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2007-04-07 06:29:32 PM  
Liam and Me: Just the other day I shipped a package to a veterinary nutritionist named Mike Veal.

Ha! Back atcha. Excellent.
 
2007-04-07 06:35:05 PM  
FarkmeBlind

I was just assuming that someone reading that post wouldn't know German. And it's a name; you can't make any assumptions about how it has evolved or how exactly it might have been transliterated when her ancestors came to the US. Have a beer or something, it might clear your head :-P

demanton

I am a bitter, lonely, and hard-hearted person, but that story is just sad. I mean, that strikes me as really farked up for some reason.

No contradiction there. It all stems from your pathetic psychological weakness. Go play with your online friends, pansy-boy.

Heh. Just kidding. I know what you mean. I can totally imagine myself dying alone and unnoticed while I'm trying really hard to do something I suck at and which terrifies me. Though I haven't yet figured out how I could die while dancing.
 
2007-04-07 06:36:05 PM  
Why would someone that doesn't know how to swim go to the pool without a buddy to watch out for them? That's like me going to a gay bar without my female companion.
 
2007-04-07 06:42:47 PM  
My dermatologist is named Dr. Horney.

/got nothin.
 
2007-04-07 06:46:33 PM  
grackle: I was just assuming that someone reading that post wouldn't know German.

Then why did you specifically adress it to me?

And it's a name; you can't make any assumptions about how it has evolved or how exactly it might have been transliterated when her ancestors came to the US.

Actually, one can make decent assumptions about how names were transliterated through Ellis/Angel Islands. I do it all the time for immigrants from Russia, China, Japan, etc. I usually get it right, too, by applying fairly standard English linguistics rules and taking into account the age at which the person probably emigrated.

I also make assumptions about where people were born or issued an SSN from the first three numerals.

I am drinking beer. It makes me dumber, but doesn't seem to make other people smarter. Unfortunately.
 
2007-04-07 06:46:53 PM  
You know, the saddest part is, she went out due to trying to face a fear and self-improve.

Big props to her, though she tried a smidge too hard, too fast.

As for me, I know for FACT I'm a sinker; even after putting on a good amount of weight, I still don't float naturally, which was why I hated swimming lessons at first. The instructors wanted me to do the back-float thing, and unfortunately that just Did Not Work. Full lungs from deep breath, thinking 'floaty' thoughts, and trying to ignore the rapidly infringing water in my breathing space and visibility led to a definite no-go.

Mind you, years later, I can semi-float, by which I mean deep breath, and having to maintain at the very least fluttering fingermotion and maybe a hint of toewiggling, but it's nowhere near as graceful or effortless as many of my friends, who basically can carry on conversation while remaining afloat with no movement.

Strangely enough, I've only known a few other people who were less buoyant than myself - one was my TKD instructor, but he was also prone to doing lots and lots and lots of laps - he could swim, but he could not remain still or he'd just, bloop, disappear.

The other was my best friend, when I lived in Spain; he is from Texas originally, and it wasn't 'til I moved to the DFW area that I got the comment his mom had made.

/something about the only wetback she ever saw who couldn't swim
//funny, as they weren't even wetbacks, just mestizos
 
2007-04-07 06:48:03 PM  
Mr_Smartypants: My dermatologist is named Dr. Horney.

Psst, research "Karen Horney" and make with a better joke. That one wasn't bad, though, as aspects of the dermis are often categorized as "horny", such as calluses.
 
2007-04-07 06:51:12 PM  
TheAntiElite: As for me, I know for FACT I'm a sinker; even after putting on a good amount of weight, I still don't float naturally, which was why I hated swimming lessons at first.

Meheheh, I feelya. After moving to the West, I contacted a diving instructor whose reply after I told him I was a sinker was, "Good, we won't have to weight you." Either PADI or NAUI, here I come.

/also why I won't get facial piercings. Face has to remain watertight
//yes, I can hear the perverts typing
 
2007-04-07 06:53:32 PM  
Aquatics Program Assistant Amy Kindell said Green had been practicing some sort of "brick pushing exercise" involving a 10-pound dumbbell in deep water, according to a police report.

So basically she was on the bottom, and probably took a breath of water. She might have spazmed around some, but if anyone was looking at her they thought she was messing with the weight or something. SAD, but it's not like some people seem to think here that she was splashing around on the surface and the 4 lifeguards did nothing. Also, we don't know how many pools these 4 guards were watching. Maybe no one was at her pool.
 
