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(Guardian)   French set new high-speed train record. Now able to deliver white flag from Paris to Berlin in under two hours   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 327
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2007-04-03 12:54:16 PM
On the BBC article about this they were talking about the plans for a high-speed line between LA and San Francisco or Sad Diego, one of the two.
 
2007-04-03 12:56:43 PM
TheYeti

My response to people who say "Gee, maybe you should move, then" is:

"No, we want you guys to move so we can have a better America."

 
2007-04-03 12:57:59 PM
RonMexico
Somebody has to.


AAAAAAahahahahah! My sides hurt.

/keep it up canyoneer and danploon
//you guys are cracking me up
 
2007-04-03 12:58:11 PM
Teucer: /smoked a joint with some african guy in the baggage car

You mean African-American. Don't be a bigot.
 
2007-04-03 12:58:29 PM
"You'd think that people like Canyoneer and cutlip98 would, you know, leave the country in search of better places to live"

Countless others to be honest. Japan, Singapore, Israel, Taiwan, all have left the US far behind. And feeling so sorry to the innocent ones in US, they are getting stabbed in the back by their own kind by being told that people in other countries still think US is a world leader
 
2007-04-03 12:59:31 PM
I think it's time that "surrender" enters the fark filter.


This fossilized cliche just continues to proves that americans know almost nothing of other countries.

There are plenty of other things you can make fun of the french for, but farkers will never know.
 
2007-04-03 12:59:42 PM
Moonbat [TotalFark]

Okay, so that was kind of funny.

I usually like to be subtle when I troll. Makes life more interesting.
 
M-G
2007-04-03 12:59:45 PM
canyoneer: Meanwhile, France moves forward.

While I suspect you're just out for a morning troll, and have some valid points, I gather you've never tried to make a connecting flight at CDG.
 
2007-04-03 01:00:23 PM
In other news, I've heard they're considering TGV for a LA - SF connection. Don't know anything 'bout it though.
 
2007-04-03 01:02:37 PM
Barricaded Gunman

What part of my statement is deluded? Our film industry is the world standard. Our fast food is the world standard. Our universities are the world standard. Our medicine is the world standard.

If Princess Di had crashed in the US, she would be alive today.
 
2007-04-03 01:02:52 PM
huhuhuhuhuhuhuh

france....

huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh

surrenders....

huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh

DIAF
 
2007-04-03 01:04:18 PM
cutlip98
um.......dude, who was the country that sacrificed blood and treasure to liberate those poor, war-wrought Frenchmen both times? They call it the Greatest Generation for a reason, son. Open a history book and check the scoreboard.

/should not feed the troll
 
2007-04-03 01:04:26 PM
I think if enough people come into France Surrenders threads and mocks the submitter we might get some traction, but Drew loves the cliche', so we will probably never get rid of it.

Drew's not very smart.
 
2007-04-03 01:04:59 PM
masCh: Japan, Singapore, Israel, Taiwan, all have left the US far behind.


Right, because apartheid is, like, so progressive. And the constant fear of explosive death makes any country attractive.
 
2007-04-03 01:06:15 PM
dbaggins: This fossilized cliche just continues to proves that americans know almost nothing of other countries.

Right, but the "ignorant American" cliche is still fresh and new, right?
 
2007-04-03 01:06:43 PM
cutlip98:

Dude, I'm a russian jew, and between both of my bloodlines we've lost more people during WW2 than all french who died in the past century, squared. And guess what, there were more American lives lost saving your country than there were french immigrated to the US.

You have no place criticizing US, instead you should pay deep respects for US troops who liberated your country, instead of throwing cheap uneducated shots... You'd be licking some SS major's boots right now if it wasn't for US and other allied troops. So STFUP.
 
2007-04-03 01:07:03 PM
I think "France Riots" would make a better jab at our brethren across the ocean.
 
2007-04-03 01:08:49 PM
cutlip98: you f*cking pigs have no idea what has been sacrificed. The French, and Europeans in general, have seen more war firsthand than any faux patriot that lives in the States and pats him/herself on the back and tells themselves how sweet they are.

Maybe if you Europeans would start acting like civilized neighbors, instead of constantly invading each other, then you wouldn't have those problems.
 
2007-04-03 01:10:12 PM
zap branigan
They call it the Greatest Generation for a reason, son.


Marketing?
 
2007-04-03 01:10:51 PM
Smarshmallow

Right, but the "ignorant American" cliche is still fresh and new, right?


remarkably, the shoe just keeps on fitting. It fits better today than it did a decade ago when magazines all wrote hand-wringing articles about it. In fact, it fits even better.

The "France Surrenders" cliche' pretty much sums up most american's knowledge of european history.
 
