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(NJ.com)   New Jersey Governor's crash was caused by driver trying to get out of the way of his car, which had its lights flashing while responding to a talk-show related emergency   (nj.com) divider line 126
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2007-04-15 09:06:35 AM
Corzine, who was sitting in the front passenger seat -- and apparently not wearing a seat belt,

I assume NJ has mandatory seat belt laws? Will the Governor or his driver written a ticket for this infraction?

It is only fair.
 
2007-04-15 09:25:04 AM
there was something last night that described the red pickup driver as "special needs." I took that statement to mean wicked retah-ded.
 
2007-04-15 09:25:26 AM
LyleDAL: I assume NJ has mandatory seat belt laws?

Not only do we have the law, it is a primary offense, which means a cop can pull you over and ticket you if you don't have the belt on. Yes, another example of "above the law" arrogance by the governor.

But what really gets me is the inaccuracy of the news. This article states that Corzine broke eleven ribs. Other reports have said twelve. Varying reports said that he broke his collarbone, others don't.

Seeing things like this just make me doubt the accuracy of all the news we see.
 
2007-04-15 09:30:14 AM
Since Corzine's injuries are a lot more severe than if he had been wearing a seatbelt, will he reimburse the insurance company for the extra expense that the law-abiding public would otherwise have to pay?
 
2007-04-15 09:40:39 AM
Corzine, who was sitting in the front passenger seat -- and apparently not wearing a seat belt,

Sources say the governor is listed in hypocritical condition.
 
2007-04-15 10:01:08 AM
And his driver is a cop, too.
 
2007-04-15 10:02:10 AM
Finnley Wren: Sources say the governor is listed in hypocritical condition.

This thread is over. Finnley Wren wins.
 
2007-04-15 10:04:26 AM
Given that no one in NJ enforces seatbelt laws, I suppose I wasn't that hypocritical.

/It was still stupid
 
2007-04-15 10:04:38 AM
Since when was a good source for stories be myspace?
fta - According to a profile on the MySpace Web site, which appears to be about 2 years old, Potts attended Pinelands Regional High School, worked as a stocker at ShopnBag and enjoys cooking, "chilling with my boys, and having a good time."
 
2007-04-15 10:06:17 AM
Seriously, though, smitty has a point. Why were the emergency lights on going to a meeting with Imus and the nappy-headed hos?
 
2007-04-15 10:06:41 AM
Poorly

Written

Article
 
2007-04-15 10:08:04 AM
Sounds like their little witch hunt for the red pickup guy is backfiring on them. Forget his charges. What about the driver and governor's charges?
 
2007-04-15 10:08:07 AM
Finnley Wren: Sources say the governor is listed in hypocritical condition.


Golf Clap for you. Well played.
 
2007-04-15 10:08:22 AM
I hope I never get my myspace dragged on the news otherwise the whole world will know about my passion for amateur pornography. What a worthless piece of "news".
 
2007-04-15 10:11:28 AM
Shoot. And I was all ready to explain this accident as a contract hit by the Gay Political Mafia, who was sad one of their own was taken out.
 
2007-04-15 10:14:17 AM
"The man, who asked not to be named because State Police told him not to speak to the media"

--Tell ya what, Trooper Dooper. I'll talk to whoever the hell I want to talk to, how's that grab ya? What's next, you going to tell me not to leave the state, too? And of course I'll comply on both counts because some cop on the side of the road told me to.
 
2007-04-15 10:15:53 AM
So, Corzine caused the wreck by flashing the emergency lights on his SUV for no reason. Then he causes his own injuries by not wearing a seatbelt. Then they try to blame it on a retarded guy who didn't even touch any of the other vehicles. Jeezus.
 
2007-04-15 10:16:50 AM
Earguy: his article states that Corzine broke eleven ribs. Other reports have said twelve.

Actually it was 11 and a half. The windshield and dashboard were each credited with half a sack.
 
2007-04-15 10:17:19 AM
He should get a seatbelt ticket. Any of us would. And since it was a State Trooper driving him around, he should get stomped on for letting him break the law. If I got pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt, a response to the Trooper of "I don't like wearing one" isn't going to get me out of a freaking ticket.
 
