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(911Blogger)   Panicky 9/11 truth nutjobs debate Oakland gas tanker incident, see their WTC conspiracy theories collapse as quickly as that highway did   ( 911blogger.com) divider line
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2007-04-30 05:59:08 PM  
Tweekster: that's a no-brainer. Bush asked congress to limit the 9-11 investigation, and refused to testify under oath.
 
2007-04-30 05:59:28 PM  
This thread should be enshrined for posterity.

Brilliant stuff everyone!

The one line that would've had me do a spit take had my mouth been full:

trueaustinite
Are you seriously this stupid? Because the j00s turned on the machine that makes gravity pull in a straight line toward the center of the Earth, unlike other days when the machine is being serviced.
 
2007-04-30 06:00:54 PM  
cryptozoophiliac:

Well that PROVES it...

oh wait it doesnt.

Why would he want to limit the investigation, because a lot of people were gonna get egg on their face for being incompetent.

Why would any politician ever want to testify on oath, dont they always try to avoid doing so?
 
2007-04-30 06:02:32 PM  
szmike: 9) The Death Star had planet-destroying capabilities, as it had previously demostrated with the complete annihilation of the planet of Alderaan. Yet it did not utilize that power to remove the planet of Yavin, which would have provided the Death Star with an unobstructed shot of the moon which housed the rebel base. Instead, the order was given to wait until the Death Star could orbit around Yavin until a clear shot was available. This gave the rebel fighters enough time to mount its successful attack against the Death Star.

elchip: Not_Enginerd: Actually, because of conservation of momentum and mass, the gravity of the debris cluster formally known as Yavin would exhibit the same gravity effects on the Death Star as Yavin itself. Therefore there was no reason to not shoot through Yavin, unless Lord Vader wanted the Death Star destroyed by the rebels so his buddies could get more high paying government contracts to build another Death Star.

What else did Lord Vader know? Anyone who disagrees with me is a sheeple.

Regardless, the first Death Star's laser took hours to recharge. That's why.


ALL of you are getting sidetracked and bogged down in details - it's DESIGNED to mislead.

The REAL question is why couldn't the DEATH STAR simply DESTROY YAVIN - does anyone honestly THINK that if Yavin goes, a tiny moon in CLOSE ORBIT would SURVIVE?!

I't Stinks - it's an EMPIRE for gods sakes, with such a SIMPLE OPTION, why did TARKEN and VADER make such a critical error in TACTICS?!
 
2007-04-30 06:03:00 PM  
All of you sagely weighing in on the intricacies of FBI bureacratic structure need to take a look at what happened, who the players were and how it all shook out.

FBI field agents were making dark jokes in the run-up to 9-11 to the effect that Bin Laden had spies at FBI HQ.

And yes, Liver Hooligan, I'd love to know why FOX news 86'd their Israeli spy coverage after 9-11. That does look a bit suspicious.
 
2007-04-30 06:03:17 PM  
cryptozoophiliac

Your trollfu is weak

Try again tomorrow!
 
2007-04-30 06:04:52 PM  
Tweekster: why would you exempt a lying incompetent from any suspicion in a crime which benefitted his administration and its corporate cronies?
 
2007-04-30 06:04:58 PM  
YesItsTom/>

LMAO! I haven't laughed that hard in a while.
 
2007-04-30 06:05:03 PM  
nopokerface-

no, but fortunately crypto is pulling double duty til they come...
 
2007-04-30 06:05:09 PM  
tweekster: dont they always try to avoid doing so?

If they learned anything from the previous administration it was that you never testify under oath if at all possible.
 
2007-04-30 06:06:22 PM  
I love all of the pictures. I love the pancake effect that makes we want waffles (I like waffles more than pancakes).

Cryptozoophiliac

You can't be serious?!? Uh why don't you hate the actual people that caused it (Terrorists) than some crackpot idea taht don't hold up under real scrutiny.

Do you believe that we never landed on the moon as well? You sound just like those morons.
 
2007-04-30 06:07:12 PM  
cryptozoophiliac:

Because the suspicion doesnt point to them, all evidence clearly points elsewhere. That is why. The incompetence just allowed others to commit the crime. but does not make them somehow complicit

Still havent found any tangible clear evidence have you? Accusations and conjecture are all you have
 
2007-04-30 06:08:12 PM  
ZerOhOur: Your life is weak.

