knbber2: Find me one example of an innocent person executed in this country please.

Are you f*cking serious?!

bboy: Are you f*cking serious?!

What he said.

GaryPDX: It does work the best in the world.

Depends on how much money you have.

knbber2: Find me one example of an innocent person executed in this country please.

Find me one example of a man executed only to have the state and such continue to investigate the crime for which he was executed.

There could have been an unindicted coejaculator. It is next to impossible to prove innocence, especially after a conviction.

Find me one example of an innocent person executed in this country please.

Very few things I have seen posted on fark make me want to slap the poster in the mouth. You, sir, have done just that. I don't thank there is a strong enough word in the english language I can call you to express my anger at your incredible ignorance. Jesus Wept.

GaryPDX

Justice is blind. It doesn't work all the time.

Which is why executing people is generally a bad idea.

The death penalty should really be called "revenge murder". That's all it really is, killing someone for revenge. It's immoral and should be illegal.

knbber2: Find me one example of an innocent person executed in this country please.

Before everyone ripped you a new ass for this dumb comment, were you honestly under the impression that it has never happened? Or were you just hoping no one would be able to prove it?

Telling that so many were rape accusations.

Women lie, whether they know it themselves or not.

I'm not saying that it's never happened. My stance is, if you MUST execute people, you should run every possible test under the sun that might possible exonerate the accused. It's just common sense.

Subby is still a tard for implying that all 200 were saved from the death penalty.

/sayin'

Of course... considering how fast the prisons would fill up and how many criminals would be released to make way for more, just to commit more crimes...

...I think axing them is sometimes warranted, yes.

MidnightVoyager: Of course... considering how fast the prisons would fill up and how many criminals would be released to make way for more, just to commit more crimes...

...that we should speed up the killin' machine, so we have open beds?

The death penalty is stupid for the following 3 reasons.

1) It is not a deterrent.

2) It is irreversible if an innocent person is wrongfully convicted (which happens, knbber, you naive dope).

3) Death is too easy for these bastards. A lifetime in solitary, slowly rotting away is far more punative.

Subby's brain backfired... offender wasn't sentenced to death.

There are plenty of cases where the death penalty could be used with confidence due to overwhelming evidence and repeat offenses, and we bloody well should use it.

Some people use up their right to live thruogh their actions.

WTF does that headline mean? DNA evidence or not, putting child molesters and serial killers to death on a weekly basis seems like something worth whistling about.

GasBandit: Subby's brain backfired... offender wasn't sentenced to death.

Some of us understand the point made in the headline.

This is a good time refresh on some of our founding principles, you know, Christian principles.
Remember, Thou Shalt Not Kill Unless Suspect Is Found Guilty By A Court Of Law With or Without DNA Evidence, Especially If Suspect Is Poor Or A Minority Then You Shalt Kill Him Twice.

Praise Alla.. err Praise Jesus.

No, the subby was NOT implying they were all saved from the death penalty. S/he IS implying that the legal system is farked and unreliable and that is why the death penalty is bull. If just ONE innocent person will die to put to death a million who are guilty, then we need to keep them all alive and foot the damn bill. You cannot put a value on a human life.

Subby is still a tard for implying that all 200 were saved from the death penalty.


I didn't read it that way at all. I read it: if DNA is proving that people are wrongly convicted, justification for the death penalty is pretty shaky.

iKill: Subby is still a tard for implying that all 200 were saved from the death penalty.

/sayin'

He was implying that the justice system is not infallible, and therefore applying an irreversible and extreme punishment like the death penalty is likely to lead to some cases of where an innocent person is executed.

/comprehension ftw

acaciaavenue: WTF does that headline mean?


It means perhaps these solidly built cases aren't as solidly built as we think, after all

DNA evidence or not, putting child molesters and serial killers to death on a weekly basis seems like something worth whistling about.

And to HELL with if they're actually guilty or not!

bboy

knbber2: Find me one example of an innocent person executed in this country please.

Are you f*cking serious?!

I'm just curious, do any of those links in the google post offer any proof of innocence? Or just simply "he may not have been guilty?" Because saying "he may not be guilty" isnt an example that should count and what I saw was an awful lot of that B.S.