2007-04-03 01:12:41 PM
Wow. A clever permutation of a cliche that came out in a book 8 years ago about an event that occurred over 60 years ago. Way to strike while the iron's hot.
 
2007-04-03 01:13:21 PM
zap branigan
um.......dude, who was the country that sacrificed blood and treasure to liberate those poor, war-wrought Frenchmen both times?

Ever drink the last half cup of milk and then have someone say "Hey, you drank all the milk!"

The USA in both WWI and WWIb* indeed made a crucial difference, but we did not do the lion's share of the work. You need to read a history book yourself.

*Sometimes thought of as a whole nother war, but it was just a resumption of WWI after growing a new crop of cannon fodder.
 
2007-04-03 01:15:34 PM
"Maybe if you Europeans would start acting like civilized neighbors, instead of constantly invading each other, then you wouldn't have those problems."

And instead, invade third world countries like Vietnam or Iraq where US can show the world that US are kickass.. but wait.. US still lost.

I guess that's why PRoC says "Talk to the hand"
 
2007-04-03 01:16:15 PM
I spent some time in France a number of years ago. While it's not exactly my cup of tea, I thought the place was pretty nice. It was dirtier than Germany, but the food was exquisite. The weather sucked and it's an anthill of people, but that's no different than anywhere else in Europe. The trains were fantastic - fast and clean and ultra-modern and spot on time everywhere. The poeople were friendly and not rude at all, especially in Normandy, but also even in Paris. Fine museums, great architecture, and Paris is a very cool, fun, interesting city. I rather liked it in comparison to, say, Belgium or Austria or England.

But Europe is not my cup of tea, as I've said. Crappy weather and way too crowded. I am merely pointing out that the paleolithic American attitude is just over-the-top. The differences between industrialized countries are really not all that stark. The idea that France has a moribund economy is laughable, and the people who say it will claim in the same breath that all the French are lazy welfare bums. Isn't it kind of hard to simultaneously have the money to support millions of lazy welfare bums and have a moribund economy? The logical disconnect is retarded.

No, France isn't paradise, because nowhere is paradise. But all of this hyperventilating harsh criticism of the French smacks of paranoia. Do that many people need a whipping boy to make them feel better about America? That is a sign of some kind of emotional handicap at the very least.
 
2007-04-03 01:16:37 PM
canyoneer

Absolutely right-on. Anyone who is calling you a troll for speaking the truth about our laughably misguided frat-boy used-car-salesman country is a wasteful moran.

Can you believe that in 2007 we're still having debates over whether evolution should be taught in schools? That we're building communities of 30,000 flimsy stucco houses in the middle of the desert 10 miles from the nearest bus stop? That as we speak, Fox News is convincing millions of Americans that Barack Obama is unfit to be President based solely on his middle name? That 41 million Americans still have no health insurance? That same-sex couples still don't have the right to get married? That the time-honored tradition of beating up on minorities is still alive and well? That automatic weapons are still easier to acquire than beer? That racist, classist public and corporate policy is quickly turning this country into a banana republic where light-skinned plutocrats are served almost exclusively by a downtrodden, helotized worker class of blacks and Latinos? That our federal government continues to spend billions of dollars hauling away innocent people who just wanted to smoke some wacky weed? That the Army recruits children? That the government EXECUTES children? That the pointless war in you-know-where is STILL going on? That the political dialogue in this country is pushed so far to the right that what seems like fair socialism everywhere else in the world is laughed out of the debate?

I know I can't. And the vocabulary of "revolution" has been so corporatized, so co-opted that any possibility of real change is a joke.

Have you ever noticed that Canada's economy is growing much faster than ours right now? I was in Vancouver two weeks ago, and it's amazing how much more harmonious that country seems without the poor, minority underclass that most of America seems content to step on with pride.
 
2007-04-03 01:17:17 PM
So if we become European in our thinking we can save America?

That's going to be tough considering that most European cultures have been arround for thousands of years while America is only slightly over 200.
 
2007-04-03 01:18:22 PM
canyoneer: In twenty years, America will be a 3rd-rate, 3rd World sh*thole, while France will still be a modern, 1st World nation. This is because America is owned and operated by stupid frat boys who didn't pay attention in class and talk themselves up with their own cleverness and superiority in an endless circle-jerk echo-chamber. In truth they're just a bunch of lazy 3rd-generation dilettantes squandering grandpa's built-up fortune.

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with your post... how dare you say 20 years before the US turns into a 3rd world?... 10 years is more like it. 5 if you take a good look at their pompous attitudes and have them going in a civil war in consideration, I'm surprised that this hasn't happened yet.

