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2007-04-13 01:52:59 AM  
Don Imus should limit his apologies to the girls of the Rutgers basketball team but to no one else, Ann Coulter says.

I, for one, am utterly shocked that Ann Coulter is saying he should apologize to anyone at all. Ann Coulter hasn't seemed to have much of a problem with racism in the past.
 
2007-04-13 01:54:46 AM  
She is correct. He's an entertainer not a news source. He's said a lot worse and nobody said boo.
 
2007-04-13 01:56:09 AM  
Irregardless: He's said a lot worse and nobody said boo.

That I agree with. Imus has a history of making racist comments; this is far from an isolated incident.
 
2007-04-13 01:56:34 AM  
What if he would have called her a man that had his penis removed. Would she be cool with that?
 
2007-04-13 02:00:16 AM  
If those two had a child together, I think it would be called an ass.
 
2007-04-13 02:00:46 AM  
I think Imus has become a whipping boy. There are plenty of rappers/comedians that could be whipping boys for saying the same thing.
 
2007-04-13 02:07:24 AM  
She would go batshiat insane if Sharpton called her a, "White Whore".
 
2007-04-13 02:09:09 AM  
Irregardless: I think Imus has become a whipping boy. There are plenty of rappers/comedians that could be whipping boys for saying the same thing.

That's actually true. Most people in the US had never even heard of him until now. And it became way overblown way too long after the fact. You can credit Sharpton for that, I'm pretty sure. That said, it was a pretty nasty thing to say within the context it was said.
 
2007-04-13 02:14:58 AM  
How about giving some of that credit to the news outlets that called the Idiot Sharpton for his "comments?"
 
2007-04-13 02:17:22 AM  
Ann Coulter is totally hot.
 
2007-04-13 02:21:49 AM  
Irregardless: Imus isn't a comedian or a rapper. He's a guy who talks to politicians, pundits, and journalists, and presents himself as a newsy type person. This 'Imus litmus' thing is not about comedy or rap; it's about drawing the line between news and commentary.
 
2007-04-13 02:29:23 AM  
Imus will be re-hired by someone for double his original salary, I guarantee it. How many times was Ann Coulter fired and then re-hired because she had such good ratings that the execs had to get her back? Ya I thought so. Hey maybe fox news will hire Imus, put him on before bill.
 
2007-04-13 02:31:30 AM  
preppunk19

Irregardless: Imus isn't a comedian or a rapper. He's a guy who talks to politicians, pundits, and journalists, and presents himself as a newsy type person. This 'Imus litmus' thing is not about comedy or rap; it's about drawing the line between news and commentary.

Imus is an entertainer. He presents himself as such. He has crossed the line many times and people laughed. I don't think his comments about the basketball team had anything to do with politics, pundits, or journalists. Again, he's said much worse, SNL has done worse skits, Dave Chappelle has done skits that are much worse, rappers lyrics are worse.

He is being made an example of. A whipping boy. An example of what is the question at hand.
 
2007-04-13 02:35:40 AM  
2007-04-13 02:07:24 AM GWLush [TotalFark]
She would go batshiat insane if Sharpton called her a, "White Whore".


This is a very good point. We should compare apples to apples. Or in this case, I guess it's more accurate to say apples to Adam's apples.
 
2007-04-13 02:36:38 AM  
While I believe this whole thing had recieved far more media attention than should be warranted, considering the source, the bottom line remains is that he didn't say this about Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, or any other media slut.
He said this about kids trying to play a game and make their way.
That, my friends, it what makes him a royal enema.
 
2007-04-13 02:36:59 AM  
Ir:

He's not an entertainer. He's a political commentator who makes his living off of being connected to journalists and politicians. I know he's used an SNL style to get more ratings, but he's not the same. Nor is Limbaugh. Nor is Olbermann, on tv, or O'Reilly. There's a difference between skits presented in a Chappelle context, and running commentary presented in a show simulcast on a news network.
 
2007-04-13 02:41:31 AM  
Irregardless: He is being made an example of. A whipping boy. An example of what is the question at hand.

Again, it's about context. He wasn't parodying anything or anyone at the time. He called some people rather nasty names, for no particular reason I can think of. Rutgers was the losing team. Did they lose the game because of their race? He crossed the line, and, unlike others, lost his job because of it. Limbaugh did the exact same thing during his brief ESPN gig. And got fired from that gig.
 