Though admittedly, I'd love to see someone put some real effort into following one of these cases up. I don't actually believe there are any documented proven cases of an innocent person being excecuted but I wouldn't be surprised if it has happened. Show me the proof.

"Your post made my child committ suicide"

Don't worry, it's just a jumble of cells anyways...

Almost as ignorant is knbber2's assertion that "the system worked". I'm sorry, but imprisoning an innocent man for twenty years is NOT working. How idiotic can you get?

What hellyeahhokie said

Even if he didn't do it, he was probably thinking about it. It was only 25 years. You all act like it was a quarter century or something.

MidnightVoyager

I think releasing the people brought up on charges and sent to the slammer for having a dime of weed might help out a bit more than "axing" people to make room. Just my thoughts.

mooseyfate: I'm not saying that it's never happened. My stance is, if you MUST execute people, you should run every possible test under the sun that might possible exonerate the accused. It's just common sense.

As a wise man once said, common sense ain't so common.

I pray I'm never arrested by a cop concerned only about a collar, prosecuted by a politically motivated DA, and judged by 12 retards too stupid to get out of jury duty.

seventypercent, how does executing an innocent man bring closure to the victims? You lost me on that one...

Check out Penn & Tellar's Bullshiat! on the topic. According to their research there have been 100 wrongful death row executions in the US. That's 100 too many.

Some of us understand the point troll made in the headline.


yeah i knew what he meant too, but it was a bit of a jump. not disagreeing just noting that trolling headlines come from all sides... lol

FuriousGeorge945

Wow, what a bullshiatter you are.

The subby mentioned the 200th freed man, who was not sentenced to death, then brings up death penatly advocates "looking the other way," even though this guy was not at risk.

So, subby is either BSing about this guy, or he's BSing about 200 guys. Take your pick.

seventypercent- "People, especially the anti-capital punishment crowd, always forget about the victims. When somebody is executed for a murder, even if it is the wrong person, it brings a sense of closure to the family members who were left behind. What is so wrong with that?"

Please tell me you're a troll so my head doesn't explode.

I am for the death penalty, though I don't believe it is perfect. I don't see how the chance of locking up someone in for 50 years is that much worse than executing them.

I think the standard of proof should be higher for the death penalty than it is for conviction. But if, for example, the VT shooter had given himself up, where he obviously did all that (and crazy or not, I say that's chair-worthy) then there is no reason to claim the innocence defense against the death penalty (the only one that I really care about.)

GaryPDX: Justice is blind. It doesn't work all the time. It does work the best in the world.

That's why justice should always be reversible.

Good headline subby.

"2007-04-23 05:30:57 PM Moonfisher

No, the subby was NOT implying they were all saved from the death penalty. S/he IS implying that the legal system is farked and unreliable and that is why the death penalty is bull. If just ONE innocent person will die to put to death a million who are guilty, then we need to keep them all alive and foot the damn bill. You cannot put a value on a human life."
QFT
but people could put a value on human life and say 1 innocent life is ok if we kill all the baddies...or they could say no one is really innocent.

If someone wants death penalty and makes an wrongful judgement then they should get it as well - judge, prosecutor and jury. If you're not prepared to put your life on the line for the judgment you are about to be a central part of maybe you shouldn't make it.

lennavan

Well I would imagine most of the "innocence" type projects spend most of their time and money on prisoners who are still alive. (bang for buck and all that)

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I award your troll a 0.5, how about suck on a shotgun and clean out that infected jumble of cells between your ears.

seventypercent: People, especially the anti-capital punishment crowd, always forget about the victims. When somebody is executed for a murder, even if it is the wrong person, it brings a sense of closure to the family members who were left behind. What is so wrong with that?

I see this asserted, and it makes sense, but I would like to see some evidence. I've heard at least one psychologist say that sometimes it doesn't really bring closure like expected. Plus, the case drags on for years in the appellate court, often being reversed. It remains a festering wound. The appeals process typically ends much sooner in death cases. That would seem to me to bring closure a lot sooner.