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(Chicago Sun-Times)   Dalai Lama plans trip to Chicago. Evangelicals holding workshops on how to try and convert Buddhists to Christianity when they arrive. What could possibly go wrong?   (suntimes.com) divider line 513
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2007-04-04 11:04:21 AM
The spiritual leader is expected to stay on the 24th floor of the Palmer House Hilton in the presidential suite, where amenities include three bathrooms.

"998...999...1000 words; all done!", said the journalist.
 
2007-04-04 11:09:00 AM
submitter: What could possibly go wrong?

The Buddhists are able to convince the Evangelicals that they don't exist, causing them to spontaneously disappear?
 
2007-04-04 11:10:24 AM
Nothing because Buddhists usually tend toward non-confrontational views?

TFA: The online announcement for the upcoming workshop offers this enticing hook: "Tibetan Buddhism. It's ancient. It's complex. It's trendy. And its leader, the Dalai Lama, is visiting your city this spring."

blahblahblah... blahblah... wait, it's trendy?! I'm THERE!
 
2007-04-04 11:10:50 AM
submitter: What could possibly go wrong?

a better option might have been "what is the sound of something going wrong" ...

either way, i doubt it would occur to most tibetan buddhists to care what the evangelicals do --
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2007-04-04 11:11:48 AM
He could be eaten by a coyote at Quiznos.
 
2007-04-04 11:12:35 AM
I'm going to step on these bugs unless you swear allegiance to Jebus...
 
2007-04-04 11:13:17 AM
I'm so pissed about this that I didnt' get past the first few sentences of TFA. How presumptious, ignorant and disrespectful (I could go on) can these evangelicals be??? I know they think that their religion is the end all/be all. Nonetheless, they just royally piss me off!
 
2007-04-04 11:14:03 AM
Funny--I've been tempted to try to convert evangelicals to Buddhism.

Unfortunately, none have showed up at the door when I've been around for me to try that.
 
2007-04-04 11:15:06 AM
AuntofDogface: . How presumptious, ignorant and disrespectful (I could go on) can these evangelicals be??? I know they think that their religion is the end all/be all.

There it is, in a nutshell.
 
2007-04-04 11:15:54 AM
kingMountain: "998...999...1000 words; all done!", said the journalist.

Heh!
 
2007-04-04 11:16:12 AM
Just so no one thinks Christians have a monopoly on nutty - http://www.thaitravelblogs.com/content/view/118/51/
 
2007-04-04 11:16:33 AM
patrick767: Nothing because Buddhists usually tend toward non-confrontational views?

That's the likely outcome. Not exactly easy to ruffle those guy's feathers.
 
2007-04-04 11:16:49 AM
"Doug Van Bronkhorst". Geez, his name sounds like a Seuss character. Leave the Buddhists alone for cryin out loud.

The online announcement for the upcoming workshop offers this enticing hook: "Tibetan Buddhism. It's ancient. It's complex. It's trendy. And its leader, the Dalai Lama, is visiting your city this spring."

Can something be both ancient and trendy?
 
2007-04-04 11:19:06 AM
"I am the spiritual leader of the Buddhist faith. Do not want your Jesus!"
 
2007-04-04 11:19:10 AM
Diogenes: Can something be both ancient and trendy?

Hummus.
 
2007-04-04 11:20:32 AM
"The spiritual leader is expected to stay on the 24th floor of the Palmer House Hilton in the presidential suite, where amenities include three bathrooms."

So, he's got that going for him, which is nice.
 
2007-04-04 11:21:05 AM
68.97.54.115:8080

I wouldn't be surprised if there were more Christian--> Buddhist conversions than the other way around.

Despite the best efforts of the ministers and church community there's bound to be a few evangelicals here and there who are still vulnerable to logic.
 
2007-04-04 11:22:43 AM
muninsfire: Ah, very clever, grasshopper.
 
