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(Globe and Mail)   Radical Native American groups removed from terror report to avoid offending anyone   (theglobeandmail.com) divider line 386
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2007-04-02 11:03:15 AM  
Wouldn't they be Native Canadians?
 
2007-04-02 11:10:32 AM  
bake420: Wouldn't they be Native Canadians?

I believe the term is `First nation' (this week).
 
2007-04-02 11:12:09 AM  
Indigenown3d!

/got nothing
 
2007-04-02 11:13:59 AM  
bake420: Wouldn't they be Native Canadians?

In case you forgot, our whole continent is named North America.
 
2007-04-02 11:18:06 AM  
i27.photobucket.com
 
2007-04-02 11:18:09 AM  
I don't care if they are on the list I just want to make sure we get the blankets back, I don't want the smallpox.
 
2007-04-02 11:19:19 AM  
fred_chan: In case you forgot, our whole continent is named North America.

i am happy to see humor is lost on you
 
2007-04-02 11:24:17 AM  
Well what are they going to do, throw beaver pelts at tall buildings?

/kidding
//proudly part N.A.
//don't scalp me
 
2007-04-02 11:32:01 AM  
img207.imageshack.us

Magua starts feeling a bit more peckish...
 
2007-04-02 11:33:10 AM  
You can bet they're still mentioned in the classified version of the manual. Threats don't just go away because people get offended when they're pointed out.
 
2007-04-02 11:58:27 AM  
I will terrorize no more, forever.
 
2007-04-02 12:29:24 PM  
fred_chan: In case you forgot, our whole continent is named North America.

Yes, and much as the People's Republic of China is commonly referred to simply as "China" for short, The United States of America is commonly referred to simply as "America".

Deal with it.

Also, in case you forgot, anyone born here is a native, making everyone born here "native American".
 
2007-04-02 12:42:26 PM  
"The rise of radical Native American organizations, such as the Mohawk Warrior Society, can be viewed as insurgencies with specific and limited aims. Although they do not seek complete control of the federal government, they do seek particular political concessions in their relationship with national governments and control (either overt or covert) of political affairs at a local/reserve ("First Nation") level, through the threat of, or use of, violence."

Might want to include ELF and ALF in those domestic terrorist organizations lists along with the first nation idiots.
 
2007-04-02 01:02:50 PM  
Weaver95: "first nation idiots"

Sorry, Im must have missed it, why are First Nation people idiots?
 
2007-04-02 01:33:48 PM  
Haydonimo: Sorry, Im must have missed it, why are First Nation people idiots?

Because they claim to be the first?
 
2007-04-02 01:34:11 PM  
Weaver95: Might want to include

Operation Rescue.

/FTFY
 
2007-04-02 01:34:23 PM  
Yeah, wake me up when they get their magic back and take over a silo.
 
2007-04-02 01:34:56 PM  
www.politicaldogs.org
 
2007-04-02 01:38:44 PM  
Don't worry, arrows don't pierce Kevlar.

/You weren't the "first". In modern times, you're probably the last.
 
TSE
2007-04-02 01:39:31 PM  
Don't agree with the current administration of whatever country you live in? You're a terrorist/insurgent!
 
2007-04-02 01:39:40 PM  
Where's F Troop when ya need 'em?
 
2007-04-02 01:39:54 PM  
Might want to include ELF and ALF in those domestic terrorist organizations lists

ELF I can see, 'cuz they blow things up. But all Alf does is eat cats and make stupid jokes.
 
2007-04-02 01:40:24 PM  
untrustworthy: Because they claim to be the first?

But they were the first. That's why they are the Onkwehonwe or Anishnawbe, the original people of the American continent.
 
2007-04-02 01:40:42 PM  
are we sure they don't use litebrites?
 
2007-04-02 01:41:20 PM  
What do you mean by 'first'. Did they recieve the Old testament ?
 
2007-04-02 01:43:21 PM  
How are they going to sue the guys that actually started melting the glaciers in the first place.
 
2007-04-02 01:44:20 PM  
ELF was FBI's top most wanted domestic group for a long time. ALF are okay, though still at the extreme and often "criminal" end of things. Course I'm also at the extreme end of things. ELF, though, does little but burn yuppie condo's. Ugh.

Yes, weaver, you've met someone who has some support. College'll do that to you, as will the punk scene.
 
2007-04-02 01:44:51 PM  
Haydonimo: But they were the first.

That's pretty debatable. There's a lot of evidence indicating that Europeans came over before the ancestors of modern Indians migrated to the Americas.
 