2007-04-15 10:19:30 AM
They always have the lights going when the governor travels, at least on the Parkway or Turnpike. Nobody mentions the speed at which they were traveling though. I've tagged on to the back of the motorcade (kinda fancy, it's only two cars) on the Turnpike and they were doing well over 90.

/didn't pretend everyone was getting out of MY way
//ok, yes I did
///slashies for driving fast
 
2007-04-15 10:21:02 AM
I don't understand why a politician going to meet a fired DJ needs emergency lights. Especially if it's true that they were doing the speed limit.
 
2007-04-15 10:21:09 AM
Second page goes to a register screen.
 
2007-04-15 10:21:25 AM
Isn't the governor of New Jersey a pillowbiter? I thought I heard that somewhere......

/what exit did he have his accident at?
 
2007-04-15 10:23:19 AM
SCUBA_Archer: Isn't the governor of New Jersey a pillowbiter? I thought I heard that somewhere......

Where ya been boy? That wuz the last guv...
 
2007-04-15 10:23:33 AM
Farkage: And since it was a State Trooper driving him around, he should get stomped on for letting him break the law.

Do you think secret service agents can force the president to wear a seatbelt? Same thing. Corzine is that cops boss, not the other way around.
 
2007-04-15 10:27:02 AM
Is it just me or are some of those ads on page 3 bordering on something evil? They look caricatures from the late 1930's.
 
2007-04-15 10:27:12 AM
Am I a bad person for just not caring about this guy (the governor I feel bad for the driver of the red pickup)?

He lives in a state with fairly restrictive laws -- laws he helped write but couldn't be bothered to follow because he's special. I don't believe for a moment the SUV was "only" going 65 if the other driver had trouble getting out of the way he was probability going much faster.

So here we have a guy breaking the speed limit laws (my opinion), not wearing a seat belt and costing people with car insurance extra money because of the severity of his injuries (he wouldn't have been this hurt had he bothered to wear the seat belt).

So fark him.
 
2007-04-15 10:27:21 AM
SpeshilEdjukashin: Corzine is that cops boss, not the other way around.

I know. Still pisses me off though...
 
2007-04-15 10:27:47 AM
SpeshilEdjukashin: Farkage: And since it was a State Trooper driving him around, he should get stomped on for letting him break the law.

Do you think secret service agents can force the president to wear a seatbelt? Same thing. Corzine is that cops boss, not the other way around.


According to the law in this state, if anyone in my car is not wearing a seat belt (even if I am), I am responsible for the fine for each of them.
 
2007-04-15 10:27:57 AM
Can any of you out there deny the existence of God, and a vengeful one at that, after this incident?
 
2007-04-15 10:29:31 AM
Yeah, but I'm his boss. And, I say you have follow the laws that you were chosen to enforce...that is one of the primary functions of the Executive Branch after all - enforcement of all the laws of the state.
 
2007-04-15 10:29:43 AM
Lincoln: Use the "Outside the U.S." link on those pages. It usually lets you bypass the registration process.
 
2007-04-15 10:32:14 AM
Oh I was talking about this case last night with a bunch of ICU guys (I'd been drinking and we were all ranting about the stupidity of it all). The concern now (well assuming that there isn't massive head trauma -- I mean the doctors don't have to tell the truth when talking to the public about this) is pneumonia.

So the world could still be short one politician.

Not that would be any real loss. But watch the police use this as an excuse to start cracking down on idiots not wearing seat belts.
 
2007-04-15 10:32:28 AM
SBinRR, thanks for the tip but I don't want to reinforce in any way thier splitting of the article into three pages. Shame on them for being douche-bags.
 
2007-04-15 10:32:50 AM
<b>FrancoFile:</b> <i>And his driver is a cop, too.</i>

-- apparently you have never heard of "Directive 4 "
 
2007-04-15 10:33:18 AM
"The family's next door neighbor, Linda Tizol, said she overheard the younger Potts exclaiming to his father yesterday morning, "It's not my fault he didn't have a seat belt.""

