Doing LSD for scientific purposes....

Only the Canadian gov't would fall for that one

Just another bad trip for him.

suck it hippies

the US was big into it in the 60's as well

the war on drugs is still a war on the citizens of the USA... I think people should have the freedom to fark themselves up if they want.. there is no reason we can't base government assistance on being able to pass a drug test... truth is they don't want to take the poor off drugs as they might wake up and see what their government has been doing to them all this time

deagler: Doing LSD for scientific purposes....
Only the Canadian gov't would fall for that one

Better to test it on the willing than testing it on unwilling prisoners and uninformed soldiers like the CIA and MI6 did.

"The psychotherapist's world was about to turn upside down."

Were they talking about the border crossing, or the LSD trip?

Good work america, continue to reinforce that statistically proven global fear of your customs staff.

You can be barred from entry to the US because you have GRID?

There is a God!

nih-TotalFark

Good work america, continue to reinforce that statistically proven global fear of your customs staff.

well he wasn't hungry, tired or huddled in a mass so why would we welcome him?

deagler: Doing LSD for scientific purposes....

Only the Canadian gov't would fall for that one


Ok are you a troll or a tard? I'm honestly curious to know...

"Persons with AIDS, tuberculosis, infectious diseases are inadmissible," Milne said. And then there is Section IV. "Anyone who is determined to be a drug abuser or user is inadmissible. A crime involving moral turpitude is inadmissible and one of those areas is a violation of controlled substances."

I think I want to commit a crime involving moral turpitude. It would be something to tell my grandchildren.

/is it anything to do with turnips?

The only people who should be allowed to test dangerous drugs on the public are the government and big pharma.

Cyber_Junk: Ok are you a troll or a tard? I'm honestly curious to know...

I'm thinking more in the lines of a naive latter

Customs uses Google to screen people?

Phil Moskowitz: is it anything to do with turnips?

it could be... or maybe refinishing a wooden cross incorrectly

My dad tried to go to the US for some training thing, and they kept him in a small room for hours screaming at him. They told him that they "hate farking canadians" and that they thought he might be a terrorist. They kept yelling at him to confess to this or that, and threatened him with imprisonment if he didn't cooperate. Finally they led him through the entire airport (mostly through walkways not on the main concourse) to the first flight back to Canada (not even to the same city he came from!). All of this was because back in 1971 he was arrested for drug possession (weed).

Yet we elect a man Pres. who admited (kind of) to doing DRUGS.

qwave54: My dad tried to go to the US for some training thing, and they kept him in a small room for hours screaming at him. They told him that they "hate farking canadians" and that they thought he might be a terrorist. They kept yelling at him to confess to this or that, and threatened him with imprisonment if he didn't cooperate. Finally they led him through the entire airport (mostly through walkways not on the main concourse) to the first flight back to Canada (not even to the same city he came from!). All of this was because back in 1971 he was arrested for drug possession (weed).

a lot of people in the Oil industry that work internationally from Canada can not fly through the US because of past drug offenses. although you can get a seamans pass with no background check for arrests...

"I didn't heed the ancient Alchemists' dictum, 'Do, dare, and be silent,'" Feldmar says

And there is the problem - too many people that do follow the dictum.

Idiot prohibitionists need to realize they will lose a huge percentage of the smarter people they probably care about if they keep this stuff up.

Either that or the USA turns into "Idiocracy" even more...

/which is probably more likely anyway. sigh.

No Catchy Nickname: I think I want to commit a crime involving moral turpitude. It would be something to tell my grandchildren.

/is it anything to do with turnips?


I think it involves paint thinner.

deagler: Doing LSD for scientific purposes....

Only the Canadian gov't would fall for that one

Well, in the 1950s my father took LSD as part of a controlled medical experiment. He was a broke-ass actor in New York city who would sign up for medical experiments for extra cash...

...yes, I know that I am the obvious result.

Yay! Fark just wished me a happy birthday.

I remember my first acid trip (I think I was 24 or so at the time)...it kicked in while I was taking a piss, and all of a sudden the "marbled-looking" toilet lid started to swirl and pulse. Holy shiat! Then came the trails from waving my cig around. There just happened to be a DragonBall-Z marathon on TV at the same time, which was nice.