2007-04-07 06:58:08 PM  
Hint: frohlich is a German word.

Ja, ich weiss, Froehliche Weinachten. That's not even funny if you pronounce it correctly.

and the blah-blah-blah


And that's what I love about Fark.

I don't even have to leave home to get stupid barfight-quality comedy...

My had dad to walk uphill both ways in the snow to the local ginmill to get quality entertainment like this...

I love the internet.

/pickled eggs, anyone?
 
2007-04-07 06:59:35 PM  
501nBoots: My had dad to walk uphill both ways in the snow to the local ginmill to get quality entertainment like this...

I'll betcha five bucks it wasn't bilingual.
 
2007-04-07 06:59:44 PM  
I laughed when I RTFA.
 
2007-04-07 07:00:27 PM  
FarkmeBlind

The double good part of that transaction was when I said "That's a funny name" to the customer, he started grinning--then I remembered his form said his name was Mark McGwire. Many jokes about how the steroids weren't working had to be restrained.
 
2007-04-07 07:00:31 PM  
falkensmaze: With her considering that water was an enemy & her inability to swim, or even stay afloat, why was she considering becoming a lifeguard? The drowning victim would end up rescuing her.

Indeeed.

She was obviously not comfortable in the water.

Likely she coughed or sneezed or something under water and panicked.
 
2007-04-07 07:01:56 PM  
Liam and Me: The double good part of that transaction was when I said "That's a funny name" to the customer, he started grinning--then I remembered his form said his name was Mark McGwire. Many jokes about how the steroids weren't working had to be restrained.

So, how was the ensuing hernia surgery, and have the migraines receded?

/I couldn't have resisted.
//I salute you.
 
2007-04-07 07:08:29 PM  
FarkmeBlind:

"Therefore nobody drowns and swimming "lessons" are just boondoggles? Just because you don't understand a phenomenon doesn't mean it doesn't happen."

Really? There is very few things I don't understand.

I had a problem figureing out how to open a bottle of wine with this 12" mechanical monstrosity that I recieved as an X-mas gift. My bud said "Everyone is using these." After 3 months, I "understood" to throw it in the garbage and go back to my wine key.

Tell me I don't understand phenomenon.

I also understand jackoffs that post without reading the entire post of the person they are intending to flame.

/Things I don't understand: American Idol, why yellow jacket bees can fly with such small wings and Quantam physics (Just the space time thing, I get the rest.)
//Thinking of starting a swimming class
 
2007-04-07 07:08:49 PM  
Cerebral Ballsy: Swimming is very hard if you are panicked about it.

The stereotype about blacks not swimming coems from:

Fewer blacks have access to good swimming pools.

EVERY decent pool I swam in growing up was in an urban area.

Fewer blacks have access to swimming lessons as children.
EVERY one of them had free swimming lessons.

Fewer blacks' parents know how to swim and pass it on.
Likely. Whose fault is it to not bring them down to the urban pool for lessons?

Back in the old days, blacks weren't exactly welcome at the ol' swimming hole.
Unlikely. Different groups had different 'swim holes'.
 
2007-04-07 07:12:30 PM  
FarkmeBlind

Then why did you specifically adress it to me?

Your comment was the previous one in the series. Yet, I knew that addressing it specifically to you would not cause other people to skip it. But you're just trolling now. Forgive me for taking you seriously.

As for the rest of it, that's trolling too, or at best, just drunken silliness. Arrival in the US is only one occasion when the name might have been changed. Name get changed for lots of reasons, including clerical errors. It didn't even need to change. If the name came from the German word "frohlich" (umlaut omitted because Fark has some issues and I can't be bothered to find a way around them), there's no reason to assume that the first guy who wrote it down was fully literate, or even German-speaking.
 
2007-04-07 07:16:07 PM  
RockIsDead
I couldn't help but blast your profile.
At 31:
I do eat the same things I ate at 16, but I eat other things as well.
When I don't go to the office, I wear the same types of clothing that I wore at 16.
Yes, I listen to other types of music as well, but I still listen to rock. What's wrong with that?
 
2007-04-07 07:22:22 PM  
I'll betcha five bucks it wasn't bilingual.

You're right there...

it was trilingual...

we spoke German, Polish and English in my neighborhood...

plus anyone who grew up "on the other side" probably could smatter in Russian or Ukrainian as well.

Depended on who owned what part of Eastern Europe when the forebears came over...

don't suppose you're going out for Dyngus Day, are ya?

