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2007-04-21 10:29:55 PM  
"Witnesses said metal and plastic wreckage -- some of it on fire -- hit homes in the neighborhood"



My theory for the cause of the crash is that someone forgot to read the instructions and didn't glue the two halves of the fuselage together after a test fit.
 
2007-04-21 10:35:16 PM  
According to MSNBC, the pilot apparently clipped the top of a pine tree.

Here's an article & news video explaining what they think happened.

Blue Angel crash
 
2007-04-21 10:39:38 PM  
Bronto Saurus: They are an expensive and unnecessary danger to both the pilots and the public.

Lets look at the USAF Thunderbirds (only because that what I'm most familiar with)
Expense:
The USAF currently operates 6000+ aircraft.
The Thunderbirds operate 10 (6 prime F-16's, 3 spares, and a transport)

So their operating costs would be about 0.00167 of the Air Force. Even if you double it, because they fly a lot, that's still a tiny, tiny percentage.

Danger:
In the entire history of the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds, how many civilians have been killed? Very, very few.

More people die falling out of bed annually than have with the Tbirds and Angels in total. You could probably include all the other major military demo teams (France, Britian, Italy, Canada, Russia) and still be less. Even including the tragedy at Ramstein.

/seeing the Tbirds at Langley next weekend.
 
2007-04-21 10:41:04 PM  
2007-04-21 06:20:08 PM emurray
The Blue Angels emurray sucks. Nothing but noise pollution and a waste of money.

Fixed that for you.
 
2007-04-21 10:42:54 PM  
A sad day for the Blue Angels. It makes you realize that despite being about as perfect as a human pilots can be, they can't be perfect forever.

shiat happens --- you never know when God is going to decide it's your turn and poof you're gone.

My prayers for the pilot's family and friends. I'm sure he passed doing something he really loved in his life.

I hope lessons are learned from this tragedy and I look forward to seeing them in the air once again.
 
2007-04-21 10:46:14 PM  
That plane crashed VERY close to my friend's mother's house. She was talking about it, and.... weird. I saw it on CNN.com and Fark.
 
2007-04-21 10:56:00 PM  
Everytime I watch the Blue Angels or the Thunderbirds it scares the bejeebers out of me.

I mean, those guys have nuts of stainless steel or something.

I couldn't do it, but I'm glad someone can.
 
2007-04-21 10:57:35 PM  
Wow, I'm amazed at the number of Coastal Empire/Low Country Farkers.

More updates on the crash from SavannahNow. (pops) Someone claims to hear on a scanner that #6 was low on fuel.
 
2007-04-21 11:03:06 PM  
It's all well and good to agree with something or not as long as you are informed and can provide a reasoned argument one way or the other.

I happen to love the blue angels and my heart goes out to his family and friends and fellow pilots. It's not an easy thing they do and they are the best there is anywhere (I'm talking about all the armed-forces special flight squadrons).

To be able to slip the surly bonds.. as it were.. At least we can all know he died doing exactly what he loved. May we all be as lucky to meet our ends in such a manner as that.

/there's been way too much dying this week.
//moment of silence for everyone who didn't make it
///...
 
2007-04-21 11:06:29 PM  
Strange... I thought the Blue Angels F/A-18's were single-seat aircraft? According to this CNN web page (pops) two pilots were killed.

Anyway, sad to know another military member has lost his/her life "just doing their daily job".

/Retired USAF
 
2007-04-21 11:09:36 PM  
I heard that he actually did eject at the last minute.....unfortunately for him he was inverted at the time and at an altitude of less than 100 feet.
 
2007-04-21 11:11:51 PM  
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2007-04-21 11:14:04 PM  
Oh jeez! Sorry folks, I was looking at an OLD CNN web page.
/nevermind
 
2007-04-21 11:14:51 PM  
Closed_Minded_Bastage: Strange... I thought the Blue Angels F/A-18's were single-seat aircraft?

Just as with F-16's, there are two-seater F-18's. The Tbirds have one...I imagine the Angels have one as well.
 
2007-04-21 11:18:02 PM  
Digging through the archives...I guess I had a few photos of #6.
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2007-04-21 11:25:16 PM  
FLYNAVY its good to hear from you, bro. Keep us posted.
 
