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(Denver Channel)   Telemarketer pays Denver man for violating the "no-call" list   ( divider line
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2002-08-20 10:46:16 PM  
Lunatic Tassle I've gotten calls exactly like that. If I gave her an answer that wasn't one of the choices she had to read it all over. I wonder if that was you??? I don't consider that "telemarketing" though, in the same sense as the guy calling me to sell me aluminum siding is telemarketing.
2002-08-20 10:46:53 PM  
Generation D: Good for you. I still don't think your particular experience means that the situation is going to be the same for anyone else without the same background. People need to eat and pay the rent. Would you rather them not? It's the fault of the companies for employing those marketing techniques, not the people need to work.
2002-08-20 10:47:42 PM  
Lunatic Tassle: Reading your post, I was excitedly thinking for a minute that I was going to use the phrase "I eat playdo." the next time a tm calls me.

But then I got to your last sentence where you say it's different now. Dang.

Maybe I'll do it anyway, just to see what the tm says.

phone: ring
me: (picking up phone) hello?
tm: Hi. Is this Mrs. CreepyNeighborGuy?
me: this is MR. creepyneighborguy. There is no Mrs.
tm: Ok. I'm calling from BigFarkingCorp and we are interested in seeing if you'd like to refinance your mortgage.
me: I eat playdough.
tm: excuse me?
me: Ever notice that the orange crayon doesn't taste like oranges?
tm: sorry?
me: you should be sorry, d4mmit! (hanging up)
2002-08-20 10:48:12 PM  
hmmm, guess generation told me ....
2002-08-20 10:48:44 PM  
All the same, I really would like to use some of these anti-telemarketing techniques. But I'm off the radar pretty much, and I don't get those calls! Whoo-hah.
2002-08-20 10:49:15 PM  
It's wierd when I think back on my telemarketing days, because they seem so cliche, but we even had to call the cops on one "customer" because he claimed he was going to kill himself and then hung up. Dude, we have your phone number. Turns out he didn't commit suicide.
2002-08-20 10:50:55 PM  
Look, I don't hate the people who actually do the calling... most of the time. I do hate the companies that do the telemarketing, and the companies they do the phone spam for. I don't consider telemarketing to be a "real job" because it's a dead-end job taken mainly by people who are desperate for temporary employment. I've known people who have worked in telemarketing and I've never heard anything good about it. Basically they just needed a paycheck until they found a real job. However, I think that in most places in the United States you can find a better job that pays more than telemarketing. Before I ever worked in telemarketing I would put up a website begging for money.
2002-08-20 10:53:53 PM  
For all those who are defending telemarketers, just replace the job title with things such as mugger, thief, alderman, prostitute, etc.

As long as the result is that the person doing it is getting paid so as to put food on the table and pay the mortgage, the job is acceptable?

Yes, he robs gas stations at gunpoint, but at least he's working, right? If he didn't do THAT, he'd have to go on the dole.
2002-08-20 10:54:51 PM  
Begoggle Were you very satisfied, satisfied, disatisfied or very disastified with the service you received?
2002-08-20 10:58:12 PM  
or even dissatisfied. When I can spell, I do it wel.
2002-08-20 10:59:53 PM  
Hahaha I knew that was you LT

I was Very Satisfied with the phone service, but it took them awhile to fix it. Seems my phone line was hooked up to someone else's and every time I picked up my phone I heard other people's conversations, and I was getting their calls.
2002-08-20 11:02:05 PM  
So any news on that spammer guy from a few days back?

I am the lord king of flood protection, by the way.
2002-08-20 11:04:23 PM  
That guy is awesome. That guy is a true hero. I bet that telemarketer had to get a real job after that happened.
2002-08-20 11:08:25 PM  
...and the trolls come out at night...
2002-08-20 11:13:10 PM  
I was a Telemarketer for a long while.heres a normal call (I might add I gave away free vacations):

Me: Hi this is Matt calling on behalf of Trendwest Vacations, and your number has been picked to a vaction at not cost to you.


Me: Erm...Miss I'm giving it to you at 'no' cost.

Them: AREN'T you listening to me..wank wank wank....blah blah blah...take me off your list.

Me:Alrighty, *writes them down on hit list*

Most of the time if the person is an ass. We'd pass the number around and call back saying we from different companys. Or even the white house asking for extra taxes. Sucka.
2002-08-20 11:13:55 PM  
um Lunatic Tassle that was NOT telemarketing, that was market research. In order for it to be telemarketing you have to be trying to sell something. I've done both jobs. Telemarketing research isn't so bad.
2002-08-20 11:14:15 PM  
Begoggle once your mother authorized the release of your private line, everything was straightened out. Sorry for the delay and we apologize for any inconvenience. It has been a pleasure to serve you. :)
2002-08-20 11:17:48 PM  
Most of the time if the person is an ass. We'd pass the number around and call back saying we from different companys. Or even the white house asking for extra taxes. Sucka.

