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2007-04-23 11:36:12 PM  
Of course it's cleaner. The streets just got thoroughly washed a couple of years back.

Philly is one farked up city. The funny thing is how many people there just love it to death and won't shut up about how truly awesome and unfairly maligned it is. You expect that shiat from New Yorkers, but ... Philly? It's like bragging about Baltimore or Milwaukee (both of which are actually nicer).
 
2007-04-23 11:36:35 PM  
kstaruk3-i agree. that red headed schmuk has to go. bob vila was the shiz. shoulda gave norm the keys, too.
 
2007-04-23 11:37:58 PM  
we have destroyed this fair world.
 
2007-04-23 11:39:31 PM  
What would a good conservative, such as yourself, do for N.O.?

/Nagin is an asshat. I really don't care to hear about him, or think of him as an effective Democratic politician.
//No one really seems to care about N.O, beyond the tragedy.
 
2007-04-23 11:45:41 PM  
That question was for Weaver95, btw.
 
2007-04-23 11:50:52 PM  
All Apologies: //No one really seems to care about N.O, beyond the tragedy.

Are we supposed to? Apart from the policing so bad that it makes Detroit look merely 'shiatty', when people decide to live in a coastal yet below-sea level city, in a hurricane prone area, I am sorely tempted to laugh when bad things happen to them.
 
2007-04-23 11:53:57 PM  
Detroit_Bob

Are we supposed to? Apart from the policing so bad that it makes Detroit look merely 'shiatty', when people decide to live in a coastal yet below-sea level city, in a hurricane prone area, I am sorely tempted to laugh when bad things happen to them.

Some people do, and some people don't.
 
2007-04-24 12:00:09 AM  
Beerguy:

I for one was truly offended by his "Chocolate City" remark.

/Still waiting for him to fired



Don't look for Willie Nagin to be fired anytime soon, he was just re-elected by those morons.

He brought his campaign to Houston and former NOLA residents were allowed to vote for him even though they had no intention of returning.
 
2007-04-24 12:02:36 AM  
I am sorely tempted to laugh when bad things happen to them.

I have no idea why some people will feel empathy, while others will find humor in such a situation. Not without better knowing everyone involved, I guess.
 
2007-04-24 12:12:40 AM  
I've had the opportunity to visit many of these cities lately, doing a tour of the U.S., and:

People are not lying here. These cesspools called "cities" really are cesspools.
 
2007-04-24 12:14:25 AM  
New Orleans is an attractive and successful American-city.
 
2007-04-24 12:19:09 AM  
I agree with Wild on the previous post about the elections. They were HIGHLY illegal in that people who had already lost their new orleans/louisiana citizenship were allowed to vote. But thats discrimination don't you know. BTW my parish is 90% white and the canadians were the first to arrive 4-5 days later and well after new orleans got aid if you truly believe bush hates black people.

/wishes mitch would have been elected
//he turned around the film industry and tourisim. The man is a great reformer.
 
2007-04-24 12:24:42 AM  
They were HIGHLY illegal in that people who had already lost their new orleans/louisiana citizenship were allowed to vote. But thats discrimination don't you know. BTW my parish is 90% white and the canadians were the first to arrive 4-5 days later and well after new orleans got aid if you truly believe bush hates black people.

Where do you go to get information like this?
 
2007-04-24 12:41:52 AM  
I live there, my father was a deputy during the storm. The news articles on the events, U.S. census demographics, ect... Ill post relevant links

Demographics for St. Bernard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bernard_Parish,_Louisiana#Demographics

A story on Canadian intervention
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/09/15/MNGF3ENTE71.DTL

Timeline of Katrina Events
http://thinkprogress.org/katrina-timeline

Searching for a link for texas code, will update
 
2007-04-24 12:47:49 AM  
Ill post relevant links

Relevant to what though? What are you saying?
 
2007-04-24 12:53:02 AM  
You asked for sources for my information and I gave them
 
2007-04-24 12:54:57 AM  
All Apologies:

They were HIGHLY illegal in that people who had already lost their new orleans/louisiana citizenship were allowed to vote. But thats discrimination don't you know. BTW my parish is 90% white and the canadians were the first to arrive 4-5 days later and well after new orleans got aid if you truly believe bush hates black people.

Where do you go to get information like this?



If you're referring to the former NOLA residents voting here in Houston for elections being held in Louisiana, I saw it first hand. It was quite the set up, they were able to vote and get free government handouts at the same time. A payment for vote system if you will. Nagin was in Houston constantly up until he won the election and then disappeared without a trace.