Hell, between the lazy asses, the pot smoking asses, the conceded asses, the gun happy asses, the big brother fearing asses, the paranoid asses, the racist asses, there's very few all around decent folks left down there. The ideology of getting rich doing nothing, thinking that the world should suck up to them just because they were "born" american is going to hit them hard one day.

I see the world changing, most countries work toward solutions, some which involves cooperation, and then there's the states... 3rd world?... I'd say that they'll manage to find/create what a 4th world is, and mentally, many are already there.

Overall, an "american" is nothing without his attitude and his gun.

/laugh it up yuck boys...
/with my sorrow going out to the few good ones.
 
2007-04-03 01:25:10 PM
dbaggins: Drew's not very smart.

There will be a knock at your door shortly.

Drew sees you.
 
2007-04-03 01:25:29 PM
dbaggins: remarkably, the shoe just keeps on fitting. It fits better today than it did a decade ago when magazines all wrote hand-wringing articles about it. In fact, it fits even better.

The "France Surrenders" cliche' pretty much sums up most american's knowledge of european history.


And what post-WWII French victories have occurred that can balance out your embarrassing defeats? The French-Algerian war? The Indochina War?

Listen, I agree that the french-surrender thing is a bit dated, but it's no more dated than any of the anti-American cliches that abound. I just don't like to see people talking out of both sides of their mouths.

Also, it clearly still works to ruffle some feathers, as can be accounted by the number of hissy-fits being thrown on this thread.
 
2007-04-03 01:27:25 PM
Chaim Witz, I withdraw my criticism.

yasharki: You have no place criticizing US, instead you should pay deep respects for US troops who liberated your country, instead of throwing cheap uneducated shots... You'd be licking some SS major's boots right now if it wasn't for US and other allied troops. So STFUP.

Unless you personally stormed the beach at Normandy, I think it's time to stop milking that particular goat. And "cheap uneducated shots" is far too large a card for you to play.
 
2007-04-03 01:29:47 PM
In 10 years Europe will be an Islamic run chunk of land worth a few rupies.
 
2007-04-03 01:34:42 PM
jshine

The TGV actually has a very good safety track record, essentially due to it articulated design that makes it pretty stiff.
It had a few high speed derailments, and all of them only resulted in minor injuries and no casualties. It even holds the fastest derailment record at 294 km/h (182 mph), and only one person got a minor injury.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TGV_accidents
 
2007-04-03 01:36:47 PM
Barricaded Gunman

Chaim Witz, I withdraw my criticism.

I KNEW YOU WERE FRENCH!!!
 
2007-04-03 01:39:29 PM
imfallen_angel: the racist asses

I'm looking, but having trouble finding any statistics, but France isn't the bastion of racial harmony that you apparently think it is.
 
2007-04-03 01:40:10 PM
danlpoon-France also has the 6th largest economy in the world and is the worlds most popular tourist destination

Hmmm. Thought California had the Sixth largest economy in the world. Will have to do some digging to verify that.
 
2007-04-03 01:41:09 PM
Wan't this thread about railroads or something? I forget.
 
2007-04-03 01:44:09 PM
rantmeister

I was under the impression that California wasn't (yet) a country :)

Quick google gave me this

I have no idea how accurate that is. But it says France is 5th.
 
2007-04-03 01:44:52 PM
drucee

Can you believe that in 2007 we're still having debates over whether evolution should be taught in schools?

Uh-huh, and every time we have such a debate, which side either loses and/or turns their whole state into a laughing stock for the rest of the nation?

That as we speak, Fox News is convincing millions of Americans that Barack Obama is unfit to be President based solely on his middle name?

Are you basing that on their viewership? And if so, are you taking into account that a good percentage of those millions are people on the left who are doing research to keep up with the latest message in the right-wing echo chamber?

That 41 million Americans still have no health insurance?

And it wasn't all that long ago that people wouldn't even give that fact a second thought. But now we're starting to take notice, and health-care is becoming a MAJOR issue, now isn't it?

That same-sex couples still don't have the right to get married?

20 years ago, do you think people would even CONSIDER giving same-sex couples marriage rights? But NOW we're starting to think "Well, maybe", now aren't we?

That automatic weapons are still easier to acquire than beer?

I agree, beer and cigarettes SHOULD be easier to acquire. But that's the fault of extreme "nanny-state" leftists.

What, can't I lean to the right on SOME things?

That our federal government continues to spend billions of dollars hauling away innocent people who just wanted to smoke some wacky weed?

Most people in our generation, the twenty and thirty-somethings, don't give a CRAP about marijuana use. And slowly but surely, our time is coming. The boomers can't live forever. In 50 years, you're going to see a MUCH looser drug policy in America.

That the pointless war in you-know-where is STILL going on?

