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(911Blogger)   Panicky 9/11 truth nutjobs debate Oakland gas tanker incident, see their WTC conspiracy theories collapse as quickly as that highway did   ( 911blogger.com) divider line
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2007-04-30 04:04:17 PM  
Elchip - wow, just, wow.

you make me want to seek the truth. What did Vader know and when did he know it?
 
2007-04-30 04:05:47 PM  
Elchip, that was awesome. Game over man game over.
 
2007-04-30 04:06:38 PM  
This was the thread I was waiting for when I first heard what had happened in Oakland. Lots of excellent posts. It's good to know I can count on Fark.
 
2007-04-30 04:07:28 PM  
elchip

For some reason, when I read that, I hear it done in the voice of the fake-Michael Moore from Fellowship 911.

It's even funnier that way.
 
2007-04-30 04:07:41 PM  
Cue the "not this shizt again" guy.
 
2007-04-30 04:08:54 PM  
Props to elchip. A masterpiece of Fark commentary.
 
2007-04-30 04:09:16 PM  
 
2007-04-30 04:09:35 PM  
I saw that last week Elchip. Funny as hell. You should attribute it though... even if it was Alex Jones.
 
2007-04-30 04:09:41 PM  
elchip:

Bravo.
 
2007-04-30 04:10:26 PM  
Elchip: Newsletter, etc.

Also, did anybody else say "What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?" or "Do you have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?" when they read that?
 
2007-04-30 04:11:02 PM  
But.......But........But......The thermite.....
The.... metal......it.......melts......it....
thermite.......melts........steel.......it...
the.....but.....but.....steel.....melts......thermite
.......but......steel......melts.......but....but...
wha....wha.... what? Rosie said.... it was GW.....

wha....wha....but....it....it...was pulled....it
?????!!!!!????!!!!

And then the Truther's brain Assploded!!
 
2007-04-30 04:11:15 PM  
This thread is cracking me up.

Ancalagon is my hero.
 
2007-04-30 04:11:31 PM  
SlothB77:

You know, except for all those times in the Pennsylvania steel mills, like here:

That's actually only a casting ladle, and virtually all modern steel mills have moved on to electric arc furnaces, but you've still made a valid point.
 
2007-04-30 04:11:39 PM  
Sheeple, please!

/just came in here to say "sheeple"
 
2007-04-30 04:11:39 PM  
www.chrisrommel.com

PWNED!

amongst my first thoughts as well.
 
2007-04-30 04:11:39 PM  
www.nwrain.com

Inside job.
 
2007-04-30 04:12:28 PM  
Sivan Kurzberg.
 
2007-04-30 04:12:37 PM  
I heard that all the Jews who commute over that highway were told to stay home yesterday.
 
2007-04-30 04:13:14 PM  
www.savagelogic.com

FOOLS! Look at the proof!!
 
2007-04-30 04:15:41 PM  
I don't understand. The situations aren't analogous at all. How would this prove or disprove any theory?
 
2007-04-30 04:15:50 PM  
elchip

Hulk Hogan, man. You win.
 
2007-04-30 04:16:30 PM  
elchip: As far as I know, it was just some random guy

It was posted (and redlit) sometime last week from AJ's site. I assumed he wrote it but I guess maybe he grabbed it from someone else. Still funny as hell though.
 
2007-04-30 04:17:29 PM  
elchip

Thats it, thread over, you've stolen the win from Ancalagon. Thank you for that.

Now if only somone could debunk those...
 
2007-04-30 04:17:36 PM  
HotWingConspiracy: It doesn't prove or disprove anything. But that won't stop both sides from flinging poop like bands of angry orangutans.
 
2007-04-30 04:18:07 PM  
VIDEO!!!! Sorry, doesn't pop.
 
2007-04-30 04:18:24 PM  
Did Rosie really say "9/11 was the first time fire ever melted metal" ???

If so, wow, just wow.
 
2007-04-30 04:19:58 PM  
I heard from a very reliable source that there were no j00's anywhere near the overpass when the tanker exploded....

Coincidence? I THINK NOT!!!
 
2007-04-30 04:19:58 PM  
elchip -- I did not LOL. I sat in stunned amazement at the sheer brilliance of it. Too shocked to laugh my arse off.

(two minutes go by)

Okay. Now I'm starting to laugh.

Amazing.

You win the Internet.
 
2007-04-30 04:20:07 PM  
so this would be what, the second time in human history that fire has melted steel?
 
2007-04-30 04:20:36 PM  
Y'know, just because you loathe the president and everything he stands for (and I do) doesn't mean you have to believe every accuasation made against him. Especially not accusations that would have him hatching needlessly intricate, nay, Rube Goldbergian, plots that would involve hundreds or thousands of people, none of whom have had a pang of conscience and come forward in the last six years.

Did Bush take maximum political advantage of 9/11 in order to secure Republican domination and big bucks for Halliburton? You bet!

Did Bush make 9/11 happen so that he could take maximum political advantage of it in order to secure Republican domination and big bucks for Halliburton? Very unlikely.

Did Bush make 9/11 happen by shooting a missile at the Pentagon, claiming it was a plane, throwing two actual planes at WTC but have the destruction accomplished by explosives cached within the buildings, shooting down a flight over rural Pennsylvania, and fabricating several reams of records? No. Don't be a dumbass.
 
