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(BBC)   Sarkozy wins French Presidency. Suck it, French libs   (news.bbc.co.uk) divider line 337
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2007-05-06 06:58:53 PM  
olddinosaur

The average voter didn't like either one.

Well, that explains the 85% turnout.
 
2007-05-06 07:04:34 PM  
olddinosaur
The average voter didn't like either one.

Really? Not to be argumentative, just not sure I buy that. After all, they had 85% turnout. In my experiences where average voters didn't like either candidate we've had much lower turnout. Say around 50% :).
 
2007-05-06 07:09:16 PM  
That Reilly Monster: Really? Not to be argumentative, just not sure I buy that. After all, they had 85% turnout. In my experiences where average voters didn't like either candidate we've had much lower turnout. Say around 50% :).

The French also have a blank vote policy, which they count as 'spoilt' and those numbers don't count towards the official vote percentages. Regardless of the candidates, most non-US democracies routinely have 70+% turnouts.

However, I blame the Socialist loss on:
upload.wikimedia.org

/laff
 
2007-05-06 07:10:46 PM  
In other news, Melissa apparently isn't the only hot babe on French TV:

Ooo la la

Ingrid Chauvin and Clara Morgane, your visas and green cards are in the mail...
 
2007-05-06 07:14:22 PM  
Merd.
 
2007-05-06 07:15:27 PM  
thedodo: eraser8: The site is calling this an "historic" defeat for the Socialists. How historic can this really be? This is the third election in a row they've lost.

Plus, under Sarkozy's photo, there's the title "RÉVOLUTION."

Propaganda. Don't forget, the US and it's people are the only ones in the world who view Socialism as a absolute bad and evil thing.


No, just anyone has ever lived under "Socialism".
 
2007-05-06 07:21:17 PM  
images.despair.com
 
2007-05-06 07:23:05 PM  
dOReGASM: Saying a conservative in Europe would be on the left in the US is not exactly accurate. Europeans of all stripes are generally much more in favor of government intervention, not just in the economy but in social policy as well. The closest thing to a moderate European is a liberal democrat who also adamantly in favor of affirmative action and things like the FCC censoring broadcasts and requiring political correctness.

dOReGASM: You've never heard of Mart Laar, then. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mart_Laar (pops)

Your kung fu of European politics is weak.
 
2007-05-06 07:28:10 PM  
Let me see if I understand this correctly: A Conservative Hungarian Jewish guy was just elected president of France over a hot socialist babe?

www.mts.net

cool.blogs.com
 
2007-05-06 07:34:37 PM  
I was waiting for a "Segolene Royal surrenders" headline.

But a Sarkozy win is very good for the people of France and Europe in general.
 
2007-05-06 07:35:04 PM  
Wheeee! The Islamic suburbs will now act up, Sarkozy will move to kick their asses, and the Euro-Islamic Civil will commence!

www.insidesocal.com
"This is gonna be great!"
 
2007-05-06 07:41:49 PM  
he barely won. how do you screech "no mandate" in french?

(DRTFA, has no idea what the %'s were)
 
2007-05-06 07:46:33 PM  
denmeister [TotalFark] 2007-05-06 05:42:27 PM
i166.photobucket.com

Yes, I blame this man for the downfall of soviet socialism.

Reagan the Great!




tygerland.net
www.tommcmahon.net

bad.eserver.org

"I do not recall.


I do not recall.


I do not recall.


I do not recall."

Once a crook, always a crook.
 
2007-05-06 07:47:58 PM  
skookum [TotalFark]

The 2006 elections in America were a fluke, and the Democrats only achieved victory because of an unprecedented anti-Bush blitz in the media.

The Democrats won because the American people saw the Republican Congress do exactly jack, zip and squat to help the Gulf Coast during Katrina.

A balanced government gets more done than either party in power. No one died when Clinton nominated a head of FEMA.

Congrats to the French. Viva liberty.
 
2007-05-06 08:02:18 PM  
As an American, I am VERY satisfied with the results of this election!


NO EARLY WITHDRAWAL FROM IRAQ! LEARN MORE HTTP://WWW.YOUCANTSTOPNOW.COM
 
2007-05-06 08:12:15 PM  
i151.photobucket.com
 
2007-05-06 08:12:18 PM  
Segolene...would anyone not hit it??


/glad she lost
//would love to comfort her.
 
2007-05-06 08:13:16 PM  
The car burning youfs will probably run a bit rampant while they still can, but it'll all be surprisingly quiet when takes office in a week or so.
 
2007-05-06 08:14:34 PM  
I've been boycotting everything French for the past 4 years.

No more! I just bought 2 bottles of wine to thank the people of France for returning to common sense. Maybe when they see American dollars again they'll understand our gratitude and the importance of our alliance.