2007-04-02 01:45:17 PM  
This is the LAST group you'd think there'd be a slew of racism against, but these laws (and the thread) seem to prove me wrong.
 
2007-04-02 01:45:36 PM  
Clarification: No, for drunk farkers, I DO oppose the ELF for political, ethical, and strategic reasons.
 
2007-04-02 01:45:38 PM  
with how many indians there are left, what are we talking about here, like 5 people total?
 
2007-04-02 01:48:10 PM  
untrustworthy: There's a lot of evidence indicating that Europeans came over before the ancestors of modern Indians migrated to the Americas.

humans developed on two separate land masses at the same time?
 
2007-04-02 01:48:35 PM  
B-b-b-but Tecumseh
 
2007-04-02 01:49:54 PM  
As a native American (S. Carolina several decades ago), I want in to the club.

Am I any less native because my family came over here in the mid-1600s?
 
2007-04-02 01:50:21 PM  
untrustworhty: That's pretty debatable. There's a lot of evidence indicating that Europeans came over before the ancestors of modern Indians migrated to the Americas.

Really, can you elaborate on some of this so called evidence?

UlimaCS This is the LAST group you'd think there'd be a slew of racism against, but these laws (and the thread) seem to prove me wrong.

This must be your first Native American thread.

Sir Charles with how many indians there are left, what are we talking about here, like 5 people total?

In Canada its 3.2 million and the fastest growing population.
 
2007-04-02 01:50:55 PM  
bake420: humans developed on two separate land masses at the same time?

Humans came from Africa and branched out in different directions. And there is considerable debate about how many different groups migrated out of Africa.
 
2007-04-02 01:50:55 PM  
40oz_A_Knight: Don't worry, arrows don't pierce Kevlar

I was always under the impression that Kevlar offers little protection against "stabbing" attacks.
 
2007-04-02 01:52:23 PM  
untrustworthy: That's pretty debatable. There's a lot of evidence indicating that Europeans came over before the ancestors of modern Indians migrated to the Americas

Such as? I've never seen/heard anybody claim that before.
 
2007-04-02 01:52:28 PM  
manimal347: ELF, though, does little but burn yuppie condo's. Ugh.

Isn't that bad?
 
2007-04-02 01:52:52 PM  
Haydonimo

Sorry, Im must have missed it, why are First Nation people idiots?

While I'm generally the last person to defend Weaver95, I think you're reading a bit too much into that. My interpretation wasn't that he was calling all First Nations people idiots, but rather that he was calling those who belong to what could conceivably be classified as "terrorist organisations" idiots.
 
2007-04-02 01:53:23 PM  
Haydonimo: Really, can you elaborate on some of this so called evidence?

Look at Kennewick Man, for starters.
 
2007-04-02 01:54:43 PM  
oldfarthenry: I believe the term is `First nation' (this week).

Nope, because they can't prove that there weren't nations here BEFORE them who were wiped out, so that term could be inaccurate.

/ Actually heard that from a school teacher
// Can't tell you what the new term is
 
2007-04-02 01:55:47 PM  
Don't forget the Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA), the group that kidnapped heiress Patricia Hearst.
 
2007-04-02 01:55:52 PM  
Since when is the Kennewick man of European descent?
 
2007-04-02 01:57:32 PM  
untrustworthy [TotalFark]

Haydonimo: Really, can you elaborate on some of this so called evidence?

Look at Kennewick Man, for starters


Yeah but Captain Picard traveled back in time to America, 7,000BC from the 24th century.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2007-04-02 01:57:43 PM  
Kennewick man lived nearly 10,000 years ago. Indigenous people on the American continent have been around for more than 40,000 years. Close though.
 
2007-04-02 01:57:56 PM  
ArcadianRefugee
I was always under the impression that Kevlar offers little protection against "stabbing" attacks.

Yeah I'm just trying to rouse some ire among the people in this thread screaming racism, figured arrows were a good stereotype.
 
2007-04-02 01:58:52 PM  
king_mob: Such as? I've never seen/heard anybody claim that before.

There is DNA evidence as well as similarities in tool making between Europeans that contrast that of the later migrants from Asia.
 
2007-04-02 01:59:27 PM  
If you are in North America to begin with you can't be on the terrorist list. They forgot those Texans who wanted to use serin gas on malls and subways for instance and had the stuff to do it.
 
2007-04-02 02:00:15 PM  
ArcadianRefugee

Also, in case you forgot, anyone born here is a native, making everyone born here "native American".

Yes, and much as The United States of America is commonly referred to simply as "America", direct descendants from indigenous tribes who were here before the conquest are commonly referred as "natives" and post conquest people don't.

Deal with it.
 
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