Hallaluya!

The only religious objection I can think of is the fact that it's illegal. So if it's NOT illegal.....

O.K., now I'm really confused.. did I just read an article about clergy talking some sense?


Duuude..

Not if the manufacturers of morphine can help it.

This actually makes perfect sense.
People often feel a sense of spirituality while stoned.
Often times equating it to the presence of Jesus or Religious experience.
So it can actually be seen as a recruitment tool.

Approves.

I just saw Jesus' eyes...

+1 for the clergy. Now if they can just wash the oh noes marihauna paranioa from their followers.

I think the appropriate tag here was HERO

Jesus had the best stash I'm sure LOL. If he could make water into wine, he could make leaves into grass LOL

TheEvilOne23 Jesus had the best stash I'm sure LOL. If he could make water into wine, he could make leaves into grass LOL

I guess if you can turn a couple of loaves and some fish into enough food for thousands then you won't be worried by the munchies, either.

Wow, I never thought I'd be on the same side as the church....

/egads!

Well, why ELSE would God have put pot plants into the world?

/Man made beer, God made Pot
//Not a smoker myself, but I don't care what you do to your own body.

analogy
Well, why ELSE would God have put pot plants into the world?

/Man made beer, God made Pot
//Not a smoker myself, but I don't care what you do to your own body.

Oh shiat, I left pot everywhere! I shouldn't have smoked on the third day! People aren't supposed to think they're supposed to use it! Now I'll have to invent republicans!

/stoled bill hicks material

I suffer from depression.

Ganja is a class 1 drug because it has "no known medical use" and it has "high potential for misuse and abuse" because of it's euphoric effects.

If I get the right pot I can alleviate certain symptoms of my depression (see mind numbing soul crushing dispair). The other way to obtain that effect is through drugs with much more severe side effects (see chronic weight gain) and no long term studies.

So the choice is clear:
A Follow the laws made by my misguided leaders in fear of police
B Ignore laws in my search for safe relief from a mental condition

I don't see why I follow laws that hurt me. This is a serius problem before pot I was a suicide risk. Those that would say it has no medical use are either liars or ignorant. I'm living proof that it does help my symptoms.

I challenge any of you to prove to me my miracle plant is evil in itself. These people do deserve the hero tag for speaking the truth in an invironment where that truth isn't acceptable.

/you can pry my ganja out of my warm loving brownies

thread is in need of a tag

ANALOGY "Man made beer"

actually, ben franklin would like a word with you.

Pastor Robert C. Morwell of Union United Methodist Church in Quincy said he had never used marijuana nor had any desire to. "But I think it's a little silly to say we can prescribe morphine ... and other drugs that are more addictive,'' but not marijuana, he said.

Cullerton dismissed concerns that legalizing medical marijuana would pave the way for recreational marijuana use. He said it was already relatively easy for recreational users to obtain pot illegally, without having to get a doctor involved. Also, he pointed out that the legislation would specifically limit the growing and usage of medical marijuana to the patient, and increase the penalties for any who abused that system.

Two of the most coherent arguments I've read recently.

/proud Colorado card holder.

Bah this is just another attempt by the church to be cool.

I read that as "Cheney"... thought I was high, for a minute there...

Smoking anything isn't safe. That said, it shouldn't be illegal to do so... in private. I'm personally 100% against public smoking, be it tobacco or cannabis.

ANALOGY "Man made beer"

actually, ben franklin would like a word with you.

Yeah, but I wouldn't keep using that quote since everyone knows he was pretty stoned when he said it.

I agree with the hero tag....hooray for them, for sticking to their morals and compassionate instincts, in the face of the ridiculously overblown myth of marijuana as a dangerous narcotic. It's preposterous to continue acting like marijuana is even one-tenth as harmful and dangerous as the decades of propaganda have made it out to be. Its ability to relieve chemotherapy nausea has been demonstrated convincingly decades ago. For a lot of people, it works far better than any of the legal remedies.

The sub-text of the message from the preachers in the article is essentially, "if someone is using pot just for pleasure, it is still ok to send them to prison."

/Why do preachers hate stoners?

Proverbs 31:4-7:

"It is not for kings, O Lemuel-
not for kings to drink wine,
not for rulers to crave beer,
lest they drink and forget what the law decrees,
and deprive all the oppressed of their rights.

Give beer to those who are perishing,
wine to those who are in anguish;
let them drink and forget their poverty
and remember their misery no more."

Translation: medical marijuana is OK. If you're in charge of important things, for crying out loud, don't get stoned! But if you're sick and dying and in pain, there's no reason why you can't be allowed to relieve the suffering with alcohol, morphine or any other painkiller.

I'm not "religious" but the fact that naturally occurring substances such as opium and cannabis relieve human suffering shows some love from something, even chance.

bigpeeler Giving new meaning to the term, "High Priest".

High five, Bilo!

I wish someone would ask the Democratic canidates about cannibus prohibition. We may be coming up on the best opportunity for some sort of legalization that we will get for a very long time.

if people knew why marijuana was made illegal in the first place, then it would most likely be legal:

http://boards.core77.com/viewtopic.php?t=7685

and not require a medical initiative.

/God made dirt (that grows marijuana) and dirt don't hurt.

Aaaaaaaamen! Too bad I don't live in one of the 12 states that legalized it.

//won't see it happen in OK

I think St. Louis should become the Amsterdam of North America. Legalize drugs, prostitution, gambling, etc. Then just regulate and tax them all.

palad: Smoking anything isn't safe. That said, it shouldn't be illegal to do so... in private. I'm personally 100% against public smoking, be it tobacco or cannabis.

GotVape?

amen

smoke em if you god em

bordergirl:

//won't see it happen in OK

Haha, no, not a chance in hell!

"But opponents also are leaning on religious morality as a central part of their argument. They say that the real purpose of the movement is to legalize recreational pot, and that well-meaning clergy are being duped."

Right. Allow millions of people to continue suffering from sickness because your shaky moral theories propose that legalized medical marijuana would pave the way for other groups of people to have a relatively safe recreational experience.

Way to go, you just made baby Jesus cry.

If the alter boys are allowed to smoke it, it just means it is easier to tap that ass....

/aisle please.

I am clergy.

I approve of this message.

/Really I am and really I do.

No medical uses? Weed may cure tumors

pounddawg: I am clergy.

Really? What sort?

In the past decade, medicinal marijuana has been legalized in 12 states: Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington.

You know what's really scary? That's twelve states that are operating in open defiance of the Supreme court.

Faethe [TotalFark]

Non denominational.

Faethe: You know what's really scary? That's twelve states that are operating in open defiance of the Supreme court.

oh noes!

Faethe: You know what's really scary? That's twelve states that are operating in open defiance of the Supreme court.

You know what's even more scary? A federal government operating in defiance of citizens and their state government representatives.

pounddawg: Non denominational.

How do you do that?

FarkingFarkers: You know what's even more scary? A federal government operating in defiance of citizens and their state government representatives.

Don't get me wrong - I meant to emphasize that the Fed obviously has no farking idea what the will of the states is. This whole marijuana prohibition thing is bullshiat, founded on bad science, and promulgated by the pharma corps. I find it ironic that the supreme court can state that the use of medical marijuana is verboten, when in reality, the whole scenario is none of their farking business in the first place. When did Supreme court justices become doctors?

Faethe [TotalFark]

I'm sorry but I don't understand the question.

I'm not attached to a particular denomination or faith

pounddawg: I'm not attached to a particular denomination or faith

That's what I mean - like, how do you be a non-denominational minister? Do you have a congregation? I'm just curious :)