Vote with your dollars!
 
kg
2007-05-06 08:15:45 PM  
If you do a google image search for Melissa Theuriau, the first hit is a topless picture of her

And the second, third, sixth, seventh, eighth...

Melissa Theuriau. Mmmm.
 
2007-05-06 08:23:34 PM  
That Reilly Monster: More than that, they trampled down everyone not in power to ensure they would never face the same kind of revolt that propelled them into prominence. While it may be fashionable these days to accuse the current administration of fascism, oppression, repression, whatever, let's never forget that all it takes to change our course is a motivated electorate and some honest politicians. That's a small thing compared to an armed revolt.

I think the big idea missing in these thoughts is the concept of "utopia".

The Communist system posits perfection in its people. Or, at least, a level of discretion that's impossible. Marx said something about the necessity of a class consciousness before any of his ideas could be truly implemented. That's too much to ask of any body of people for any lengthly period of time. Solidarity gives way to the realities of social dynamics in not too long a time. Maybe a real communism can work in small communities for long periods of time, or in a very large community for a very, very short period of time, but never for a long period of time in a community like an entire nation.

There's no inherent stability in its principles. While we should attempt to move towards a more utopian state of being, in a sense, we can't forget about the nature of reality as it really is. The thing about a classical form of capitalism is that it is resilient. It has forms of self-regulation. It's sort of, in a sense, a stable node. Push the state of the system away from the middle, and it will come back. Of course, if you push long and hard enough, it'll fly away, as we can see, but it's pretty decent in general.

Communism, though, is unstable in conception. You get just a few imperfect cracks forming in the social order, and that venerable Utopia turns into a totalitarian dictatorship overnight.

A lot of the concepts that one hears regarding pure Communism are really fairy tale ideas. "Wouldn't it be nice if..." Yeah, it'd be nice if we could all fly around on winged unicorns and gain nourishment from sunlight alone, but that's not going to happen.
 
2007-05-06 08:27:00 PM  
Sarkozy: FIRE ZEE MISSILES!!

Royale: But I'm le tired....
 
2007-05-06 08:35:57 PM  
SARKOWN3D
 
2007-05-06 08:36:32 PM  
EstoniaKat: I think this is a great day for France, and a great day for Europe. Sarkozy is going to be the most important leader on the continent.

/I heart him



Loving a politician is like loving a dead corpse. Eventually it's gonna stink.
 
2007-05-06 08:38:54 PM  
Valarius
The Democrats won because the American people saw the Republican Congress do exactly jack, zip and squat to help the Gulf Coast during Katrina.

Nope...it was Iraq. NO would have turned out the same if Kerry were Pres. It was handled in a 'c or c-' manner. Exactly what is honestly expected from govt workers.

Clinton didn't have a FEMA fiasco because of luck (no big storms), not preparation.

/Iraq was enough anyway
 
2007-05-06 08:42:49 PM  
Is someone who voted for Sarkozy a Sarkofagus?
 
2007-05-06 08:52:15 PM  
static.crooksandliars.com

/posted for no particular reason
 
2007-05-06 08:55:13 PM  
JericoPaladin
While we should attempt to move towards a more utopian state of being, in a sense, we can't forget about the nature of reality as it really is.

Totally agreed, I don't think I made it clear where I was going with my post. One of the many running threadjacks in here has been the impracticality of a socialist/communist movement in the US. I was responding to something that, in my perception anyway, likened the oppression of the Soviet Union to the current administration. While I'm no fan of Bush & Co. I do get a little defensive when anyone makes comparisons like that because I think they downplay the suffering of people who have actually lived under totalitarian regimes.
 
2007-05-06 08:55:58 PM  
img221.imageshack.us
In related news, the French photographer who took this photo has been charged with making terroristic threats.
(Well, he would be here)
 
2007-05-06 09:03:51 PM  
The election translated in Ann Coulter American subtitles:

Liberal vs. Communist

Calm down neocons, you didn't win anything. The term conservative is different in France.
 
2007-05-06 09:07:52 PM  
He said the US could count on France's friendship, but urged Washington to take a lead in the fight against climate change.

Hey, I can get behind that. I wish conservatives in the US were that way...
 
2007-05-06 09:19:27 PM  
RockIsDead
Is someone who voted for Sarkozy a Sarkofagus?

Don't be ridiculous. Big Bird's big brown friend isn't real.
 
2007-05-06 09:29:20 PM  
img207.imageshack.us

Vive La farking France!

/Oh mama
 
2007-05-06 09:38:05 PM  
were the Votes counted by Checkpoint Inc?
like our and mexicos forged elections are?
Have a nice day.
 