Shame on these "journalists" for including hearsay in their reporting.

So...the governor wasn't wearing a seat belt while sitting next to a state trooper? I think the game's over, no one should have to follow any more laws in New Jersey.
 
2007-04-15 10:34:43 AM
According to the law in this state, if anyone in my car is not wearing a seat belt (even if I am), I am responsible for the fine for each of them.

I know. My in laws are all doctors and yet they don't think they need to wear their seat belts in the back of the car. I won't start the car until they do. I say "I don't really care if you die but should we be in an accident your flying bodies will be projectiles and kill me so until you buckle up I'm not driving."

That usually works.
 
2007-04-15 10:36:57 AM
Can any of you out there deny the existence of God, and a vengeful one at that, after this incident?

Not vengeful. Just. With a fine sense of humor. I mean at the end of the day he's in the hospital because he was speeding to get to a meeting about selective outrage.

If that's not comedy I don't know what is.
 
2007-04-15 10:41:45 AM
Meh. Across the state of New Jersey, Corzine is, overall, neither widely hated nor loved. Those of you advocating his getting a ticket for not having worn a seatbelt are being more a bit petty right now.

He's got chest injuries (including a collarbone fracture), multiple rib fractures, a seriously nasty leg fracture, is sedated, is on a breathing ventilator, is in critical (but stable) condition, and is facing more surgery while facing the risk of infections from the accident.
(pops)

Inasmuch as some policemen can be total asses, it would be really dickish to issue him a summons for failure to wear a seatbelt (especially as he's barely conscious). Sometimes the results of your own stupidity are worse than getting a lousy $75 ticket...
 
2007-04-15 10:42:37 AM
Cauchy_Riemann_equations

I don't know anybody who uses seatbelts in the back of the car.
 
2007-04-15 10:46:31 AM
 
2007-04-15 10:46:52 AM
SpeshilEdjukashin: Corzine is that cops boss, not the other way around.

Well, I guess that makes it OK then.
 
2007-04-15 10:49:07 AM
Lincoln: Second page goes to a register screen.

Just plug in a fake zip and B-day and it will let you move on.
 
2007-04-15 10:49:30 AM
From what I've seen on the news here, the state police plan on ticketing him for failure to wear his seat belt once he's in stable condition.
 
2007-04-15 10:49:36 AM
Insane

Well you should. What happens is the car stops abruptly (from hitting something else) and the people in the back go flying into the people in the front. This is bad for all parties.
 
2007-04-15 10:50:53 AM
If you don't wear your seat belt you are just plain ignorant.

Most times dying will be the least of your problems if you get in a serious auto crash.
 
2007-04-15 10:53:13 AM
Andellene: From what I've seen on the news here, the state police plan on ticketing him for failure to wear his seat belt once he's in stable condition.

As he should get ticketed. But they're not doing it how the Repiglicans want it done - ticket him now, while he's in critical condition and berate him as a hypocrite even before he can walk.

I'm sure the Republicans and Imus fans would walk into his hospital room and spit on Corzine if they could.
 
2007-04-15 10:55:32 AM
Most times dying will be the least of your problems if you get in a serious auto crash.

See if more people knew someone with a traumatic brain injury this wouldn't be an issue. At that point being dead is usually a much better option. Even the ugly and scaring part isn't the worst of it (we'll all be old and ugly one day so just get used to it a little earlier) but the part were you're not smart as you once were really sucks. Even worse is that you'll remember your smarter self. You'll remember being able to do other things -- you just won't be able to do them.

By far this is the most worst part of any accident.
 
2007-04-15 10:56:10 AM
lnsane: I don't know anybody who uses seatbelts in the back of the car.

I do. Everyone who rides in the back seat of my car, for instance.

I can honestly say a seatbelt saved my life (at least) once. I'd like to share such good experiences with my passengers when the opportunity arises.
 
2007-04-15 10:57:33 AM
Finnley Wren: Sources say the governor is listed in hypocritical condition.

Well played. Well played indeed.
 
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