And the longer it goes on, the harsher history will treat those who perpetrated it. And it's slowly coming unraveled, isn't it? The House and Congress have painted Bush into a corner, and they've done it with %78 of the nation backing it up.

That the political dialogue in this country is pushed so far to the right that what seems like fair socialism everywhere else in the world is laughed out of the debate?

Ever hear of a silent majority? The silent majority of Americans are moderately liberal. Don't believe me?

Gay marriage, socialized medicine, medical marijuana;
20 years ago, no one would even DARE mention any of these in the halls of Government. But now they're matters of SERIOUS DEBATE.

Are we not quite as advanced and progressive as, say, the Netherlands? Of course not. But you've got to remember, some of those nations have been around since before the time of Christ. America, conversely, has been around since 1776, just over 200 years ago.

Thousands to hundreds. Big difference.

Don't let the wingnuts on either side scare you, dude. Despite what the far left says, they have a GREAT amount of say so in the direction our nation is taking and is in no danger of being overwhelmed. And depite what the far right says, they're WAY out of the loop of mainstream America's mindset, they just try to make up for it by making enough noise to pass for it.

We're living in pretty sh*tty times, no doubt... But they're better than they used to be. And they WILL be better than they are today.
 
2007-04-03 01:49:15 PM
Barricaded Gunman

Unless you personally stormed the beach at Normandy, I think it's time to stop milking that particular goat. And "cheap uneducated shots" is far too large a card for you to play.

My grandfather entered Normany on D-Day +3. He was 21 years old. He was injured in the Battle of the Bulge and knocked out of the war. He is now 83 years old. He still has nightmares about the war. He still feels guilty that he lived, while many of his friends died.

I will never forget the sacrifice that he made and I am doing everything I can to make sure my kids remember his sacrifice. Too bad the French don't have that kind of gratitude.

If the USA hadn't brought the fight to the Western Front, Russia would have collapsed. Britain would have collapsed. We gave all of Europe their freedom. It's a shame that France is so eager to forget.
 
2007-04-03 01:51:17 PM
Did France ever get the money Saddam owed them? Because if not, I think it may be too late.
 
2007-04-03 01:53:51 PM
Oh I get it! Because France surrendered in a war 60+ years ago, it's cool to use it as a joke!

Good thing the USA hasn't had any military failures more recently than that!
 
2007-04-03 01:55:11 PM
I am an American, not French. I never criticised Americans who fought in the wars, but rather the ones who continue to berate the French and other Europeans (Russia included) for being anti-war or apt to surrender or whatever nonsense passes for "we strong! You pussy!" 3rd grade talk. Europeans (and Asians) have seen and experienced more war than any American could ever fit troop magnets on their SUVs. Not the kind of war you send troops off to some battlefield that 60% of your citizens couldn't even find on a map, but a war fought in your hometown, that destroys the school you attended while a child, that destroys entire generations.

I am not a troll. Merely calling war and those who promote it the devils they truly are.
 
2007-04-03 01:56:52 PM
THX-

The point is that France, except under the leadership of a non-Frenchman, has no military successes to speak of. They make the Italians look tough.

/can't wait to see how far back we have to go, 1066?
 
2007-04-03 01:58:10 PM
Chaim Witz

My great-grandfather was at the Battle of the Somme and lived to tell about it. An Aussie digger in a war involving European interests only. My father still has his medals.

The French do have gratitude... something like this statement perhaps...
 
2007-04-03 01:59:46 PM
Smarshmallow: I'm looking, but having trouble finding any statistics, but France isn't the bastion of racial harmony that you apparently think it is.

Don't limit yourself to France... that's the problem... sorry but the countries that I've been in, or dealt with people from, only the americans had a true racist attitude.

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2007-04-03 01:59:54 PM
cutlip98

Maybe we DO need to "fight them over here", maybe then we'd stop romanticizing war so much and not be so trigger-happy.
 
2007-04-03 02:02:13 PM
I'm not a "France Hater," but that was the funniest headline I've read in a long time.
Nicely done.
 
2007-04-03 02:02:47 PM
imfallen_angel
sorry but the countries that I've been in, or dealt with people from, only the americans had a true racist attitude.

Then obviously you've never been to Japan. You wanna talk about a xenophobic, misogynistic culture? Barbara Boxer would have a shiznit-fit!
 
2007-04-03 02:03:37 PM
nopokerface: France, except under the leadership of a non-Frenchman, has no military successes to speak of.

Napoleon had no military successes? That's something I did not know.
 
2007-04-03 02:05:25 PM
imfallen_angel
Don't limit yourself to France... that's the problem... sorry but the countries that I've been in, or dealt with people from, only the americans had a true racist attitude.


Without knowing where you are from or which countries you have visited, it makes it hard to argue with. But I expect you realize that.
 
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