Colleen Rowley, David Schippers and so on. Google is your friend.

Just because I don't have all the answers about the exact sequence of events on 9-11 doesn't mean Bush, Zelikow and Kane do.
 
2007-04-30 06:09:41 PM  
"And yes, Liver Hooligan, I'd love to know why FOX news 86'd their Israeli spy coverage after 9-11. That does look a bit suspicious."

YES! Thank you! I knew deep down you were thinking it was all about the Jews. Welcome to Gaza! Would you like some sweets?
 
2007-04-30 06:10:31 PM  
cryptozoophiliac

After all your yelling about FBI people getting promoted after screwing up their job...you haven't worked in industry much, have you? If I had a dollar for every time that's happened, I'd have a shiatload of dollars.

//Basketball FTW
 
2007-04-30 06:11:19 PM  
liverhooligan:

You win!
 
2007-04-30 06:11:56 PM  
Tweekster, where have you been these last few years? Accusation and conjecture are all that are necessary these days. Just ask Sadaam, or Jose Padilla. Yes, accusation, conjecture and perhaps a bit of extrajudicial, extra-legal confinement, and maybe a little creative coercion. Add these all up and what do you get?

9-11 Mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed's confession.

Bush has nothing more than I do. Accept apparently his cock up your ass.
 
2007-04-30 06:12:29 PM  
cltbuilder

thx

/clear and present danger is a favorite of mine
 
2007-04-30 06:13:05 PM  
I't Stinks - it's an EMPIRE for gods sakes, with such a SIMPLE OPTION, why did TARKEN and VADER make such a critical error in TACTICS?!

You Empire HATERS are so darn silly. Why are you blaming the VICTIMS of the destruction of the Death Star?

Hindsight is 20/20!!! And I don't know why anyone is blaming Grand Moff Tarkin in all of this. Darth Vader had a lot of blame to shoulder, especially being an absentee father to Luke Skywalker. You know how much that messes up a young boy? Living in the ass-end of the universe, on a slum world like Tatooine?!

But COME ON! YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS. Darth Vader tried to kill his own son to protect that space station (IT'S NO MOON!!!), for goodness' sake!!! DARTH VADER DID NOT WANT THE DEATH STAR TO BE DESTROYED!!!!

You can't say that Darth Vader didn't try!!! and if he had succeeded in shooting down Luke Skywalker, then we wouldn't be HATING on the real VICTIMS of this disaster... THE EMPIRE!
 
2007-04-30 06:13:09 PM  
www.dev-elements.net
 
2007-04-30 06:13:48 PM  
cryptozoophiliac:

You realize you just admitted you have nothing right?

Not only have you admitted to being a nutjob, you just admitted to being stupid too.
 
2007-04-30 06:13:51 PM  
I'm tired of the main discussion. I think I'll join the other one: bastar, maybe the superweapon was never designed to work on gas giants. Perhaps their unique structures prevent the laser from cracking them the same way one could destroy a rocky planet. For that matter, maybe the laser would have fired right THROUGH Yavin, but having arrived at the planet while the moon was already on the far side of the giant, they didn't have the exact telemetry to make the shot count. Remember, it was only the Rebels who knew exactly when the death star was coming into range. The imperial command was content just to orbit until the moon came into view.
 
2007-04-30 06:14:25 PM  
www.demise.com
 
2007-04-30 06:14:53 PM  
Of course, I meant: except.

Anyhoo, it's been a blast, although I'm still not sure why messrs. Keane, Zelikow and Bush get to level extra-judicial accusations and conjecture and are above reproach, where I am a fantasy-addled nutjob.

Guess I just don't have thos primo, Bin Laden style connections. Oh well, at least there's Becker.
 
2007-04-30 06:14:55 PM  
Very scarey in here.

Which ones are just skilled trolls (looking at crypto),or believe this stuff?

/innocent trolling remark to appear naive?
//or are my meds off-balance?
///What if that tanker truck was followed by a fertilizer truck followed by a farm truck with ammonia as well as a truck carrying oxygen to the local nursing home?
 
2007-04-30 06:16:57 PM  
Let's not forget, Bushco had to take over the government, come up with the entire plan and get it all in place, people recruited, explosives wired, etc... All in less than 8 months!
 
