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2001-07-11 12:19:38 AM
"Another possibility is that struggling franchises might relocate to more profitable markets."

It's pretty clear that the commissioner is trying to blackmail teams to get more publicly funded stadiums with corporate names like "Hostess Ho-Ho Park" with that "fake old" look or he'll try to have them destroyed.

If these teams are really unprofitable, they sell or go out of business on their own without the commissioner's say-so.
 
2001-07-11 12:30:19 AM
Two stupid places for a baseball team:

a) Canada. No explanation needed.
b) Florida. You expect flocks of geezers to go see the devil rays lose another game?
 
2001-07-11 12:30:52 AM
Get rid of the Cubs...they're fulfilling biblical prophecy with all this winning
 
2001-07-11 12:33:09 AM
We could do with fewer teams in most sports. My picks to get booted-

Baseball- Montreal Expos, Florida Marlins, Toronto Blue Jays
Football- Cincinnati Bengals, Arizona Cardinals
Hockey- Tampa Bay Lightning
Soccer- All of them
Basketball- All of them, plus Spike Lee's live televised execution.
 
2001-07-11 12:34:05 AM
Good thing I moved out of Montreal when I did.

As for the Blue Jays ... they rock! (I suppose ... what the heck do I know about baseball?)
 
2001-07-11 12:38:53 AM
Why don't they remove the 'suckiest' team. Each year the last place team would cease to exist. Pretty soon, you would have rivalry, and attendence, like nobody's business (so to speak).
 
2001-07-11 12:59:46 AM
I like that idea. The English premier league does the same thing. But they also have a second-tier league which promotes a team to take the loser's place.
 
2001-07-11 01:03:59 AM
My dad once suggested that every player on the last place team be executed :)

How's THAT for motivation. heh heh.
 
2001-07-11 01:06:47 AM
Don't worry about the Cubs. Once they get that boulder to the top of the hill, it'll roll down the other side.
 
2001-07-11 01:09:49 AM
Chan Ho Park was in a unique situation that was a good motivator. As a Korean citizen you have to serve in the military no matter what. The government agreed that if he came back and pitched for the national baseball team, and they won the Oriental playoffs they were having that he wouldn't have to serve in the military. The guy was stinking it up for the Dodgers that year but pitched his ass off and Korea won. Talk about motivation: if you lose you have to serve in the military and lose your job where you make 5 million a year.
 
2001-07-11 01:24:11 AM
dont forget bout tha Angels cuz dizney dont want em no more
 
2001-07-11 02:59:36 AM
They should adopt the British Premier League way of doing things and send the two crappiest teams down to the minors. That'd work well I think
 
2001-07-11 04:37:33 AM
I say they move a sucky team to Lexington, and they solicit $380 million from the guys who run this website to build the fark.com superdome.
 
2001-07-11 06:53:37 AM
How about removing baseball all together?
Players get paid WAY too much for something that does not even qualify as a sport.
 
2001-07-11 08:12:02 AM
Anyone who wants to stress over the Cubs winning games should move to Chicago and share the burden with me. I just happen to be a lifelong fan of Chicago's OTHER baseball team (the one that went to the playoffs last year, yet ESPN still didn't notice 'em; yeah they suck this year, go figure).

Chicago is absolutely farking overrun with fair-weather Cubs fans. It's revolting. Never mind that 85% of these people don't know a damn thing about baseball - it's all about the Cubbies and what a "great and classic space" Wrigley Field is. Ever actually BEEN to Wrigley? Yeah, it's old and still in use, which is kinda cool, but it reeks of urine and spilled Budweiser (which, now that I think about it, don't smell all that different). Go to a Cubs game - if you can get tickets. Note how many people are actually WATCHING the farking game and how many are chatting on cell phones, chatting with each other with their backs to the field, sucking down endless beers.

