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2007-05-06 01:38:23 PM
THAT should have been a no-brainer.

frackin' smoking nazis can kiss my ass. 200 odd years ago we called them 'puritans'. Nowadays, they're 'health nuts'. Same fanaticism, same asshattery, different cause, different century.
 
2007-05-06 01:40:48 PM
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C.S. Lewis
 
2007-05-06 01:41:07 PM
Banning smoking is an awesome idea.

People should do that more often, if for no other reason than witnessing the ensuing panty-waddening.
 
2007-05-06 01:41:23 PM
Weaver

I actually agree with you on this one. On a side note, would Weaver happen to be your last name? I might have distant relatives from that area...
 
2007-05-06 01:42:33 PM
Stupid Flanders.

(Loves Belgian threads.)
 
2007-05-06 01:43:51 PM
First "they" will come for our vices, then for our guns.


/not a nut
//but look at the Puritans
///it happens
 
2007-05-06 01:45:46 PM
I love the sound of pissed off nicotine addicts in the afternoon.
 
2007-05-06 01:46:20 PM
they share a border with the Dutch
 
2007-05-06 01:46:53 PM
Nathan Farr: I love the sound of pissed off nicotine addicts in the afternoon.

Sounds like...victory.
 
2007-05-06 01:46:56 PM
It amuses me that across the board bans are apparantly the only solution these people are capable of contemplating.
 
2007-05-06 01:46:59 PM

I go to Dutch restaurants where I don't go to eat,
Instead I chain smoke until the whole place smells like feet!!


I'm an asshole (he's an asshole,what an asshole)!!


www.smokemag.com
 
2007-05-06 01:47:26 PM
I'm with KentF. We're not talking about banning something important like literacy, art, music, history, etc. We're talking about stopping people from lighting a roll of leaves on fire, in public, and breathing in the the result. And worse yet from having them light them and just sit there holding them like a little nancy-boy fag polluting all those around them.

If smokers were really about the smoking, they wouldn't burn over 75% of the cigarette just sitting there [e.g. in their hand but not at the mouth]. They wouldn't open their windows while driving, etc...

It's just some lame addiction that they're too weak willed to get over. And instead of actually improving their situation they keep right on at it and blame everything and everyone around them for making their life oh just so boo hoo hard.

Look, you're smoking leaves dude. Get over it. If you're really all about killing yourself there is always more effect ways that aren't so passive aggressive lame.
 
2007-05-06 01:48:15 PM
Nathan Farr: I love the sound of pissed off nicotine addicts in the afternoon.

I'm not pissed. My state still allows smoking.

You are just ignorant to the fact that our rights are slowly disappearing. Sooner or later they will get to something which is a vice such as yours, like bestiality. Then you'll be pissed.
 
2007-05-06 01:49:26 PM
In anger, Belgium has issue a waffle embargo to Netherlands... stoners languish as many 24 breakfast joints are forced to close
 
2007-05-06 01:49:28 PM
tomstdenis: It's just some lame addiction that they're too weak willed to get over.

wow, I just saw at least 3 shades of stupid in your post.

/maybe 4
 
2007-05-06 01:49:34 PM
tomstdenis

I wish I smoked just to piss off people like you.
 
2007-05-06 01:50:30 PM
Sharkface217: I wish I smoked just to piss off people like you

I'll smoke twice as much for the rest of the day in public, for the both of us.
 
2007-05-06 01:51:56 PM
+1 Weaver95

I just love it when the anti-smokers quote still quote the invalid 1993 EPA study. They are just like the people who think Global wring is gona kill us all and we have to do SOMETHING.

Face it you smoking nannies. With ALL the scientifically valid studies that have been done. Second hand smoke is unproven at best, a downright lie at it's worst considering all the junk studies and science floating around saying otherwise.

"But look at these pictures of a smokers lungs at 50 vs a non smokers lungs at 70" Um yea, I've seen those photos too. They are a lie. Do some digging and you find that the smokers lungs were from someone who died of LUNG CANCER where the non-smoker died of other causes. Of course cancerous tissue is gonna look different than healthy tissue. That would be like showing colons from soneone who ate alot of meat and died of colon cancer and then compared it to a vegetarian who died from some other cause, then argue that eating meat isn't healthy for you.

You just don't like it and so have to come up with a reason to ban it, just like every nanny group needs to make something up to ban what they don't like. There are just too many lies for me to debunk in one post.