2007-05-06 09:38:51 PM  
Hey! I got an idea! Why don't we have someone explain to us again, for the 50 millionth time in this thread, how Sarkozy isn't really a conservative like in America???
 
2007-05-06 09:44:05 PM  
Yay, just what the world needs: another far right neo-facist world leader. At least Americans are starting to see the errors of their ways.

/enjoy frenchies
 
2007-05-06 09:49:49 PM  
So are the NPR hosts openly weeping into their unbiased palms?

I'll tune in tomorrow because it will be hilarious, even if a "conservative" Euro politician is far left of what any American would think as conservative, the unbiased NPR will be asking "what went wrong?".

/comedy gold in the making
 
2007-05-06 09:51:39 PM  
denmeister

Hey! I got an idea! Why don't we have someone explain to us again, for the 50 millionth time in this thread, how Sarkozy isn't really a conservative like in America???

OK, start with electrify.
 
2007-05-06 09:53:48 PM  
newton: were the Votes counted by Checkpoint Inc?
like our and mexicos forged elections are?
Have a nice day.


The machines in France were running iVotronic software. If I remember correctly, Chuck Hagel's ES&S makes those machines and software. ES&S is the second company facing widespread lawsuit and allegations of fraud and failure to provide adequate services in line with their contracts. Diebold was the first company, of course.

Machines are counting about 1.5 million votes in this election. More info on the Constitutional Debate on Voting Machines in France here.

They're rather strict about the voting process over there, so I'm fairly sure the election is on the up and up.
 
2007-05-06 10:12:18 PM  
i never thought i would read

85.5% voter turnout
 
2007-05-06 10:28:20 PM  
This is rich...now the conservatives have embraced the rifle-dropping Frenchies!

Any port in a storm, I guess...

/Victory fries for all!
 
2007-05-06 10:42:17 PM  
I love this quote from the article on Yahoo:

"Like Thatcher in Britain, like Reagan in the United States, Sarkozy will change things," said supporter Thierry Gauvert, 55.

Here we are, explaining how un-conservative a French "conservative" is, and the French think he's Reagan! They're just like us, turning to Ronnie. Maybe we do have something in common with the Frenchies.
 
2007-05-06 10:47:30 PM  
McManus_brothers: "Like Thatcher in Britain, like Reagan in the United States, Sarkozy will change things,"

So he's going to engage in a minor turf war, threaten to nuke a nation that is inferior in military technology, then back down and be all 'Huh, what? What do you mean? I don't recall' after the international community goes WTF?!

That sounds like it'll be rather entertaining.
 
2007-05-06 10:52:15 PM  
Pincy

Seeing all these Conservatives high-fiving themselves over the French electing a more conservative politician who would be considered a Liberal here just shows you how insulated and warped our media and political system really is.

How so?

Yeah the guy known as a french conservative probably would make Bill Clinton look like Rush Limbaugh but it still is a step in the right direction that they picked him over the guy that would make Joseph Stalin look like a moderate.
 
2007-05-06 11:01:35 PM  
Digitalstrange: the guy that would make Joseph Stalin look like a moderate.

Uh, even as a Republican, I don't think Royal would have made Stalin look like a moderate. The guy had more people killed and imprisoned than Hitler did. And BTW, Segolene Royal isn't a guy, she's a very fine MILF.

/Sorry about the Godwin
 
2007-05-06 11:22:21 PM  
Speaker2Animals: ... and Clara Morgane, your visas and green cards are in the mail...

That's the funny thing in places like France. You can go airtight and still have a respectable career later.
 
2007-05-06 11:50:54 PM  
This thread has been great in identifying all the Americans who are so into party politics that they think that their Conservative/Liberal distinctions not only are accurate in the US, but in the rest of the world.

I guess I'll shell out five more bucks so I can put them all on my favorites list so their posts are colored. Then I can identify those that have no idea what they are talking about in political threads instead of continually giving the benefit of the doubt.
 
2007-05-07 12:17:37 AM  
Unright

Agreed. By the rest of the world standards, the United States fights over shades of blue. The Democrats would be considered noticeably to the right in the political spectrum of pretty much any other developed nation.
 
2007-05-07 12:18:47 AM  
Father Jack conservatives......"maintain status quo."

Um, no. Reagan didn't keep Carter's status quo.
 
2007-05-07 12:23:22 AM  
KaponoFor3 [TotalFark] 2007-05-06 03:10:31 PM
According to Drudge, his "victory message" included this statement to America: "You Can Count on France as a Friend"

If that is really true, then I applaud Sarkozy's election. You know Royal would have been a royal biatch to deal with, no pun intended

I have a feeling the pun was intended.
 
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