2007-04-21 11:33:59 PM  
Well, if it was easy, anyone could do it.
 
2007-04-21 11:34:56 PM  
When I was growing up in Annapolis, we used to watch the Blue Angels from the lower Severn River bridge -- the drawbridge, in case anyone knows. Instead of an airstrip, the B A used the Severn River as their point of reference. All of the formations started and concluded there. They used to fly over SO low and SO loud -- AWESOME.
This is quite sad.
http://www.zap16.com/leeuw06/Blue%20Angels%20formation%2002.jpg
 
2007-04-21 11:46:20 PM  
I grew up in Pensacola, their home base, and remember as a kid being dragged to their airshows.

Jesus, every ex-military douche-knozzle bullsh*tter is at the show wearing hats and shirts signifying how high of rank they achieved. They have loud conversations. Not the kind of conversation where two men are having a discussion, but the kind where they're making cock-measuring announcements for all within earshot. Two shows a year, one at the beach and one at PNAS. I probaby saw them 25 times.

For the Blues' performance, it was super cool the first 10 minutes, but after that it's the same sh*t over and over for half an hour. Tens of thousands in attendance, and almost all were either ex-military or Southern Baptist, often times both...(shudders)...thank God I left Pensacola. Sure do miss the food though.

Although I feel the Blue Angels team is a waste of money, and I feel a military bigger than domestic protection is evil, I definitely feel sorry most of all for this guy's buddies.

Camaraderie is the one thing I've always envied about the military. There will be many toasts made in this man's name at Trader Jon's.
 
2007-04-21 11:49:50 PM  
I've always loved the Blues, have made RC models of their Hornets and stuff. Blue Angel number seven is a two-seater, it carries the liason officer who flies ahead of the team and does advance work. This is also the plane they put the local media people in when they want to get some local press coverage of an upcoming event. Seven is also the hot spare when one of the single-seaters, 1-6, conks out during or just before a show. I attended one show where that happened: one of the regular planes developed some kind of fault, landed immediately, the pilot scrambled out of it and into number seven with the engines already runing, blasted back into the sky in full burner like a race car from pit row, re-joined the show and they finished the routine. Tremendous. Another year, more recently, similar thing happened, one of the single-seaters lost hydraulics in the first few passes of the show, but they didn't use Seven, just finished the show with five planes. Unfortunately, the malfunctioning plane was one of the solos, which really screwed up the rest of the show. The narrator officer on that tour was really a new guy, and was running strictly off cue cards, could not ad-lib at all. I could see him from my vantage point, he looked like he'd rathe be anywhere else but there at the time... Because of the missing plane, nothing he was describing lined up with what the Angels were doing. He also sounded ironic as he read off some scripted factoids about a 100-percent no-malfunctions record, when the proof was sitting out on the taxiway with locked-up brakes for 90 minutes, holding up the rest of the flying acts for an hour. It was a very disappointing show, and the last time they came to my airport, so it's not the best memory of my heroes to go out with. Of course, this tragedy today is much worse. I mourn the lost pilot and pray for his shipmates and the families.
 
2007-04-22 12:11:14 AM  
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2007-04-22 12:12:58 AM  
Uncle Karl

Sliding Carp
How do you feel about military bands?
Smaller waste of tax money, but still a waste.


And I feel funding for AIDS research is a bigger waste. I mean come on, if you have AIDS, don't fark some other dude in the ass. Or, don't let some other dude fark you in the ass, cause he might have AIDS. Simple, problem solved.
 
2007-04-22 12:19:55 AM  
I like the Blue Angels.I live near an airport on Long Island where they take off from when they do shows at Jones Beach.
The airport also has an aviation museum.I always run outside to see them fly.B-17's,B-24,B-25,P51,P47,Hellcats,etc...It brings tears to my eyes when I see them.
R.I.P. #6
Prayers for you and yours.
 
2007-04-22 12:28:57 AM  
"It was a very disappointing show, "

cmon, man. time and a place.

The Blues are a staple with us here in a PNW as well. Everytime I see them I can't think straight for a bit afterwards while I try to comprehend their discipline & precision. Awesome flyers.