/non-smoker
 
2007-05-06 01:53:46 PM
They'll get over it.
 
2007-05-06 01:54:36 PM
That's unpossible! The papers I read always say that business increases after smoking bans go into effect! You see, once there's no more smoking, families and little kiddies will come flocking to places like "Sleazy Joe's Pub & Bar", and all the regulars will... well, who really cares about them, eh?
 
2007-05-06 01:57:19 PM
The booze industry must be loving this though. Apparantly smokers were the only thing keeping non-smokers from becoming raging alcoholics.
 
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2007-05-06 01:59:25 PM
www.starstore.com

"Belgium." The most offensive word in the galaxy.
 
2007-05-06 01:59:30 PM
Calvin Coolidge: "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C.S. Lewis

I don't like the man's religious views, but this is dead on. Prohibition doesn't work, never has, and never will.
 
2007-05-06 01:59:35 PM
I call BS. I doubt many patrons especially non smokers are going to cross to another country just to escape a ban. After all, why would non-smokers visit some other country just for the privilege of second hand smoke and to come out smelling like an ashtray. Even smokers are bound to reasonably decide that they could walk outside to smoke if they don't have the self-control to go an entire hour or two without a cigarette.
 
2007-05-06 02:02:21 PM
België is het ergst van het Nederlands met een klein deel van Frankrijk... en met vreselijk accenten.

/Never been to Belgium, but just sayin'...
 
2007-05-06 02:02:40 PM
Personally, I think the issue here isn't whether you or I are allowed to smoke inside of a building. The question is, does a restaurant owner have the right to decide what is, and is not, allowable on his own property?

Look, we all know smoking is bad for you. We all know that second hand smoke isn't good for you (Crosshair's points not-withstanding). People who really care don't go to places where they're going to get exposed. If the government really cared, a better option would be tax-breaks for establishments that go smoke free. Give people the freedom to choose, and give them enticements to choose the "right" path. Everybody wins- a few restaurants/bars go smoke free. Others keep smoking. Business goes up for both- as more non-smokers go out to the smoke-free places, and smokers go to the smoke-friendly places.

And we can all get the fark over it.

//Ex-smoker.
 
2007-05-06 02:04:28 PM
The only thing I can think of, when I hear belgium...

Is waffles.
 
2007-05-06 02:06:08 PM
Smoking bans should be up to the local business. If they decide to be smoking or non-smoking and have enough buisness to support their decision, more power to them. If we as a consumer disagree with their decision, DON'T FREQUENT THEIR BUSINESS!
 
2007-05-06 02:07:05 PM
I was just in Holland, and the amount of smoking was utterly obnoxious. In the airport, in every restaurant, EVERYWHERE. I don't give a crap about the health hazards of second hand smoke. I do, however, care about not enjoying my food and getting a migraine level headache everywhere I tried to go and enjoy a meal
 
2007-05-06 02:07:12 PM
Um yea, I've seen those photos too. They are a lie.

I don't know what photos you saw, but I've seen a documentary where they went with a camera inside a (living) smoker's lungs.

/scary stuff
 
2007-05-06 02:08:07 PM
cours.funoc.be
 
2007-05-06 02:08:10 PM
tomstdenis
I'm with KentF. We're not talking about banning something important like literacy, art, music, history, etc.

As long as it is others getting the shaft you are all smiles and dimples.
 
2007-05-06 02:08:41 PM
drxym: I call BS. I doubt many patrons especially non smokers are going to cross to another country just to escape a ban. After all, why would non-smokers visit some other country just for the privilege of second hand smoke and to come out smelling like an ashtray. Even smokers are bound to reasonably decide that they could walk outside to smoke if they don't have the self-control to go an entire hour or two without a cigarette.

Uh, it happens all the time. Tons of people from Montgomery and Prince Georges Counties, Maryland, went to other counties and DC (before they banned it, too) to smoke. Once the state ban takes effect, this will obviously diminish as it'll be too inconvenient. But, until then, as long as it is easy to do, smokers will go a few extra miles to go to an establishment that permits smoking.
 
2007-05-06 02:10:07 PM
If there are 2 things I can't stand, it's people who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch!
 
2007-05-06 02:10:14 PM
Smellvin
Were you short of e's?

/Nederlandse grammatica-nazi
 
2007-05-06 02:12:49 PM
Anything not good for you is bad, hence, illegal. Alcohol, caffeine, contact sports, meat . . . Bad language, child play, gasoline, uneducational toys, and anything spicy. Abortion is also illegal. But, then again so is pregnancy, if you don't have a license.