This explains why the Cubs suck year after year: the corporate owners realize you don't need to put a quality team on the field to fill seats. The Wrigleyville "mystique" never fails to attract a full house of frat boy wannabes.

It's not a baseball stadium. It's the world's biggest sports bar. And yes, fair-weather Cubs fans live up to every sports-bar denizen stereotype there is.

I hate 'em all.


-Sharv

ps: the old die-hard Cubs fans are kinda cool, in a pathetic way.
 
2001-07-11 08:14:41 AM
Okay... Baseball sucks.
A quote from the book of Carlin would put it all into perspective.
 
2001-07-11 08:37:58 AM
Talk about obvious... of COURSE people aren't watching the game.

Baseball is boring. Unless you take a drink for every time some fat dude in a pinstripe uniform scratches his balls, your eyes are gonna glaze over and your brain will go into terminal shutdown mode.

Now soccer... that's a game. The Fire, Chicago's OTHER OTHER team, you know, the one with a league championship and a pair of U.S. Open Cup championships in the past three years... the one that is undefeated against international teams... they're leading their division, their coach will lead one of the teams for All-Star game, and they've got a couple of guys who start for the national team, and will be going to the World Cup. Those boys are gonna have more rings than a pimp in a 70s movie.
 
2001-07-11 08:43:01 AM
The Brooklyn Dodgers, New York Giants, Philadelphia Athletics, Boston Braves, Washington Senators(twice!), and St. Louis Browns should have stayed where God put them. Oh, and 162 games is more than enough to decide who should go to the World Series, without all of this playoff nonsense.
 
2001-07-11 08:45:07 AM
Screw 'em all. All big money/guaranteed contract sports.

My ex-wife had the best idea I had ever heard on the matter of overpaid ballplayers and the degeneration of sports in general. Pay for performance. Set parameters for each sport and each position and pay accordingly. $500.00 for a single, $1000.00 for a double, $5000.00 for a home run, $750.00 per strike out, etc. Any two-bit lawyer could draw up a fair and equitable contract based on that.

Don't perform? Move over Sparky, the next kids in line will. Make these a-holes working men like they used to be. Make them blue collar boys instead of the pseudo elite they think they are.

But you know what? It will never happen. Never. It can't. When you live in a society where 3% of the population have 90% of the money, it will never happen. The good old days are gone boys. Make way for the billionaire ball player and the $25.00 dollar beer. But don't look for me. I'll be down at the khoury league park watching some real baseball.
 
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2001-07-11 08:47:50 AM
I LOVE BASEBALL!! And with this proposal Ill never have to worry about "the man" removing my beloved yankees :-D
 
2001-07-11 09:32:04 AM
Baseball is a microcosm of life. Whoever has the most money, wins. It will be forever and ever, New York, Los Angeles, Atlanta, Etc.

And in their shallow minds, if they think that their victories are fair, then it's indicative of how skewed their outlooks are in general. I wouldn't piss on Steinbrenner or Turner if their asses were on fire. Here's hoping their corporate jets collide in midair and rain down on the yuppies in the box seats at the next world series.

(And yes I'm bitter and pissed. I was raised on baseball and to see it turn out like it has is like watching you kids grow up to be a cross-dressing fag hooker. A little disappointing. Save your snide retorts for someone who gives a rats ass.)
 
2001-07-11 09:38:46 AM
That's right. Baseball is no longer a sport - it's a business.
 
2001-07-11 09:57:03 AM
I say we remove all sports and instead have pay per view thunder domes.

Two men enter, one man leaves.

wait......sorry.......

Two persons enter, one person leaves.

And on rare occasions, have en masse Thunderdome, where groups of people enter, and only the surviros of one group leaves.

That or give the rugby players weapons. (not my idea, saw a movie once, not sure what it was called but it was set in the typical desert area of a post apocalyptic world. They counted thinngs by throwing stones at something. They had to run a ball to one side and spear it on a stick. Had weapons and chains and such. Decent movie.)
 