2007-04-13 02:43:52 AM  
Ann Coulter will rise up in the cafeteria and stab them with her plastic penis.
 
2007-04-13 02:44:15 AM  
Irregardless

Comparing Imus to Comedians is actually an interesting argument. I guess it boils down to your sense of humor. There are some comedians that can play around with race. They can make outlandish statements in a context of a joke. They can turn racism into a joke that makes you think. They can try to look at racism through humor. Some comedians like, Richard Pryor, Lenny Bruce, Bob Newhart, The Smothers Brothers, Red Foxx, Freddy Prince, Chris Rock, Louis CK, David Cross, Larry David.. etc have approached race in a humorous manner. Can you honestly find what Imus said humorous? Is it thought provoking? Those are questions you have to ask yourself.

As far as rappers go.. that has been the culture of rap from the beginning. It captures what is said in the black community. Ho, biatch, and Nappy are part of the black vernacular. They have been rapping like that for over 20 years now. To compare a black man saying the word Ni(doubleg)a to what Imus said, in my opinion, is foolish. I don't see it as a double standard. Our ancestors made words like, N*gger, nappy, coon, jiggaboo, and porch monkey racists terms. If black people want to try to take the sting out of those words by making them their vernacular, then all power too them.

It isn't about being politically correct. I think that the ones that wave the PC flag are the ones that want to disparage a race or gender. They want to say hateful words and have no consequence. To me that is wrong.

All that (TF Blog) being said. I think Imus was making a joke that he thought was funny, in his head but it backfired on him. The context of the joke was off and so was the delivery. I don't agree with him being fired.
 
2007-04-13 02:47:37 AM  
Sorry for the long diatribe.
 
2007-04-13 02:52:27 AM  
2007-04-13 02:47:37 AM GWLush [TotalFark]
Sorry for the long diatribe.


No apology necessary--that was an excellent, well-stated post and I agree with every word of it, but you said it better than I could have.
 
2007-04-13 03:03:55 AM  
I really don't get all this arguing about whether Imus is a comedian or a political commentator or a reporter or whatever. What he said was either socially acceptable or unacceptable. It shouldn't matter what job title you claim, either what you say is merely off color or cringe worthy, or it is worthy of condemnation. I'm neither a political commentator nor a comedian nor a 'shock jock' but if I called those girls a bunch of nappy headed hos, it would be wrong. End of story. Even if no one else heard me, it would be wrong.

If you're an ass and no one is around to hear, you're still an ass.
 
2007-04-13 03:04:33 AM  
 
2007-04-13 03:22:12 AM  
Pope George Ringo

That didn't strike me as funny, it kind of felt like I was watching a bad parody of TV Funhouse, written by two guys that took Coulter quotes, hung them on a dart board, and flung poo at them. The ones, with the most poo stuck to them, were the ones they parodied.

Like I said earlier.. I guess it depends on you sense of humor.
 
2007-04-13 03:22:22 AM  
GWLush:

The context of the joke was a bit larger than just that one joke... Imus has called Jews 'crook-nosed' and 'Hebes' on the air; he's called gay people unpleasant names, and... eh. The truth is, if he's a whipping boy, he's not innocent. People need to be held accountable for what they say, and that should probably start with media people who call David Brinkley 'E.T.'.

His firing is beside the point. It's not like he's gonna go away.
 
2007-04-13 03:35:57 AM  
preppunk19: People need to be held accountable for what they say, and that should probably start with media people

Can I hold you accountable for what you say? Can we start there? I'm being facetious, but I suspect you know what I'm implying.
 
2007-04-13 05:26:31 AM  
Clock, twice a day, yadayadayada.

Actually, the fact that she was funny AND made some kind of sense makes it scary.
 
2007-04-13 06:01:49 AM  
//who says the wicked witch of the west was only fiction???? All I can say to Ann is 'HOW ABOUT A LITTLE FIRE SCARCROW"?
 
2007-04-13 06:37:14 AM  
Tom Tomorrow, the artist with a cartoon for every occasion:

www.workingforchange.com
 
2007-04-13 06:44:40 AM  
Ann Coulter on Imus: "He could have called me a flaxen-haired ho. But only while wearing his rubber Nazi uniform and spanking me with a wet newspaper."
 
2007-04-13 06:46:11 AM  
Imus was fired not because of a worry about losing ad revenues..those come back over time. He was fired because he was putting a heck of a lot of influential and powerful people in a very uncomfortable position.