/back to my Okocim
//Sto Lat
 
2007-04-07 07:22:41 PM  
WxAxGxS

HAHA! I'm going to hell also. BTW, is that Sloth??

/HEY YOU GUYYYYYYYS!!!!!
 
2007-04-07 07:24:46 PM  
RedShirtGuy: There is very few things I don't understand.

Such as...proper use of the language? How to spell quantum? That yellowjacket flight is well within the realm of regular physics? Do yourself a favor and stop digging this particular hole.

grackle: Forgive me for taking you seriously.

Errr, no, you didn't take me seriously enough.

just drunken silliness.

Who was it that advocated I Have a beer or something, now you are castigating me for "drunken silliness"? Is your last name O'Crite?

Oh, sorry, that would be "O'Kritt", right?

Do you know what "schweinhund" means? Cuz you should.
 
2007-04-07 07:26:32 PM  
RedShirtGuy: Tell me I don't understand phenomenon.

Well, you certainly don't understand that the plural of phenomenon, is phenomona.

Do you know what a masochist is?
 
2007-04-07 07:27:19 PM  
Oops, phenomena.

/preview is not my friend, but I should call him/her more often.
 
2007-04-07 07:38:31 PM  
FarkmeBlind

Who was it that advocated I Have a beer or something, now you are castigating me for "drunken silliness"?

You need some kind of chemical correction; I just can't figure out what to recommend for a nervous, babbling drunk.
 
2007-04-07 07:40:52 PM  
Tukwila, eh?
 
2007-04-07 07:44:44 PM  
RedShirtGuy I had a problem figureing out how to open a bottle of wine with this 12" mechanical monstrosity that I recieved as an X-mas gift

Try being born with one. But I've never used it to open a bottle of wine.
 
2007-04-07 07:47:32 PM  
There are people who cant swim????
 
2007-04-07 07:50:08 PM  
grackle: I just can't figure out what to recommend for a nervous, babbling drunk.

Let's recap. You said some transliterated German name was somehow funny/ironic. I disagreed (on the basis of speaking said language and having experience in the transliteration of same, you said was impossible) and wondered why you automatically assumed that I didn't speak the language from which said unfunny name derived. You then go on a several-post tirade accusing me of being an alcoholic, when you were the person who first told me to "have a beer". Yet, the "problem" if any IYHO, is mine.

I'll agree that someone in this discussion needs serious help. I'll propose that your opinion of same is diametrically opposed to mine.

/I also propose that you have to look up "diametrically"
//turn off the internet; educate yourself
 
2007-04-07 07:51:13 PM  
LMark: I do eat the same things I ate at 16, but I eat other things as well.
When I don't go to the office, I wear the same types of clothing that I wore at 16.
Yes, I listen to other types of music as well, but I still listen to rock. What's wrong with that?


What's wrong with it is how people use its popularity as an excuse to NOT expand beyond it.

Most who claim to listen to other genres actually rarely do if you press for details, mostly because rock provides such a secure clique to stay cloistered within.

If I said "hey, listen to rock, but also try some other stuff", rock fans will just see that as affirmation of their rock-centered validity. So I prefer to say "LEAVE IT BEHIND!" to provoke a more passionate response and to jar their complacency.
 
2007-04-07 08:01:20 PM  
I'd hit it.
 
2007-04-07 08:06:53 PM  
FarkmeBlind

"Well, you certainly don't understand that the plural of phenomenon, is phenomona."

WTF kinda Troll are you?

How do you know I was'nt going for the singular?

Spelling and gramma' Nazi's are my favorite!

Believe it or not, alot of us Farkers have been out of High School/College for a couple of decade's and sometimes forget certain rules of phrases or spelling. We even forget punctuation!

One of these days when you grow up, you'll understand.
 
2007-04-07 08:11:27 PM  
http://www.halls.md/bmi/heritage.htm
 
2007-04-07 08:15:17 PM  
Super long story... I almost drowned with a 20 lb weight when I was doing lifeguard training as a teenager. I was a good swimmer, and during my training we were supposed to use a 10lb weight, but for the test the instructor could not find any more 10 lbs weights, and gave me a 20. For those of you who have never done this, it is insanely hard to lift a weight off of the bottom. You have to swim it up... much harder than you think. Anyway. He dropped the weight into the lake ( not a pool mind you ), and I dove in and started looking. It took me awhile to find the weight ( with the mud and all ) and I did not want to come up for air. I thought I was superman, and pulled it up over my head and started swimming up, and I got it just a few inches below the surface. I could actually see out of the water, but I could not get it any higher. I felt my chest burning so intensely, and then I pulled the weigh close to my chest and tried even harder. I had this moment where I involuntarily swallowed... I didn't bring in water, but it was so weird that I finally had that light bulb moment that I was going to drown if I didn't drop the farking weight and surface.