2007-04-04 11:24:23 AM
So they are going to try and convert them? Why don't they try to convert them.

/grammar Nazi
 
2007-04-04 11:25:30 AM
I remember a few years ago a local talk radio station had a group of Buddhist monks come in to talk about religion and spirituality. The phone lines immediately lit up with (mostly) Southern Baptists who told them they were all going to Hell for refusing to accept Jesus as their personal savior.

The Buddhists just thanked them for their concern about their souls and continued the conversation with the host like nothing happened. I think their lack of concern made the callers madder than anything.

Great night of radio...
 
2007-04-04 11:25:53 AM
Rev. Skarekroe

I don't think anyone thought Christians were nutty because their religion included ideas about "hell".
 
2007-04-04 11:26:51 AM
Buddhism* is very similar to Christianity**.

Basically: be a good person. Help other people. Try to spread peace, happiness and understanding.


*what many (not all) Buddhists practice is NOT Buddhism.

**what many (not all) evangelical Christians practice is NOT Christianity.
 
2007-04-04 11:27:32 AM
At the end of an Evangelical's soliloquy, I can hear a Buddhist simply saying "You know, we don't tithe, we don't make you witness, and you can sleep in on Sundays"

"Where's my robe? I'm in."
 
2007-04-04 11:28:59 AM
I went to a talk by the Dalai Llama with an open mind and it was the most boring pseudospiritual bs masquerading as science, with people who somehow managed to attain "Dr." infront of their name explaining the science behind how if everyone is nice to each other then the world will become a better place... NO shiat
 
2007-04-04 11:29:58 AM
vernonFL

Well if that was really all there was to them (which is not true), then the buddhists are sure as hell doing a much better job of sticking to those precepts than most Christians are.
 
2007-04-04 11:30:24 AM
Badger: That reminds me of the bit from Robin Williams about self-immolation.

"What the fark are you doing?"

"Making your deal with your own shiat."
 
2007-04-04 11:31:26 AM
EzraS: Well if that was really all there was to them (which is not true), then the buddhists are sure as hell doing a much better job of sticking to those precepts than most Christians are.

It doesn't tend to make the news when they don't.
 
2007-04-04 11:34:05 AM
Don't be angry at the evangelicals. They're doing what what Jesus said to do:

Matthew 28:19-20 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."

To do what Jesus says to do is not presumptuous, arrogant, or disrespectful. It's an act of love toward God and toward a fellow human being. Happy Easter.
 
2007-04-04 11:35:02 AM
muninsfire

Right. I'm sure there are tons of buddhists in asia getting their robes all in a twist about gay marriage, trying to stop people from using condoms, trying to convince each other there's a holy war on, protesting funerals, molesting little boys and trying to muddle scientific progress with political agendas - but we just don't hear about it.
 
2007-04-04 11:35:40 AM
Lilmama: To do what Jesus says to do is not presumptuous, arrogant, or disrespectful.

To do it as Jesus did--by living a good life, and showing people how to live a good life--is not disrespectful, yes.

To do it as evangelicals do, by threatening people with hellfire if they don't do what you say, is disrespectful--and kinda stupid, and really hilarious when you can get 'em feeding back on themselves to the point where they blow up.
 
2007-04-04 11:36:10 AM
Lilmama: Don't be angry at the evangelicals. They're doing what what Jesus said to do


This statement presupposes that what Jesus said to do is right.
 
2007-04-04 11:36:16 AM
EzraS: but we just don't hear about it.

Nah, when there's Buddhist problems, it's usually just plain old killing each other or something, from what I remember.
 
2007-04-04 11:37:48 AM
lilmama I respectfully disagree... I don't care what Jesus said - if I'm perfectly happy with the religion I have or don't have, you have no business shoving that crap down my or anyone else's throat. By witnessing, you are disrespecting other religions.

Again, Christianity, in its many flavors, is not the ONLY religion in this world.
 