/True story
//It's my birthday...I'm 30
///Haven't tripped in a long time...
//what was I saying?
/huh?

Blood Knight: Yay! Fark just wished me a happy birthday.

I remember my first acid trip (I think I was 24 or so at the time)...it kicked in while I was taking a piss, and all of a sudden the "marbled-looking" toilet lid started to swirl and pulse. Holy shiat! Then came the trails from waving my cig around. There just happened to be a DragonBall-Z marathon on TV at the same time, which was nice.

/True story
//It's my birthday...I'm 30
///Haven't tripped in a long time...
//what was I saying?
/huh?

Happy BD... the bathroom was always a nice way to judge how stron it was... that and being able to taste the acid bite when dropping... had a prof in college that made it under perfect lab conditions... for invites to our parties... sweet

Interesting read, Subby.

I find it hard to blame the Border Patrol, it seems they followed a vague and open ended statute pretty much BTB.

Scary

qwave54: Yet we elect a man Pres. who admited (kind of) to doing DRUGS.

Given the reasons for banishing the person this article is about, GWB should have his passport revoked.

What is it about bathrooms? All of the walls in my house are made of the same shiat, yet on 4 grams of shrooms only the bathroom walls bled. The other walls were pretty much normal

One of my favorite historical anecdotes from the testing era was Ken Kesey's: They were testing the stuff, and folks were drawing crazy things on the walls..

Meanwhile the docs were being all serious-like, evaluating things like the subject's sense of time.. He freaked them out by consistently telling them when a minute had passed. From other examinations, he knew what his heartrate was averaging, so he just counted beats till he knew a minute had passed.

I don't like the passport taking and the fingerprinting.

JerkyMeat- You know, that reminds me of something a buddy of mine from the military and I where talking about the other day. He was telling me about an illegal Mexican who works with him. Apperantly, the employers know that he is illegal, and love the fact. What they basically do is pay the guy $5 an hour and tell the illegal that if he complains, the employers will simply call up INS and have his ass deported.

I was willing to take this as a relatively isolated incedeant until he pointed out something kind of interesting. Remember that article on Fark a few days ago, talking about the shooting at the U.S./Mexico border? Remember how the National Gaurd troops stationed there where not even armed? My buddy said, "Think about this. Those guys face human trafficing, rapists, international drug cartels, and psychos of every stripe. They are sopposed to be guarding the border, keeping these kinds of people OUT of the country. Yet, they weren't even armed. But, when was the last time you saw a cop, whose job is mostly routine and is certainly not frequent gun battles with well armed drug dealers, without a gun? Kind of shows you where the governments priorities lie, doesn't it? The border is a farce because already wealthy men need cheap labor, but if they are enforcing on YOUR ass, you just better bet they will have guns."

Just food for thought.

Shrapnel

Kinky!

Yeah, Iknow that my entire post was a gramatical and spelling nightmare. It's four in the morning, where you really expecting coherance?

Well, Canada will refuse you admission if you have a DWI on your record, so pot, meet kettle.

Frank Zappa wrote a piece based on the visa form, you know - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ2QRew6Vc8

Kakistocracy: What is it about bathrooms?

Isolation. Drowning out other inputs (music, chatter, crazy lights, etc)...it lets your mind wander and feel the full effects with no distraction.

/just IMO
//Played the album "Meddle" (Pink Floyd) once with a couple of friends of mine while on a trip...dead silent for the duration of the whole CD...they both bought it and count it among their favorites.
///Good times...

Kakistocracy: What is it about bathrooms? All of the walls in my house are made of the same shiat, yet on 4 grams of shrooms only the bathroom walls bled. The other walls were pretty much normal

ghosts of periods past?

I like to laugh at how badly and constantly anti-drug enforcement fails. The sad part is, when it doesn't work, instead of looking for an alternative people just decide they aren't doing the same stupid thing enough yet.

LSD is one of the best chemicals known to man that can bring problems with your mind to the surface and treat them. It has the capabilities to cure phobias, depressions and anxiety very quickly if used the right way and in the right situations as it grants access to parts of the brain normally closed off when sober to better create new connections to these experiences that cause the problems above. If it wasn't for Timothy Leary and other of his ilk spreading it around as a party drug we'd still have this drug to help people who suffer from these mental afflictions.