His roster of guests included both the political and media elites, and those elites were starting to feel the pressure from questions that asked them how they felt about his comments and him as a broadcaster in general.

Once those players and their coach gave that press conference and revealed themselves as articulate, poised, and sucessful women, he was done for. No politician or media personality wants to come within five feet of any scandal that makes successful female college atheletes cry.
 
2007-04-13 06:49:41 AM  
i despise ann coulter but i agree with her on this one
 
2007-04-13 07:06:21 AM  
I call himher shiat like that all the time.

/maybe I should do it on the radio?
 
2007-04-13 07:20:21 AM  
I've said it before. Bleach Blond slut would be a comparable statement.
 
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2007-04-13 07:25:31 AM  
Ann Coulter on Imus: "He could have called me a flaxen-haired ho."

No, he couldn't have. The idea with his kind of humor (even when it backfires) is to exaggerate or play off a stereotype in order to push the joke through. If he'd said that about Coulter, it would have not met the exaggeration criteria.

To call Ann Coulter a flaxen-haired ho would just be a statement of fact - not a joke.

But thanks for the sentiment, Ann!
 
2007-04-13 07:53:45 AM  
this article makes me sad.. because i actually like something ann coulter wrote

i feel dirty
 
2007-04-13 08:05:38 AM  
Never heard about this Imus thing. What happened?
 
2007-04-13 08:07:31 AM  
this Imus thing is such PC bullshiat.

/doesn't like Imus.
//Sharpton and Jackson are the biggest farken hypocrites and the press doesn't call them on it.
 
2007-04-13 08:10:37 AM  
I saw a replay of the comment and it looked to me like he was trying to imitate black vernacular. Like when white people try and use "ghettoisms" for humor value or to try and be clever or witty. It backfired, yes, but I don't know that he was being purposely malicious.

White people really should lose the whole "trying to sound black" thing.
 
2007-04-13 08:19:24 AM  
zappaisfrank

White people really should lose the whole "trying to sound black like dumbasses" thing.

Fixed.
 
2007-04-13 08:22:49 AM  
It's so cute when supremacist republitards like Ms. Coulter pretend to like black people.
 
2007-04-13 08:23:27 AM  
Seeing as Ann Coulter embodies the very essence of what it is to be a media whore, the headline is arguably factual.

However, I am disappointed in Fark: this many comments and no mention of "tranny hooker"? This place is slipping.
 
2007-04-13 08:30:31 AM  
FlyingPig: Imus has a history of making racist comments

But this is the only time it cost CBS/NBC money.

Remember the old saying
Money talks, bullshiat walks
 
2007-04-13 08:35:04 AM  
Since when are athletes on nationally-televised events NOT public figures?

Sharpton, Coulter, they're all the same. Just power-grubbing bullshiatters who have no ideals other than themself.
 
2007-04-13 08:50:02 AM  
Henry Rollins has the right approach when it comes to Coulter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM7MR5_v47w

This firing of Imus is bullshiate. I used to work in an office where a coworker would listen to Imus every morning and I heard worse insults than the one he was fired for uttered and laughed at.

He isn't funny and has never been funny to me, but as GWLush said upthread, this joke sounded funny to Imus in his own head - as most of his material has. It was stupid and unfunny, but I don't think it was enough to fire him. Any woman who cries at something as inane and idiotic as what Imus is AND is in the sports world is either too weak-spirited to be an athlete or in need of some hand-holding publicity.
 
2007-04-13 09:06:57 AM  
apparently Ann doesn't realize that the term "ho" is usually reserved for a woman...
 
2007-04-13 09:14:15 AM  
Headso: apparently Ann doesn't realize that the term "ho" is usually reserved for a woman...

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2007-04-13 09:16:22 AM  
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Ann Coulter on Imus: "He could have called me a flaxen-haired ho. But only while wearing his rubber Nazi uniform and spanking me with a wet newspaper."
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I have a dream that starts like that, it always happens the day before I wash the sheets, oddly.
 
2007-04-13 09:21:16 AM  
Mr. Programmer: this article makes me sad.. because i actually like something ann coulter wrote

i feel dirty


No kidding, huh? I feel like I can't count on anything in the world, anymore.
 
2007-04-13 09:22:51 AM  
Cracker_monkey_in_a_cage: //Sharpton and Jackson are the biggest farken hypocrites and the press doesn't call them on it.

Oh come on...they had coverage wall to wall when they both lined up and apologized to the Duke players...
 
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