Well, that doesn't sound scummy at all. /sarcasm

You do realize that you were the one being rude in the first place by harassing people with stupid offers.
2002-08-20 11:19:25 PM  
Lunatic Tassle

My mom says "hi", by the way. She wants to know when you are coming back again. She wants to make you a nice home-cooked meal.
2002-08-20 11:21:45 PM  

You were not giving away free vacations. You were offering to put people in a real shiatty room at some resort in exchange for planting them in front of a hard-sell timeshare salesperson for three hours.

These days, its even worse. You put your name and number in some "contest box" only to be assured of receiving a call telling you that you have won "a free vacation."

Real sleazy way to sell something, if you ask me.
2002-08-20 11:23:56 PM  
Rosalea you are right, but it still seemed corrupt when I was doing it. We were doing market research for AT&T, but we the way we handled it was kinda shady. We weren't working for AT&T, we were working for Eldrick and Lavidge. But we had to say in our "script," Hello, my name is Lunatic Tassle and I'm calling for AT&T, blah blah blah. We weren't calling for AT&T, we were calling for a company that was conducting employee evaluations on AT&T employees. Some customers would try to pry information out of us like "is this AT&T?" And basically we would respond, "yes, we are calling for AT&T." Everything was a game of avoiding the real question. Everyone should have this job.
2002-08-20 11:26:58 PM  
Lunatic Tassle sounds typical :) I used to do microsoft surveys all the time....but we weren't allowed to say we were calling for microsoft, so we all had to say "we aren't told that information, so that we don't byass the survey" bleh. But hey it beats selling vinyl sidding (telemarketing position I had)
2002-08-20 11:29:14 PM  
Begoggle I love your mom. See ya Saturday!!
2002-08-20 11:30:19 PM  
LT Will you be coming alone this time? I'm still not sure which one is you and which is your sister...
2002-08-20 11:31:22 PM  
Weird, I'm not allowed to bold tag LT...
2002-08-20 11:32:37 PM  
I've actually taken one of those "free vacation" salespeople up on their offer. I knew what it was, but I wanted to see what it was like, and I had a weekend to kill, and (unfortunately) I had a thought something like "How bad could it be?"

I had to pay them a refundable deposit to go in the first place. They explained the part about the sales pitch, and that I would get all my money back if I sat through it. Well, again, no big deal, right?

They put myself, my wife and my daughter in a single suite in what had to be the cheapest accomodations possible. They insisted that we meet them at 7AM for the presentation the following morning. I don't know about you, but waking up at 7AM does not a vacation make.

After the presentation was done, which was about 11AM, we were told that we could stay one more night and a full day for free. We collected our refund and left. They really expected a family to stay in one room (NOBODY slept) and come away with a positive impression?

Total dollar cost: $0.00 (unless you factor in the fuel to drive three hours each way, and a wasted two days of vacation time in dollars. In that case, it was a mere $510.00)
2002-08-20 11:34:03 PM  
B--you'll recognize me, I'm the older one. :)
2002-08-20 11:35:03 PM  
Begoggle-"You do realize that you were the one being rude in the first place by harassing people with stupid offers."

Agreed, I hated buggin people at any time, I just did it for the money. Made mad cash.
2002-08-20 11:35:48 PM  
testing LT
2002-08-20 11:36:36 PM  
I can't bold me either!!
2002-08-20 11:38:03 PM  
I always sign up for those giveaways using the name Alaok Dibar. I give them my second line, one I used to use for dial up internet before I got dsl.

I make appointments and then fail to show, so they can call me again. I love wasting their time!
2002-08-20 11:39:43 PM  
LT- are you identical twins?
2002-08-20 11:43:38 PM  
B Nope, I'm older by 2.5 years. But everyone mistakes me for the younger one, which pisses my sister off.
2002-08-20 11:49:37 PM  
LT- OK well I'll get the basement cleaned and the segway greased up for your visit! I'm off...
2002-08-20 11:55:10 PM  
my username would give you an idea of what i am. But since 9/11 guess what i am doing. Laff it off guys. What goes around comes around. i didn't choose to do what i do rite now. but someone has got to pay the bills. damn if i go on welfare.
anyone comparing them to prostitutes needs to get their head examined. just think about what you say or write.
a job is a job. just try sitting on the phone and getting people to swear at you and ridicule you day in and day out. i've been out of the workforce and believe me it's not a pretty situation to be in.
some of you might or might not have had a bad experience. some of you are just jumping on the bandwagon of slugging cos its cool.
and the robber, mugger, thief, etc. do not pay taxes and do not harm people. get on the phone buddy and you'll know who does the harming. get your analogies rite and be realistic.
i'll probably be calling you tommorrow. please be nice.
take care.
2002-08-20 11:56:03 PM  
Lets see, whats this thread about *scrolls to top of page* hmmm...uhh, blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda Oh, there it is, the no-call list. It just started in texas @ the beginning of august and I haven't been pestered once. $4.00 for 3 years on the no-call list is damn well worth it. Screw the annoying MF'ers.
2002-08-20 11:56:14 PM  
B Make sure it's running this time, kay?