In fact there is a recent on going trial and talk of legalizing psilocin which is the psychoactive ingredient in shrooms (the common known ingredient psilocybin is just a precursor to psilocin) for medical use for these conditions.

Do you know that sense of warm, snug comfort fostered in us as children in America, that this is a just nation, the best mankind has ever known, etc.? Right at about 3rd grade? When I read about shiat like this, and when people point out that our own freaking president has done far, far worse himself, I realize how much of a scam that feeling was.

Thank you, subby, for TFA. I'm so pissed that I'm wide awake now, ready to trundle off to work for so many godforsaken assholes who've managed to grab control of our lives.

We've got to do something about the war on drugs.

Government and LSD have a long and interesting history:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mkultra

Oh, I do believe the end is nigh.

Isn't it getting scary? Is it just me, or are you terrified too?

Big Brother isn't just watching, he's breathing down our necks.

katefolsom: Oh, I do believe the end is nigh.

Isn't it getting scary? Is it just me, or are you terrified too?

Big Brother isn't just watching, he's breathing down our necks.

we're all culpable... we stand by and watch it happen... first they came for...

Yet more evidence of the farcical nature of the "War on Drugs".

I'm boned if they check on me. Not that I have any records, yet, but my internet presence admits to all sorts of shiat.

I think if I'm refused entry to the US I'll probably smile and say "OK". Thankfully I'm not travelling back and forth for work any more. I got some hassle when I went over for the 5th time in one year...

To echo Bill Hicks but on acid - LSD should not only be legal but mandatory. Just once at around the age of 20. People tend to know themselves better afterwards, and stop being total dicks (if they were beforehand).

katefolsom
Oh, I do believe the end is nigh.

Isn't it getting scary? Is it just me, or are you terrified too?

Big Brother isn't just watching, he's breathing down our necks.

Reminds me of a big issue someone once pointed out about our legal system, and I think they have a point.

In many countries - including the UK and US - there are so many laws that you can never be certain to avoid breaking one. So everyone's guilty of something, and if someone was to become 'inconvenient', the state can decide to enforce one of these ambient laws and prosecute the person. Everyone else is allowed to get away with it for the time being. This is a perfect example. He's a criminal only by the letter of the law - he's not actually a danger to anyone.

/The Westboro Baptists are the opposite. Perfectly legal, but utter dicks.

fark man, if this article is any indication, I better never leave the U.S. unless I don't plan on ever coming back (a real possibility)

Free the BC3!!! 27MAY07 extradition hearing.

Read on to the third page about the Patriot Act provisions and other cases, those are even more troubling.

kryptin420
LSD is one of the best chemicals known to man that can bring problems with your mind to the surface and treat them. It has the capabilities to cure phobias, depressions and anxiety very quickly if used the right way and in the right situations as it grants access to parts of the brain normally closed off when sober to better create new connections to these experiences that cause the problems above. If it wasn't for Timothy Leary and other of his ilk spreading it around as a party drug we'd still have this drug to help people who suffer from these mental afflictions.

In fact there is a recent on going trial and talk of legalizing psilocin which is the psychoactive ingredient in shrooms (the common known ingredient psilocybin is just a precursor to psilocin) for medical use for these conditions.


I'm all for whatever man.

I tried LSD, a few times. Scary shiat. Interesting shiat. All kinds of other words can describe it. I opened the 'doors of perception', just a crack, and slammed them shut again in a cold sweat.

I intend to try again sometime.

But, WTF are you talking about? No farking way am I going to start using it to actually try to affect permanent changes in my mental state. It may well be possible, but not without someone who knows wtf they are doing in charge of the process, and even then I'd be dubious.

Until then, I'm with Leary...keep it for flying around the bay. Ie, recreational. You have to be insane to think that you can just start dropping chemicals and expect to fix mental disorders.

Maybe Ambien and Nyquil work well together as an anti-depressant. Shall I start the experiments myself? I'll let you know when I'm a drooling idiot in a cork lined room.

What is your source for the recent ongoing talk about legalizing psilocybin, btw?