I had no trouble floating to the surface, but if the girl in TFA did, I could easily see how she could easily have drowned.
 
2007-04-07 08:22:39 PM  
Those teeth looked pretty heavy in the pic. Could those 10 kg teeth have contributed?
 
2007-04-07 08:23:23 PM  
One of these days when you grow up, you'll understand.

Awww, you continue to believe that age somehow also confers wisdom, as well as punctuation, grammar, complexity of thought, and wittiness of rhetoric. Actually, only young people believe that, because older people know that dumb is forever, as is being demonstrated by, guess who?

I'll just go ahead and believe that the your above remarks are the last grasps at that Bactrian's final spinal straw. Enjoy your recuperation time, Gimel.
 
2007-04-07 08:46:02 PM  
I, for one, would be the first Fark Liter to buy FarkmeBlind drinks in my old neighborhood if he ever hits this coast...

he and my dad and the uncles would have a blast discussing philosophy, history and rhetoric...

although no one on my side of the family would even work up to those terms...

I'll man the camera and keep the pitchers full and the snacks on the tables...

Vodka, Kummel, Schnapps... and an assortment of German and Polish beers.

the fu is strong in this one...
 
2007-04-07 08:49:28 PM  
She was practicing lifting weights off the bottom of the pool. chances are the lifeguards knew she was down there but did not realize she was in trouble.

here is a tip: if you suck at swimming and do not float, don't lift weights at the bottom of the pool.
 
2007-04-07 09:07:46 PM  
Who swims on their honeymoon?
 
2007-04-07 09:42:24 PM  
Farkmeblind: "Awww, you continue to believe that age somehow also confers wisdom, as well as punctuation, grammar, complexity of thought, and wittiness of rhetoric. Actually, only young people believe that, because older people know that dumb is forever, as is being demonstrated by, guess who?

I'll just go ahead and believe that the your above remarks are the last grasps at that Bactrian's final spinal straw. Enjoy your recuperation time, Gimel."


Once again your showing your ignorance. I never said that "older is wiser" my statements meaning was when you get older you forget the proper phraseing or spelling of word because of years of not being disiplined to use them.

I use math everyday, some people don't. I would never jump on my Chrome White horse if someone could'nt convert inch's to metric in a half second, or figure a simple Trig equation.

Punks like you do that. Kids like you take a couple of English classes in College and think your Farking Tolstoy.

This is Fark Icehole!

Troll Tera Nova and see how smart you are there.
 
2007-04-07 10:08:47 PM  
By the way, the spelling of Tera Nova was on purpose!

A joke from me to you on this Christian Holiday!
 
2007-04-07 10:44:50 PM  
"They may not have some of the necessities to be -- let's say, a field manager or perhaps a general manager. Why are black men or black people not good swimmers? Because they don't have the buoyancy."

//Gotta love Al Campanis
///Almost as good as the best racist quote by a coach or GM ever - Bill Parcells referring to a trick play in the game just played, "No offense to the Orientals, that's what we call one of our Jap plays. No offense to the Orientals."
 
R81
2007-04-07 11:35:28 PM  
I'm a white woman and I've never been able to float without moving. Once I slow down I start to sink. Feet first, then the rest of me just follows. I don't sink to the bottom though.

But I swim like a fish and I love the water.
 
2007-04-07 11:36:31 PM  
reading that made me so sad.

she looks like such a good person somehow.
 
2007-04-08 01:54:50 AM  
allthesametome

Well, maybe she realized that not being able to swim WAS POSING A RISK to her and so she was TRYING TO LEARN!

/lifeguards' faults
 
2007-04-08 03:01:44 AM  
I'm half black and swim well enough. My father, (quite blacker,) swims well, but sinks like a rock. When he'd take me swimming years ago, he'd do laps pretty much submerged.
 
jxc
2007-04-08 03:42:06 AM  
body fat = buoyancy
 
2007-04-08 06:28:01 AM  
She...She's farking DEAD??
 
2007-04-08 10:31:41 AM  
ive never understood how the hell people cant swim. you flap your arms and legs around or you sink and die. where the f*ck is the disconnect there?
 
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