him insufficient time to save himself.
-----------

That wasn't me. I had asked the question to moops in an assholish manner asking why the accident (where he hit someone's rear fender) wasn't his fault.

Someone then responded with another example where a driver turns left illegally in front of traffic coming in the opposite direction. I think the biker would be right in that case (the left turning car but not the running into the rear fender).

I think the two people who gave the stories have similar names, plus farky is screwed and causing misquotes.

//Bikers: If you drive in the middle of the lane on a bike, expect flack.
//You have to abide by the rules of slow moving vehicles too, you just can't pick and choose.
 
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