/thoughts & prayers
 
2007-04-22 12:28:59 AM  
this thread is useless without fiery crash videos
 
2007-04-22 12:31:14 AM  
The Navy Hymn : Eternal Father, Strong to Save
with newer verses for the naval aviator:

Lord, guard and guide the men who fly
Through the great spaces in the sky.
Be with them always in the air,
In darkening storms or sunlight fair;
Oh, hear us when we lift our prayer,
For those in peril in the air!

Aloft in solitudes of space,
Uphold them with Thy saving grace.
Thou Who supports with tender might
The balanced birds in all their flight.
Lord, if the tempered winds be near,
That, having Thee, they know no fear.
- Mary C. D. Hamilton (1915)
 
2007-04-22 12:32:13 AM  
peikko22

Posting videos or pictures of this nature is a good way to get banned from fark.
 
2007-04-22 12:34:13 AM  
fark I was going to go to that, I only live one county away. Just heard (out of town all day.)
 
2007-04-22 12:41:15 AM  
I got to sit on the Severn River & watch the Blue Angels show at the Naval Academy graduation in 2003,2004 & 2005... I have to admit, I thought someone was going to crash time & time again then. It's amazing what they can do with those planes... And, yes, I was one of those people who wanted to be a pilot when I was a kid, too. (Terrible eyesight killed that dream, alas.)

I feel bad for that guy's family & the rest of his unit, but I'm glad there wasn't anyone else hurt - if something like this had happened in Annapolis, it would be hard to find anywhere to land without hurting other people. Even most of the Chesapeake Bay was filled with small boats out there to watch the show...
 
2007-04-22 01:17:35 AM  
Bronto Saurus: Is it "retarded" to wonder whether the public, as you suggest, already endangered by many other things in life, be exposed to absolutely unnecessary danger in order to give some war hawks their jollies?

Don't quit your day job, your trolling is very weak.
 
2007-04-22 02:22:00 AM  
Ok All you Farktards STFU and put your tiny penises back in your shorts. Yes you struck a friggin nerve! Most of you don't have a clue as to what these guys do and what it translates into for the squadrons when they finish their gig. For starters these guys are the best pilots the Navy and Marines have, not only do they have to have a set of balls that make the Fark Squirrel seem neutered, they actually have to have something most flyboys and you don't, a friggin brain and reflexes to match. You biatch and moan about your tax dollars being wasted on this but the sad thing is that you are to stupid to see what that money is "wasted" on. All that "public relations at the air shows" guess what? it is only a partial recruiting tool, the other part is to reassure the people that when the world goes to shiat we send out the baddest bad asses to keep us safe That friggin translates into support for the kids that are over in Iraq. You probably won't find someone that has done a meet and greet with the Angels, Thunderbirds. Golden Knights Etc that has not walked away thinking that these guys and ALL of those that serve with them in the service are special because they signed on the line and are willing to protect your sorry ahses. Now the real payoff occurs when these guys go back to their "regular" duties in the squadron. The other pilots learn from them, They look at these guys as if they were gods Yes these guys go back and impart the damn knowledge they have picked up from "wasting" all your tax dollars to do tricks and guess f#$king what, that knowledge can save another pilots life and also keep that 20 million dollar airplane your tax dollars paid for in the air. These guys also learn management and command skills that will help them be better officers and keep their kids alive when they do have to go into the crap. The Amount of money spent on these groups wouldn't make a gnat's ahss difference to any of the other things you are saying it should be spent on but the return it gives our military is immeasurable. So if you have a problem with "Your" tax dollars being spent on this I have a suggestion for you; Tomorrow when you clock in a Burger Hut tell your manager that you have decided that being 2nd assistant fry vat manager is to much responsibility and you want to be demoted. Then you will pay less taxes and just maybe if you talk to Mom right she will quit charging you 20 a month for the basement!
I am a little prejudiced, The Angles train at NAS El Centro it's 10 miles from my step dads house and I have shared beers with them and Every year I get to hoist a few with the Golden Knights since they train at YPG where my wife works; and it really pisses me off when you mouth breathers start talking about these guys~! So until you have drank a with them and cried at one of their memorials STFU!
 