2007-04-30 06:17:37 PM  
jedimk: Do you believe that we never landed on the moon as well?

No WAY!!!!

img451.imageshack.us
 
2007-04-30 06:18:30 PM  
cryptozoophiliac:

Basement dwellers typically dont have any connections
 
2007-04-30 06:20:00 PM  
ritalinchild 54:

Basically, here's what it boils down to at Fark. Bush and Cheney are evil and their administration is incompetent, in fact too incompetent to have had any hand in 9-11. Their ties to Saudi oil money and the Bin Laden are coincidental and immaterial.

Nearly anyone who questions the Bush Administration's version of 9-11 is a "Conspiracy Theorist" (or CT), where as those who believe the incompetent, evil Bush Administration's version of 9-11 is a "sober, evidence-weighing realist, dealing in FACT and TRUTH." This entitles them to mock the Conspiracy Theorists.

Clear it up for ya?
 
2007-04-30 06:21:42 PM  
Wow...

I am impressed. This is a far more rational 9/11 thread then usual. Did most of the CT nutcases give up on Fark?


//Or have they had a string of self-inflicted accidents due to tin-foil abuse?
 
2007-04-30 06:23:09 PM  
"elchip [TotalFark] 2007-04-30 04:22:56 PM
EvolveYouPutz: But...Bush & Friends are savvy enough to orchestrate the most diabolical plot in our history, killing thousands, and nobody among the thousands of people that would've been involved in this elaborate plot has opened their yap to anyone, anywhere.

I've been so tempted to make a GMail account with a mysterious-sounding username and e-mail Alex Jones or Michael Rivero or the Loose Change kids and claim that I was involved in planting explosives in the WTC, and I just couldn't live with myself any more, etc. etc... and see how much they jump all over it.
"

I hate to say this but... my ex-wife(second one) was a known firebug from a NY area and had a real hatred for NYC. She is very sketchy and able to be devious and underhanded (as well as being the best lay ever).but she always wanted to fly and was probably in NYC during both attacks at the WTC.


/Does this qualify?
 
2007-04-30 06:23:15 PM  
cryptozoophiliac

And yes, Liver Hooligan, I'd love to know why FOX news 86'd their Israeli spy coverage after 9-11. That does look a bit suspicious.

probably several reasons: 1) gov't mandated (their excuse was probably because of 9/11 and wartime), 2) 9/11 basically overpowered any other news story for the next 2 months, and they had no desire to continue coverage, 3) it's FOX fer christ's sake, they ax anything remotely negative now

i don't remember every news fad, but i can't recall any other network picking up the story
 
2007-04-30 06:24:59 PM  
I saw a US military plane, not a tanker truck.
 
2007-04-30 06:25:21 PM  
I have no idea what you're talking about, so here's a kitten doing a Star Wars impersonation.

pics.livejournal.com
 
2007-04-30 06:25:56 PM  
crypto,zerohour, tweekster, Radio ass, liver, suzan, and just about anyone else still arguing about 911 on a fark comment.

Just stop...NOW!
 
2007-04-30 06:27:13 PM  
And I thought I was having my first original thought when I blogged about this earlier today. (pops)

*sigh*
 
2007-04-30 06:27:33 PM  
jediMK: Al Qaeda may have destroyed the WTCs, but the Bush Administration and a pussillanimous US Congress have destroyed the Constitution.

These are both hateworthy acts. And both criminal, in my opinion.

The difference is, Rudy Giuliani is running for President, not UBL. And he has the goddamn balls to suggest that a vote for the other party will invite another terrorist attack.

Someone should definitely kick him in the nads and hard. American politicians are the ones who can truly destroy America, not Jihadists.
 
2007-04-30 06:27:43 PM  
static.flickr.com
 
2007-04-30 06:29:17 PM  
Admittedly, it's been a while since I've seen the news footage, but isn't Yavin a gas giant? Aren't they many thousands of times larger then rock planets like Alderaan. I mean, if the moon had normal gravity (which it seemed to), it must be normal sized - which makes Yavin pretty big...

All the DS-one could probably do to it was make a pretty light show.

At least that's what RNN says.
 
2007-04-30 06:31:16 PM  
You know, I am SO farking sick of that cliche. It really should be grounds for bannination. My retarded niece still has more common sense than to use someone's disabilities to prove some lame point.
 