2001-07-11 10:11:40 AM
"Beisbol been berry berry good to me,until they kicked my crappy team's ass outta the league."
The All-Star game was yesterday so that means Football is right around the corner.
Go Bears!!!!!!!!
 
2001-07-11 10:15:46 AM
I always liked the idea of land-mines in the outfeild, and a randomly timed explosive placed inside the baseball.
 
2001-07-11 10:31:32 AM
Everybody knows I don't give a rat's arse about baseball. Each state has three teams, and the sports networks spend frickin eons going over the "highlights", which are actually just the same nine clips being shown over and over again through different colour filters. What really gets me is the stats and useless numbers these commentators come up with during play.... I mean I know it's a slow game but do these guys actually have time to bang on their TS-30s and tell us that the dude batting only hits .294 against right-handed pitchers who tie their shoelaces crosswise while the fan directly behind him is wearing a red shirt on an odd-numbered Tuesday? Who fuggin cares?! Throw the ball!

The Expos are the only farm team allowed to play in the majors. People leave their team to go play for the spos until they get good, then they're traded again. Firing Alou was the latest mistake in a series of goofups that would make Mike Milbury proud.
 
2001-07-11 11:02:05 AM
All Tampa Bay teams suck. It is less painfull to eat a bowl of sandspurs than to follow any of them.
 
2001-07-11 11:29:46 AM
DeiterLee sandspurs..I haven't seen those in years..yowch.
 
2001-07-11 11:41:01 AM
Ok, in MY humble opinion...

This is the ONLY country in which such an activity could be completely big-business-ized. Good Lord... it is a damn game. There are few players anymore that see it that way. I am not gonna biatch about players making a million or two. We all know they drag in MILLIONS in revenue for a bunch of suits with no physical talent. So I say pay 'em healthily. Look at people like Ripken, Gwynn, Yount and *me*... playing for one team our entire career. Getting paid a LOT because we are of HALL OF FAME caliber, yet not jerking the chains of the boys in the front office by waving other offers in their faces. There are a few players that should be sainted throughout all of this mess.

However, when we get a commissioner who seems to suddenly think any team that cannot make a competitive bid for A-Rod (the devil) should be ousted from the league.

This sucks... in fact I cannot BELIEVE they didn't mention Kansas City. Kansas City is large enough with the metropolitan area there to draw heavy crowds when they have a COMPETITIVE team, but how the hell can you BE competitive without sick cash anymore? Kansas City is now perhaps the most successful farm club for the big dogs of the major league. This is all quite depressing. Baseball needs to be FIXED. Big business and greed has truly farked it all up.

*sob*
 
2001-07-11 11:42:06 AM
fvck you Skwidd!!!!
baseballs sucks hairy ass!!!
Shogo Yahagi...you are the smartest man i have run into so far on this damn forum!!
 
2001-07-11 01:13:35 PM
Milkit: Soccer fan, I presume? What soccer needs is a clock that shows what time the last goal was scored. Maybe an "x days since the last riot," sign for our friends across the pond.

In Charleston, there is a pro soccer team. When they play the highlights on the news, they are very careful to show only the field. Every time the camera accidentally pans up, all you see is the vast expanse of empty orange seats.

I give it 'til the end of the season.
 
2001-07-11 01:51:00 PM
Snort. Spoken like someone who forgets that groups of football and basketball fans trash their respective cities after every final.

Soccer is low scoring? The Fire racked up 7 against the defending league champions on the 4th of July, and the Columbus-Dallas game on saturday had 4 goals in 15 minutes.

Finally, the Charleston Battery are equivalent to the minor leaguers in any other sport. I wonder how many people show up to see the Danville Dans scratch their asses for 4 or 5 hours. The Battery were, last I heard, doing just fine on a gem of a field that even has it's own supporters' pub. Nice.
 