2007-04-22 02:25:23 AM  
I have to say that when I was growing up (and yes, maybe we were stupid), it never occurred to us that we were in danger standing on that bridge underneath the flight line. It was just so tremendously cool.
 
2007-04-22 02:42:13 AM  
"Ok All you Farktards STFU and put your tiny penises back in your shorts. Yes you struck a friggin nerve! Most of you don't have a clue as to what these guys do and what it translates into for the squadrons when they finish their gig. For starters these guys are the best pilots the Navy and Marines have, not only do they have to have a set of balls that make the Fark Squirrel seem neutered, they actually have to have something most flyboys and you don't, a friggin brain and reflexes to match. You biatch and moan about your tax dollars being wasted on this but the sad thing is that you are to stupid to see what that money is "wasted" on. All that "public relations at the air shows" guess what? it is only a partial recruiting tool, the other part is to reassure the people that when the world goes to shiat we send out the baddest bad asses to keep us safe That friggin translates into support for the kids that are over in Iraq. You probably won't find someone that has done a meet and greet with the Angels, Thunderbirds. Golden Knights Etc that has not walked away thinking that these guys and ALL of those that serve with them in the service are special because they signed on the line and are willing to protect your sorry ahses. Now the real payoff occurs when these guys go back to their "regular" duties in the squadron. The other pilots learn from them, They look at these guys as if they were gods Yes these guys go back and impart the damn knowledge they have picked up from "wasting" all your tax dollars to do tricks and guess f#$king what, that knowledge can save another pilots life and also keep that 20 million dollar airplane your tax dollars paid for in the air. These guys also learn management and command skills that will help them be better officers and keep their kids alive when they do have to go into the crap. The Amount of money spent on these groups wouldn't make a gnat's ahss difference to any of the other things you are saying it should be spent on but the return it gives our military is immeasurable. So if you have a problem with "Your" tax dollars being spent on this I have a suggestion for you; Tomorrow when you clock in a Burger Hut tell your manager that you have decided that being 2nd assistant fry vat manager is to much responsibility and you want to be demoted. Then you will pay less taxes and just maybe if you talk to Mom right she will quit charging you 20 a month for the basement!
I am a little prejudiced, The Angles train at NAS El Centro it's 10 miles from my step dads house and I have shared beers with them and Every year I get to hoist a few with the Golden Knights since they train at YPG where my wife works; and it really pisses me off when you mouth breathers start talking about these guys~! So until you have drank a with them and cried at one of their memorials STFU!"

= LOL
 
2007-04-22 04:18:41 AM  
You know, I heard the pilot's family was present at the show. Some small children probably saw their father die. Meanwhile, snarky, overprivileged little fux who probably take a certain amount of pride about NOT knowing anything about the military snipe away at it (hey, only stupid rednecks are into the military, right?). How would daddy have ever made the money for you to go to Swarthmore/Reed/Antioch/where-ever if the military wasn't protecting this country? Go fark yourselves.

/can you spot the trolling?
//I guess it isn't trolling if I point it out, is it?
 
2007-04-22 05:18:04 AM  
I have signatures of both the solos and the slot pilot (tail end of the diamond formation) from 2003's Lemoore NAS show. The team spirit that surrounds this team is absolutely incredible, it's like watching a group of brothers hanging around together. I'm very sorry for their loss.
 
2007-04-22 07:22:06 AM  
Blue Angels are the best of the best!!! All are heroes.
pilot no. 6 deserves the Hero tag for not ejecting and going down with his plane doing his best to prevent additional death to the public!

America has the greatest military on the earth, we should all be proud and thankful to the men and women that serve in it and die in it to protect us and maintain our basis freedoms that we take for granted every single day.
 
2007-04-22 07:48:10 AM  
Latest word we're hearing out here is an unrecoverable mechanical failure [stall most likely] & that Lt. Cmdr. Davis took his F/A 18 Hornet into the trees to try to avoid houses & people rather than eject. Injuries but no fatalities on the ground.

We too often get caught up in the marvel of watching these elite select men and women fly & we forget that these Aviators run the risk gauntlet every time they go up, during the show the narrarator emphasizes that the flight maneuvers & displays are symbolic & representative of those maneuvers that are needed when flying from a forward deployed carrier, only harder, way harder.