2007-04-04 11:38:29 AM
JerseyTim

So, he's got that going for him, which is nice.

Awesome.
 
2007-04-04 11:39:38 AM
AuntofDogface: Again, Christianity, in its many flavors, is not the ONLY religion in this world.

Very true. And as turnabout's fair play, other folks can get evangelical too in the same way.
 
2007-04-04 11:46:43 AM
muninsfire My vitriol is not limited to Christianity - it goes for all religions. If I want to be preached to, I'll let you know... I have a relative that slips "propaganda" in my purse, suitcase, etc. whenever I visit. Before I leave, I go thru my stuff, remove it and leave it on the bed.
 
2007-04-04 11:47:36 AM
Gunga galunga.

Gunga, gunga-galunga.
 
2007-04-04 11:53:06 AM
They would do well to shut up, listen and learn for a change.
 
2007-04-04 11:55:28 AM
"I'm speaking without knowing anything about this group," said the Rev. Stan Davis, acting director of the council. "But my sense is that their goal is to try to convert to Christianity. Our goal would be to enter into a dialogue with them, to find out about their faith in a two-way conversation."

My problem with evangelicals -- the main one anyway -- is the arrogance.

They would do better to be more like this guy.
 
2007-04-04 11:56:40 AM
Lilmama: Don't be angry at the evangelicals. They're doing what what Jesus said to do:

Here's another verse that should be heeded:

And when you pray, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily, I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father in secret.
Jesus - Matthew, 6:5 - 6
 
2007-04-04 12:01:54 PM
What could possibly go wrong?

Sensationalist writers would realize nothing happened and be forced into a circle-jerk?
 
2007-04-04 12:02:00 PM
costa

if everyone is nice to each other then the world will become a better place

Well, it will, actually. Unless you're one of those jerks who actively tries to dick up other peoples' days as I'm sure that would rain on your parade a bunch, but yeah.

/non-religious
//adheres to the rule "don't be a dick"
 
2007-04-04 12:02:14 PM
Popcorn, getcher popcorn! I got redhots, getcher redhots right here! The beer man's coming, folks, how about some fresh roasted peanuts in the shell! Popcorn!
 
2007-04-04 12:02:16 PM
What could possibly go wrong?
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2007-04-04 12:02:33 PM
Foobert Bravo!!! Like with everything else in the bible, the Christian evangelicals like to pick and choose.
 
2007-04-04 12:02:55 PM
Just for the record, kingmountain won the thread in one.

But seriously, as a Christian, I'll be putting on my "We're Not All Like That" t-shirt and bow my head for a few days.

It's interesting, because I saw a woman on the train the other day reading a book called Living Buddha, Living Christ, and I forgot to look it up online. I don't know if it combines Budddhism and Christianity or contrasts them, but I think I could really hang out with a combo of these two religions, particularly because of my anxiety disorder and stuff. Christianity doesn't give me the peace that I've often sought because too many people answer my questions with "don't worry, Jesus is coming to get us soon and you won't need to pay your bills!".
 
2007-04-04 12:02:57 PM
eh, I think too many people idolize the Lama. Buddhism is cool, but he's just a person, and I don't think he's better than everyone else.
 
2007-04-04 12:03:37 PM
jbc

he could be eaten by a coyote at quiznos

FTW!!!!
 
2007-04-04 12:03:54 PM
Is it just me, or does the Dalai Lama always look like he just farted and isn't trying to laugh:

tbn0.google.com
 
2007-04-04 12:03:58 PM
AuntofDogface: How presumptious, ignorant and disrespectful (I could go on) can these evangelicals be??? I know they think that their religion is the end all/be all. Nonetheless, they just royally piss me off!

What's the point of having a religion if you don't believe it's the right one? If they said, nah, don't convert, you can burn in hell, you'd be snarking them as hypocrits. If they weren't AWing, you'd be snarking them for being unAmerican.
 
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