2001-07-11 01:56:13 PM
How about "X minutes since the last riot" would be more accurate. I'd rather put up with a $30 beer than worry about getting stabbed (which seems to happen a lot in South Africa) or have 324 people land on my head from the upper deck, or get mobbed by "hoolians" you know, the people that PURPOSLY fark with you because you like the home team.

Unfortunatly, in my corner of the world, soccor gets more and more popular every year. And the amount of kids on the soccer fields compared to the baseball diamonds are more equal than I've ever seen.

For the people that say baseball is not a sport...I've got news for you. You go out and try to play 162 games in 5 months, and we'll see how long you last. I don't think you'd make it to June personally.

So anyway, I hate the Yankees and big market teams. Gee, who's leading the AL Central?? Oh yeah, THE TEAM WITH THE LOWEST PAYROLL IN THE MAJORS!!! Cut the Twins, go FARK yourself Selig.
 
2001-07-11 02:33:52 PM
162 games of standing around, spitting and scratching my crotch?!?
i bet i could do it everyfarking day...as a matter of fact..i do!!!
so i guess i AM a baseball player!!!

as far as you being afraid of getting stabbed...thats just a crock of shiat...maybe in Africa...but who the fark would go see a soccer game there anyway...

Soccer is here to stay...baseball is on its way out...
How the fvck can you look at a baseball player's uniform and not laugh hysterically!??!

baseball is the only "sport" where you can be fat and old and still play...

fvck all that baseball crap....i hope they fvcking go on strike again...
 
2001-07-11 04:17:33 PM
Why wasn't the Philadelphia Phillies on the list?
 
2001-07-11 04:26:00 PM
There are a few reasons more kiddies are playing soccer now.

1) We are now such pussies that we like the "all kids make the team" sentiment.

2) ANY kid can play soccer... run around on the field chasing a ball. have you seen these little kids. Some spend an entire season without TOUCHING the ball. You have to TEACH baseball skills. There is a much higher learning curve in hitting a curveball... or fastball for that matter... that in running and occasionally kicking. Now I KNOW there are some talented players in the pros. But it is still boring.

*There are not as many dads left in this country who can or will take the time to play with their kids. What do you get in the end.... soccer moms.

So... in conclusion:
"The dissolution of the American Family is what has led to American soccer."

Help us all!
 
2001-07-11 04:54:25 PM
nobody taught me to get fat, spit and scratch my balls!!!
 
2001-07-11 04:56:29 PM
*lol*

me neither...
 
2001-07-11 05:30:11 PM
GeorgeBrett:
It's also a fact that many baseball players go a whole season without TOUCHING a curveball or a fastball. (We won't even go into discussing sliders.)
 
2001-07-11 05:32:44 PM
Better to fail at something difficult than to dribble all over onesself doing something easy.
 
2001-07-11 07:10:09 PM
Gotta agree with Milkit on one thing- baseball is on it's way out. It's boring.

And yes, soccer is low scoring.
 
2001-07-11 08:00:26 PM
GeorgeBrett:
That was the best post so far on this board! Soccer fans in the US can only hope that their soccer league makes it 5 more years. The WNBA is the same thing the only difference being that they are still in business because they are kept afloat by the NBA. Now if you want to see some good fun they should combine the two leagues and have them playing basketball and soccer on the same field. They could have both games going on at the same time and watch them run over each other. The WNBA players would probably have the upper hand because they wouldn't be crying on the ground and acting like they had their arm ripped off like soccer players do in order to try and get a penalty on the other team.
 
2001-07-11 08:47:03 PM
"Chicks dig the long ball."

Am I right?

lol
 
2001-07-11 11:05:58 PM
Right on, brutha.
 
2001-07-18 05:18:37 PM
fark
 
2001-07-18 05:19:19 PM
fark$nbsp;
 
2001-07-18 05:20:22 PM
fu ck
 
2001-07-18 05:32:44 PM
fark 
 
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