2007-04-30 04:21:00 PM  
So, let me see if I have this straight:

Bush & Friends can't even get away with firing 8 lawyers without news of it being turning into a national scandal.

But...Bush & Friends are savvy enough to orchestrate the most diabolical plot in our history, killing thousands, and nobody among the thousands of people that would've been involved in this elaborate plot has opened their yap to anyone, anywhere. Oh yeah, and if Bush & Friends are so good at hoaxing people, why didn't we "find" any WMD's in Iraq? If they could kill over 3,000 people on our own soil it wouldn't be hard to plant a small nuke in a bunker near Baghdad and call it Saddam's.

Right. Look folks, I hate Bush too. That doesn't mean that I surrender my logic at the same time. Look at the reaction to Hurricane Katrina and tell me that "the gubmint" is really on top of things. Bush, and everyone that works for him is too stupid to pull something like this off.
 
2007-04-30 04:21:05 PM  
Obviously the ppl who claim that "fire cannot melt steel" have never held a match to a (non-soapy) steel wool pad. It burns, it oxidizes, it's gone!
 
2007-04-30 04:21:10 PM  
HotWingConspiracy: I don't understand. The situations aren't analogous at all. How would this prove or disprove any theory?

The twin towers falling were not analogous to the fire/mesh experiment from Spare Change, either.

The point is that fire and impact can mess up a structure but good. And that Rosie made a questionable choice in developing her new "fangs out insane dyke" personae.
 
2007-04-30 04:21:46 PM  
lajaunie: You'll notice that the concrete roadway that "pancaked down" on the roadway below did not cause the lower freeway to collapse. Nor has the concrete disintegrated into a fine powder.

I certainly would have expected it to, considering that one causeway has roughly the same mass as 30 stories of a skyscraper.
 
2007-04-30 04:21:53 PM  
That fire was nothing compared to when I have to tinkle.
 
2007-04-30 04:22:12 PM  
spleef420: so this would be what, the second time in human history that fire has melted steel?

Yeah, but the first time on the west coast.
 
2007-04-30 04:22:19 PM  
elchip

9) The Death Star had planet-destroying capabilities, as it had previously demostrated with the complete annihilation of the planet of Alderaan. Yet it did not utilize that power to remove the planet of Yavin, which would have provided the Death Star with an unobstructed shot of the moon which housed the rebel base. Instead, the order was given to wait until the Death Star could orbit around Yavin until a clear shot was available. This gave the rebel fighters enough time to mount its successful attack against the Death Star.
 
2007-04-30 04:22:19 PM  
Ah, if I weren't at work, I would totally do that photoshop.
 
2007-04-30 04:23:12 PM  
v=ma ?
 
2007-04-30 04:23:22 PM  
The Jews were buying highway construction futures the day before this happened.
 
2007-04-30 04:23:30 PM  
elchip: Where did you get that from..., 911LooseCredits.org?

/that was funny!
 
2007-04-30 04:24:34 PM  
"The twin towers falling were not analogous to the fire/mesh experiment from Spare Change, either."

Ok. Never watched it.

The point is that fire and impact can mess up a structure but good.

Well yeah. Fire and impact will do a number on a wooden barn too. I wouldn't compare it to a sky scraper though.
 
2007-04-30 04:24:36 PM  
This is comparing apples and oranges:

White-hot 200 foot flames acting on a single truss (and no ability to redistribute the load once weakened.)

No molten metal and certainly no thermate found
No column failure
No evaporation / pulverization of concrete
No "pancake collapse"

In the case of the 2 towers, the fires were much weaker and far less hot. Why did all of the columns fail at the exact same time and the building neatly collapsed into its own footprint? Finally, explain the third building - building 7.
 
2007-04-30 04:24:36 PM  
Bwahahahahhah
 
2007-04-30 04:24:44 PM  
Lajaunie

4. You'll notice that the concrete roadway that "pancaked down" on the roadway below did not cause the lower freeway to collapse. Nor has the concrete disintegrated into a fine powder.


I'd expect that freeways are designed to higher specifications and loads than floors in office buildings. Meaning that they'd be better able to withstand the impact and hold the additional weight without failing.


5. You'll notice the columns were not torn down by the collapse, nor did they evaporate into thin air, rather they are still standing (having only lost the the truss and connectors that held the roadway to them.)


The columns were insulated by thick layers of concrete and they were not in the literal "line of fire" (heat rises as I'm sure you are aware).
 
2007-04-30 04:25:05 PM  
elchip:DO IT! For the sake of all that is good and decent, you must DO IT!
 
2007-04-30 04:25:06 PM  
liberal nutjobs just want an excuse to blame bush for everything bad that happens in this country
 
2007-04-30 04:25:30 PM  
elchip: /worked for John Titor

So you must be getting a kick out of these responses.

(hey, you put it out there...)
 
2007-04-30 04:25:31 PM  
Lee451: That fire was nothing compared to when I have to tinkle.

Well, that'll happen when you fark a girl named "Chastity."
 
2007-04-30 04:25:50 PM  
elchip, I am in total awe. Bravo! That pic is icing on the cake.
 
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