BTW, "greased up" kinda turns me on...
2002-08-20 11:57:35 PM  

My point exactly (and that of many others, i'm sure)

Anyway, off to bed. see you next thread.
2002-08-21 12:09:38 AM  
2002-08-21 12:13:27 AM  
Here in Minnesota, some guy answers telemarketing calls with a written statement that he created in law school with his professor about how he would only take this call as long as the caller understood that he was acting as a consultant, and that he charged $499.99. I don't know why that amount is used, maybe there's a legal thing about $500 or somthing. Maybe it's taxable over that amount. Anyhow, he listens to the seller's spiel, politely declines the product, and then sends a bill of sale to the parent company. He collects, too. He tape records his calls, I guess -- which is legal in some states. I do know that it is here, for some reason. Every now and then I read about him in the paper. He knows what he's doing, he knows the law better than most attornies, and most firms just settle out of court with him because it costs too much to bother fighting it and hiring lawyers etc.... He's really a pit-bull when it comes to getting paid, too. He demands reimbursement for court costs, filing fees, everything. That guy ought to write a book. A few thousand guys like him would end the entire junk-call industry pretty quick.
2002-08-21 12:23:12 AM  
I am pretty sure the wiretap law that covers what you describe is a federal law. So long as you inform the caller that they are being recorded, it is legal. If you choose not to tell them they are being recorded, you have to send a tone every some-number of seconds. If you do that, you DONT have to tell them. They are supposed to know, or something.

I recall reading something that it was perfectly legal to record a phone call that you receive and are participating in, but i'll never find the article again even if I tried.
2002-08-21 12:31:59 AM  
This is me B.

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I'm riding the blue train.
2002-08-21 12:49:07 AM  
My favorite telemarketers are the ones who don't have a decent grasp of how to pronounce my first/last name, or can't figure out if mine or my wife's first name are male or female. That way I know to hang up right away, or if I want to, have a little fun with them.

I have a long German surname beginning with K. It's common to hear any number of mangled versions of it: Ketchup, Camshaft, Capshaw, whatever.

My wife's name is Gretchen. Once I got a call from a guy with a funny accent asking for Mr. Gretchen. No, not even Mrs. or Ms. Gretchen. Mister Gretchen. I laughed so hard I almost forgot to hang up.
2002-08-21 12:52:31 AM  
LT- Blue train??
2002-08-21 01:01:06 AM  

My answering machine has the 3tone "this number has been disconnected" music before my message. Telemarketing computers automatically remove your number from their list as soon as they hear the 3tones. That's how that 50$ Tele-zapper™ works, except I downloaded the 3tones for free.
2002-08-21 01:36:15 AM  

2002-08-21 01:46:45 AM  
Along the same line as AynRandIsGod! mentioned above; just ask your friendly telemarketer for their full name,credit card # and billing address. Then explain that if they wish to continue the call they will be billed X dollars per minute for your time and X dollars per minute equipment charge for the wear and tear on your telecommunications infrastructure. It just confuses the hell out of them. As for taping calls I'm pretty sure it is legal in WI as long as at least one party involved in the call is aware that the call is being taped. However if the call crosses state lines Federal rules would apply.
2002-08-21 01:54:21 AM  
Lunatic Tassle sayeth:

"I tell the the next available representative (in my sweetest voice) that I understand there's a problem in my area, but I am a diabetic and I desperately need my phone, "just in case". She says, "oh you really need your phone." "uh huh," I respond, innocently. Well, 2 seconds later MY PHONE IS WORKING. Ok, it might be a huge coincidence, but I'm thinking phone people take illness very serioulsy."

I worked for AT&T for a short time. Part of my job there included dealing with Verizon to get their worthless asses out to fix wire problems at customer's homes. Verizon were supposed to deal with residential outages inside of 48 hours (I think), but we generally felt lucky if we could get a technician out in 72.

The only exception? Customers with medical problems. More specifically --- customers with medical devices that were attached to their phone lines. These customers had time to fix limits of 8 hours, and generally were fixed a LOT faster than that.

My guess is that the next available representative that LT spoke to considered her to be in this special class of customers, and got the line fixed extra-pronto.

I imagine that this policy stems from the really bad press that would come from people DYING due to the phone company's utter ineptitude.

Moral: If you want your phone fixed with lightning speed, tell 'em that grandma is visting and her dialysis machine has been making odd noises since the phone line went tits up...
2002-08-21 01:58:32 AM  
From Sensurround's Bio --

sorry bout the asshole posting gross pics... taken care of, please dont ban me

C'mon, man. We know it's you.

2002-08-21 03:05:14 AM  
Not exactly a telemarketing problem, but I had the misfortune of having my number mistakenly placed on the letterhead of an investment firm in Iowa (I was living in North Carolina at the time). So I was getting lots of daily calls from their customers, and had to explain to them that no, I didn't sell securities, and that they had the wrong number. I notified the company but they didn't seem very concerned about the issue.

I finally got tired of wasting my time, and began answering the phone with:

"North Carolina Mortuary Services...You Kill'Em, We Chill'Em...Some Go to Heaven, Some Go to HELLO, how can I help you?"

The wrong numbers hung up FAST. And the company fixed their damned letterhead promptly thereafter.

Freaked out my Mom when she called, though.
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