2007-04-30 06:31:23 PM  
You morans are arguing about all this on a fark comment thread. Please just stop. You're never going to make your point and you will never change the other persons mind so just stop. You're clogging the intertubes with your idiocy.
static.flickr.com
 
2007-04-30 06:32:06 PM  
Just because the truth of 9/11 wasn't on CNN or NBC doesn't mean GW was behind it. I think it insane to suggest that it was driven by any capitalist agenda was involved. It was the World Trade towers for pete's sake! The world mecca of capitalism.

I just think that our government doesn't want us to know how well planned and executed the attack was. Our government is supposed to make us feel safe. That is their primary purpose.
 
2007-04-30 06:34:04 PM  
Staypuft_Mushmallow_Manz: Remember, it was only the Rebels who knew exactly when the death star was coming into range. The imperial command was content just to orbit until the moon came into view.

Right - how come a silly LITTLE band of "Rebels" was able to overcome this MASSIVE juggernaut of an "EMPIRE" - which after taking control of the Galactic Core and exerting massive influence in the Outer Rim planets (Like our PUPPETS the HUTTS) we can't figure out a way to deal with some LITTLE BAND of "REBEL SKUM" - Next your gonna tell me theres some MYTHICAL FORCE that flow through the Universe that made it happen. Keep your INVISIBLE SKY WIZARDS out of this, im trying to have a REASONABLE discussion.

No, my own theory is that an ELITE BAND of "Rough Clone Troopers" (Remember the 501'st and how effective they where?) where set up as this so-called "Rebel Alliance" sideshow that could be used to blame all the MISMANAGEMENT that is going on, and that they where tasked with destroying the DEATH STAR because special "DARK PROJECTS" being worked on in the area known as "THE MAW" needed more funds - funds that could be siphoned off and pawned off as "Cost Overruns" and "Mismanagement". So many systems are making so many credits nobody wants to too make an issue of it for fear of having their own contracts looked over.
 
2007-04-30 06:37:26 PM  
Slump
isn't Yavin a gas giant? Aren't they many thousands of times larger then rock planets like Alderaan. I mean, if the moon had normal gravity (which it seemed to), it must be normal sized - which makes Yavin pretty big...

All the DS-one could probably do to it was make a pretty light show.


I AGREE.

If you think about the energy you'd need to WASTE to blow up a gas giant, just to get at one of its moons... C'MON!!!!!!

I read somewhere that it takes something like the GDP of an ENTIRE STAR SYSTEM to build a single Imperial Star Destroyer. With those kinds of costs involved, why waste ammunition on an uninhabitable gas giant?

DO YOU EMPIRE HATERS KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY?

/stop blaming the Empire!
//Han shot first. What does that say about the Rebel Alliance, HMMMM?!
 
2007-04-30 06:39:12 PM  
www.lakemirabel.com

This fire burned for a long time, but this bridge never collapsed! This is the first time in history a bridge fire has caused the bridge to collapse!
 
2007-04-30 06:39:13 PM  

kaitou [TotalFark] 2007-04-30 06:21:42 PM
Wow...

I am impressed. This is a far more rational 9/11 thread then usual. Did most of the CT nutcases give up on Fark?



No. We've just learned to accept anything our government tells us as undisputable fact. You're a fool if you don't.

The US government has never lied to American people. And it never will.
 
2007-04-30 06:41:45 PM  
stvdallas FTW.
 
2007-04-30 06:42:35 PM  
This is funny shiat. As soon as I saw this story in the paper, I thought about the idiots like BearToy, and how tight they would cling to their stupid-ass conspiracy garbage.

/Angry? No, I just like some insult with my derision.
 
2007-04-30 06:44:08 PM  
The same people who think a portion of freeway equals 110 story steel struction also believe teh earth is less than 10k years old.

They want to believe in a fairy tale.
 
2007-04-30 06:46:23 PM  
legion_of_doo: //Han shot first. What does that say about the Rebel Alliance, HMMMM?!

He was an IMPERIAL PILOT first - I think he was "Deep Cover" / "Agent Provocateur" type - conveniently he transported Luke SKYWALKER to ALDERAN and then they both "conveniently" escaped from there just BEFORE it goes BOOM!!

Right.
 
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