We still have thousands of evacuees here that continue to rape, rob, murder and suck off of the government teat almost two years later. They're like a plague.
 
2007-04-24 12:55:32 AM  
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/ftp/forms/DLhandbook.pdf

page six at the top number 9 for state driving residency If i can find tax laws I'll post those as well
 
2007-04-24 12:57:07 AM  
Wild Bluebonnet

I'm just not getting your point. What does this mean?
 
2007-04-24 12:57:53 AM  
That I am Wild. I know the situation there quite well ya'll want em out and the only person that wants em back is nagin lol.
 
2007-04-24 12:59:48 AM  
Fark, just say what you mean.
 
2007-04-24 01:03:18 AM  
I wrote the OP being quoted and what I meant was that people tend to want to make katrina a race issue when it clearly wasn't that is all. If it were a race issue the white parish would have gotten aid before new orleans. And I also wanted to comment on the ineffectiveness of the federal government. Half the comment was directed towards wild's post the other half was a preemptive argument against those who would say it was a race issue and mostly, its me ranting because the whole fiasco pisses me off
 
2007-04-24 01:03:44 AM  
All Apologies

Wild Bluebonnet

I'm just not getting your point. What does this mean?



Your troll-fu is weak.
 
2007-04-24 01:05:16 AM  
Wild Bluebonnet

Really, when did asking for more information become trolling?
 
2007-04-24 01:05:57 AM  
Perhaps, gasp, you're point was weak.
 
2007-04-24 01:07:19 AM  
I did mean your
 
2007-04-24 01:13:34 AM  
All Apologies: Perhaps, gasp, you're point was weak.

No, they probably went to do something more mentally stimulating than argue with someone on the Internet who obviously doesn't get it.

Maybe they went to clip their toenails.
 
2007-04-24 01:16:20 AM  
No, they probably went to do something more mentally stimulating than argue with someone on the Internet who obviously doesn't get it.


What is being missed?
 
2007-04-24 01:25:19 AM  
Hey, if you're a social darwinist, stand proud. You've found value in it, as I perceive it, stand proud. Why not?

It's a POV, I may not agree with it every time, but you can say it.

You can find a little Darwinism in everything.
 
2007-04-24 01:28:47 AM  
It's not ridiculous to think that evolution has introduced a need among some to cull the weak the from the herd. There may very well, also, be a good reason for some to care about ensuring the survival of the herd as a whole. What of it?
 
2007-04-24 01:36:28 AM  
corley989:

That I am Wild. I know the situation there quite well ya'll want em out and the only person that wants em back is nagin lol.



Yep, it's some crazy stuff. Aside from the obvious crime wave that came with them, their habits were very odd. They would congregate at the entrances to local grocery stores like Kroger and intimidate people until finally the stores hired off-duty police to keep them from loitering.

A friend of mine lived in an apartment complex that offered shelter to several dozen evacuees. They would cut the window screens and stick their heads through the windows to talk to each other. They couldn't just remove the screen, oh no, that would be too easy. They literally would slice the screens with knives so they could poke their heads out.

I guess asking them to walk out their front door to go visit their neighbor was way too much. This wasn't just relegated to neighboring apartments, they would stick their heads out of the windows to talk to others in the same apartment.

She moved shortly thereafter when one of the evacuees had broken into her car and promptly fell asleep. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when she called her boss to explain why she was going to be late for work that day.
 
2007-04-24 02:05:04 AM  
Which makes it all very weird. While some find so much advantage in working against each other, others wonder that is better than finding a way to work with each other.
 
2007-04-24 02:27:07 AM  
nagin: proof that sophistry and a jawline will get you elected.
 
2007-04-24 09:02:08 AM  
Philly is philthy
 
2007-04-24 09:16:35 AM  
Faux
 
2007-04-24 09:26:42 AM  
You mean Ray actually got off his a$$ and did something?! Wow, that's amazing.
 
2007-04-24 09:29:50 AM  
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Phenomenal. But why'd he apologize? New Orleans was destroyed in a flood. It has an excuse. Philadelphia is just dirty.

As a Philadelphia resident, I really hope this continues. I doubt anything short of continual public humiliation will convince my neighbors that their single-party state might not be reaping the dividends promised.
 
2007-04-24 09:49:21 AM  
Crazy Ray's Rantings...almost as much fun as Misfit Marion's Musings!!

/the biatch set me up
//more stereotype come to life.
 
2007-04-24 10:20:57 AM  
San Francisco is one of the most beautiful cities in the world with property values that reflect it.
Its population is also highly educated and diverse.
New Orleans on the other hand is a shiathole that regularly gets thrashed by hurricanes and I will not comment on the population.