/not that obscure.
 
2007-05-06 02:13:15 PM
is this the thread where all the nic fiends try to validate their repulsive behavior?
 
2007-05-06 02:13:17 PM
Let people smoke. I don't care. My brother and his wife were smokers and they quit so they could have a kid. She got miserable for a few months, and he got...happy. He was smiling and energetic. That was creepy.

Maybe this will prove successful just like when they banned alcohol. I mean, nobody drank when that ban was around. Oh wait.

/Not a smoker.
//DOn't care if people smoke.
 
2007-05-06 02:13:36 PM
drxym, are you really writing these comments from an island? On mainland continental areas, it is not uncommon to visit neigbhoring provinces, states, or even countries, just for dining - you know, as long as it is close.

Everyone else, I didn't know that the smoking/non-smoking thing was still such a big deal. Here's hoping it all works out for everyone.
 
2007-05-06 02:14:17 PM
Surprised the FarkFilter allowed such a profane word as 'Belgium' to appear.

/chesterfield
 
2007-05-06 02:15:13 PM
Purple_jack

This picture has always cracked me up, because "pipe" in French is slang for blowjob. I always expect an other picture to appear, with an XXX-rated captionned "CECI est une pipe!"
 
2007-05-06 02:15:32 PM
SMOKE.
 
2007-05-06 02:16:06 PM
padraig: This picture has always cracked me up, because "pipe" in French is slang for blowjob

In Dutch too.
 
2007-05-06 02:17:18 PM
drxym: I call BS. I doubt many patrons especially non smokers are going to cross to another country just to escape a ban.

Lot of people in the Cincinnati area will cross the river to Kentucky because of the smoking ban. From what I've seen, smoking may actually be mandatory in Kentucky.


/if you don't think Kentucky is a different country, wait 'till you see the Florence water tower
 
2007-05-06 02:19:13 PM
ColonelNorth

Uh, it happens all the time. Tons of people from Montgomery and Prince Georges Counties, Maryland, went to other counties and DC (before they banned it, too) to smoke. Once the state ban takes effect, this will obviously diminish as it'll be too inconvenient. But, until then, as long as it is easy to do, smokers will go a few extra miles to go to an establishment that permits smoking.


You live in freaking Maryland. Just drive to Delaware, it's not that far. My county is larger than your state, but people would still drive to the next county over to go to the cock fights after they got outlawed here. Once New Mexico entirely outlawed cock fights, people just became criminals instead of driving all the way to Louisiana or Guam where it's still legit. When the city council banned smoking in bars, private clubs, and truckstops, it took less than a week for the good people of Las Cruces to get a petition with enough signatures for it to be repealed. It's nice to know that property rights are still respected someplaces sometimes.
 
2007-05-06 02:19:59 PM
I quit a week ago, and I'm off to Europe in about 2 1/2 weeks. Last time I flew to Europe (4 years ago)I had to have a patch on my back so I wouldn't go on a killing spree. Once I got there, I smoked all over the place. This time, no patches, can't smoke hardly anywhere anyway. I think I made the best decision for myself. And I don't care if you smoke or not. Don't dictate my life and I won't dictate yours. :D
 
2007-05-06 02:20:20 PM
Going way out on a limb I believe, but don't needle users (druggies) and the practitioners of butt sex (male homosexuals) have a much higher chance of getting AIDS?

And if that's the case, I wonder how the same anti-smoking nutjobs would feel about laws and heavy taxes (read "sin" taxes) to regulate the male homosexual communities behavior. When called a bigot, just exclaim you are the exact opposite and it is because, you love male homosexuals so much, that you want to save them from themselves. Would the anti-smoking nutjobs go into shock from their hypocrisy or even scarier would they agree that something needs to be done to save these men from the AIDS?

/did not include needle users, since we already have laws against it, oh yeah, legalize drugs
 
2007-05-06 02:20:42 PM
tenhigh- This is the thread where people, who know that it is not the place of government to tell individuals what they can and cannot do within their own businesses, to biatch about said government oversteppings.

/maybe if they ban cheap whiskey you'll give a shiat too!
 
2007-05-06 02:22:24 PM
ColonelNorth: Three seashells?
 
2007-05-06 02:23:37 PM
And the award for most gratuitous use of the word 'Belgium' in a headline goes to..

/42
 
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