The aircrew realize this, as well. Prior to any recap during a debrief, when their turn comes up to speak, the Blue Angel Aviators start off their comments with a "Glad to be here Boss", an acknowledgement to their commanding officer that they are aware of the fact that they are indeed fortunate to represent the Navy and the United States in this venue & they recognize their comrades who are flying on the pointy tip of the spear around the world, without the crowds & the adulation that goes along with being a flight demonstration pilot, be it Blue Angel or Thunderbird or Snow Bird or Red Arrow or any of the Teams.

Kev was a rare Aviator, a rare Aviator without the huge ego. Rare that he never felt the need to let everyone in the room know he was an Aviator or a member of the Blues. Even after being selected to fly with the Blues he felt the highest honor of his career was when he served onboard the Ike providing CAS to the troops on the ground. He was a special but regular guy & we will all miss him.

& for those that think that the Blues are a waste of taxpayers money. When a Blue's 2 yr rotation is complete, they all rotate back to the fleet, to regular carrier duty. The flight skills they learned while with the Blues is freely passed on to the carrier Aviators thru our training to help us do our jobs better.

Please don't forget to say a prayer this evening for the pilot's family.

A sad end to a sad week.
 
2007-04-22 09:02:23 AM  
I remember once, at an air show, they made it a point to say that in 20 minutes, they could strip the fighter, repaint it, and have it ready for war.

Now, I know that the real point of that is saying, "This is the same fighter they use in actual combat." But, it also says, "Man, if we need to get these fighters into the mix, we've already lost the war!!"
 
2007-04-22 09:47:05 AM  
Don't know how many people are still looking this thread over but the local paper has an article up: Dark day for Blue Angels. (pops) It's not the AP report. While the article says the pilot is still not named, it has his picture posted.
 
2007-04-22 09:51:18 AM  
I for one can say without hesitation that these flying squadrons are NOT a waste of money, any more than the performance dance I watched last night was a waste of money. These jets are beautiful in motion. Furthermore, the jets and pilots would still be flying in training rotations even if we were not allowed to watch.

They did kind of freak me out when they buzzed our offices downtown in preparation for an airshow in, I think, December of 2001 (but we got over that). I frankly can't think of many tax dollar programs that entertain so many for so few dollars.

Prayers to the pilot, his family, his squadron and those on the ground who saw it.
 
2007-04-22 10:53:02 AM  
I just took off from that airstrip Thursday. Scary.
 
2007-04-22 10:54:11 AM  
This is going to put a damper on the Fort Lauderdale Air & Sea Show, scheduled for May 5 and 6, 2007. I wonder if the T-birds will even show.
 
2007-04-22 11:01:08 AM  
As a former military aviator, I'm impressed by the knowledge of some farkers and appalled and the lack of brains about basic physics, aeronautics, and common sense on the part of others. I guess some will always try to over simplify that which is inherently complicated.

Best of all is some people's definition of "dangerous". Some of you are probably scared to drive to the quickie mart.
 
2007-04-22 11:44:05 AM  
edmo:

Best of all is some people's definition of "dangerous". Some of you are probably scared to drive to the quickie mart.

QFT

I love watching air shows. I'm just Jane-civilian (though my family is mostly military), but it never fails that I'm moved by watching what those pilots are capable of. I'll even admit - sometimes I tear up in amazement and joy.
 
2007-04-22 11:44:20 AM  
edmo - IWF cliche? ;o)
Driving to quickie mart can be scary enough if you have to follow a truckload of bricks over a wooden bridge.
 
2007-04-22 01:07:55 PM  
So Azlefty, where were these planes, the best of the best ready to protect our country, on Sept. 11 2001?
/sad indeed
 
2007-04-22 01:52:22 PM  
I don't know anything about the Blue Angels. What do they do?
 
2007-04-22 02:31:15 PM  
emurray: You sound like the most boring bastard that ever got shiat out of a womb.
 
2007-04-22 04:14:32 PM  
ekdikeo4

So did they recover the rest of him and subsequently put him back together, alive? Because this is the first fatality the Angels have had.
 
2007-04-22 05:11:16 PM  
Damn this is depressing. I love the blue angels and I was hoping to see them this summer but I doubt that is going to happen now.
 
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