Do you remember the Loma Prieta earthquake, by any chance?


I agree with you on the majority of your points.

However, the 1989 quake was a 6.9 and look what it did. What I'm saying is that if you have one that is a 9.2 like the one in Anchorage in 1964, it would be several times more powerful than 1906.

At that point, there will be a discussion (not saying it would happen) about leaving the ruins like they did in Pompeii.
 
OMO
2007-04-24 12:23:57 PM  
Lets cut to the chase people.

Give me one city with a large black population that is run largely by blacks that isn't a shiathole.

Detroit? Philly? NOLA?

I might be wrong...but it doesn't take Norman Einstein to see a trend here.
 
2007-04-24 01:38:15 PM  
Lagos?

Just kidding, there isn't one.
 
2007-04-24 07:54:40 PM  
Pseudorious - As a Philadelphia resident, I really hope this continues. I doubt anything short of continual public humiliation will convince my neighbors that their single-party state might not be reaping the dividends promised.

QFT. Not that I think it will happen any time soon. What did we have, 10 murders this past weekend alone? 15? Something like that. I work in University City and it's a bit unnerving to be asked by a bike patrol officer if I need an escort to my car...at 4:30 in the afternoon. Do I (gulp) need one then?

I agree entirely with the local columnist (name escapes me) who wrote that the city would not get off its ass and do something until the first tourist is shot and killed in Rittenhouse Square.
 
2007-04-24 08:59:10 PM  
I was in Philadelphia for the CleanAir Run this past weekend, first time in a long time I've been down there. Parked a bit north of the Water Works and walked over to the Art Museum for the race and walked around a bit too.

What dump.....trash everywhere.
 
2007-04-24 11:51:32 PM  
Epsilon: Is this guy retarded, or what?

Judge for yourself:

"Nagin used the phrase 'chocolate city in reference to New Orleans' future demographics... Nagin later apologized for his remarks, and offered a different explanation of his 'chocolate city' metaphor, saying 'How do you make chocolate? You take dark chocolate, you mix it with white milk and it becomes a delicious drink. That's the chocolate I'm talking about.'"

That sir, is one and probabaly not even the best way to deleniate the phenomenon that is Ray Nagin: Champion of idiocy, incompetence, corruption and so forth.
And Yet, as much as I hope he forever removes himself from civil administration (and at times the face of the earth), some twisted bit in me would welcome a continued stay by Nagin in the public eye so that he may continue to barf comedy gems all over us.
 
2007-04-25 02:12:00 AM  
You know Philly wouldn't be in this mess if people voted for Katz. But nope, once simple-minded voters heard that the DOJ was wire-tapping Street's office; it was just a Bush and race issue. Kinda of wish that the region got to vote for Philly's mayor.
 
2007-04-25 08:33:21 AM  
soj4life

You know Philly wouldn't be in this mess if people voted for Katz. But nope, once simple-minded voters heard that the DOJ was wire-tapping Street's office; it was just a Bush and race issue. Kinda of wish that the region got to vote for Philly's mayor.


Philly is a black shiathole, like the other black shiatholes around the country.

No one cares about it, we let you kill each other and hope you go away.

/move, it does a body good
 
2007-04-25 09:52:27 AM  
Philadelphia is one of the cleaner LARGE cities in the nation.

At the very least, it doesn't smell like piss. (like NYC)

Blight occurs in all of the major cities around the world. Since most of you have never visited Philadelphia, I suggest that, quite frankly, you know nothing about what you speak.
 
2007-04-25 11:17:07 AM  
Blight? Is that the new word for Bullshiat?

Keep beating your drum, no one is listening. I'll bow out since Philly isn't farkworthy and this thread is dying.

/we've heard, we've paid, we've had no return for our money but murder, robbery and bedlam.

You figure it out genius.
 
2007-04-25 11:59:06 PM  
"San Francisco is one of the most beautiful cities in the world with property values that reflect it . Its population is also highly educated and diverse."

I'll admit I only spent two weeks in the Bay Area (San Mateo and San Fran mostly) and I agree that San Fran is for the most part a beautiful city but diverse? If you mean ethnically I would have to disagree. My entire time spent there I seen primarily whites and Asians and hardly any other ethinc groups. One city block in NYC has more diversity than all of San Fran.

/Really enjoyed my time in the Bay Area.
//Counting the homeless I seen only a handful of black people
///And no...that's not why I enjoyed the Bay Area...
 
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