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(BBC)   Exposure to dirt may boost the immune system, UK scientists say. Submitter hoping to be prescribed front-row seats to first NHS mud-wrestling event   ( divider line
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2007-04-02 10:53:42 AM  
National Honor Society?
2007-04-02 10:57:23 AM  
I could have told them this. No massive outbreak of asthma when I was a kid eating soil in the 70s.
2007-04-02 11:07:31 AM

Mud, mud, glorious mud,
Nothing quite like it for cooling the blood.
So follow me, follow,
Down to the hollow,
And there let us wallow in glorious mud. &
2007-04-02 11:21:55 AM  

It's always so fun to watch these people going around washing everything with anti-bacterial hoopajoop. They always end up sick from October to April.

I Lysol my garbage cans and that's about it. Everything else gets washed like I'm a normal person.
2007-04-02 11:27:20 AM  
I'm guessing subby means NIH, yes? Or is the NHS some non-US agency?

I'm pretty sure an "NHS" mud-wrestling event would be jailbait city. At least it was when I was in high school.
2007-04-02 11:38:39 AM  
I'm guessing subby means NIH, yes? Or is the NHS some non-US agency?

From the headline: Exposure to dirt may boost the immune system, UK scientists say

Reading comprehension. Look at the context. Things do exist outside of the US too.

National Health Service.

You live and learn.
2007-04-02 11:38:56 AM  

Preach it.
2007-04-02 11:45:45 AM
Jack Sparrow is immune to everything.

/I got a jar of diiiiiiirt! I got a jar of diiiiiiirt!
2007-04-02 11:47:13 AM  
Glasgowsfinest beat me to it.

NHS is the socialized medicine system that everyone laughs at when ambulances don't get somewhere on time or some dumb shiat.
2007-04-02 11:50:14 AM  

No need to be snippy about it.
2007-04-02 12:04:55 PM  
No need to be snippy about it.

Heh. Oh aye there is. This is Fark - load up on snark!

/I apologise, my friend.
2007-04-02 01:20:59 PM  
Never apologize, it shows weakness.

/if that's not an American statement, I don't know what is
2007-04-02 01:46:03 PM  
soze: I Lysol my garbage cans and that's about it.

I Lysol anything that comes in contact with raw meat.

Sink, countertop, toilets...
2007-04-02 01:55:28 PM  
Soze: hoopajoop

Sure thing Dr. Suess
2007-04-02 01:55:57 PM  
Exposure to immunity has boosted my dirt system.
2007-04-02 01:57:44 PM

Always chooses the dirt road!
2007-04-02 01:59:54 PM  
christina aguilera for the nobel prize in medicine
2007-04-02 02:00:43 PM  
soze: I Lysol my garbage cans and that's about it.

I Lysol anything that comes in contact with raw meat.

Hell, I eat raw meat. I leave food out on purpose to let the flora multiply. I think of it as training my immune system. Be tough to find someone more healthy than I.

"He's been trained to eat things that would make a billy goat puke!"
2007-04-02 02:01:22 PM  
Umm, yeah. This is very true. But what happens when my son is born asthmatic? Throw my one-month old in the dirt? Prolly not.

I'm certainly not saying "No dirt, no need," as a matter of fact, I spent a good portion of my waking childhood hours playing in a giant mudhole in our backyard. And I am also coincidentally healthy as ever (people around me have gotten totally sick 3 and 4 times since the last time I had a cold - I have not had to lock myself up to stay well)

But as my son was born breathing funny, should anyone have told me to find a mudhole? Again, I say probably not.

/Am dirty as I write this
//Will probably stay dirty for the remainder of the week day
2007-04-02 02:09:01 PM  
Hyperbolic Hyperbole

/Am dirty as I write this

2007-04-02 02:13:59 PM  
As a recovering germaphobe-I'd say people who are nuts about always antibacterial-izing(?) everything get sick more often than the people that aren't so crazy about it.

/Although I would like to see the bruise on the face of the person who tried to get me to play in the dirt, just to boost my immunity system.
//I'll stick with the cold, thanks.
2007-04-02 02:14:25 PM  
Hyperbolic Hyperbole, no one is saying you should drop your kid in a pig sty; some people are born with congenital conditions that have nothing to do with over-vigilance against germs, and that blows.

But you said yourself that you played in a mudhole when you were a kid, and that you're "coincidentally" healthy as ever. I'd say it's not so much a coincidence.

(Do kids even have sandboxes anymore? Now THAT'S a test for the ol' immune system...)
2007-04-02 02:14:35 PM  
Jesus, I'm not saying "don't wash your dishes". I clean my kitchen, toss my cutting boards and stuff in the dishwasher, I just don't go OMG VIOLENT CHEMICAL DEATH every three days or whatever like I've seen some people do.

This is not a Wife Swap-style haven of salmonella. Yick.
2007-04-02 02:15:01 PM  
I drank creek water as a child. I have no allergies. Not even Poison ivy/oak/sumac. Seriously, before everything was getting santizied sterile in the home environment, food allergies weren't as common.
2007-04-02 02:19:48 PM  
(Do kids even have sandboxes anymore? Now THAT'S a test for the ol' immune system...)

Depends on how many cats are allowed to crap in said sand box. I grew up on a farm and we had a sand box made out of a tractor tire. We'd just garden rake the largest clumps out of it and get to playin'. Good times.
2007-04-02 02:27:37 PM  
God made dirt, dirt don't hurt.

/And hell, I am not even religious!
//But stick by it!
2007-04-02 02:28:22 PM  
I heard that when you walk, it compacts the Earth, which is harmful. At least Dr. Todd Bruman explained. I've been skiddering ever since.
2007-04-02 02:29:01 PM  
Needs an obvious tag.

I can't get my kids to wash their hands before dinner. They're gonna live forever!
2007-04-02 02:39:35 PM  
Exposure to dirt may boost the immune system

Must be why so many kids make it through childhood.
2007-04-02 02:45:33 PM  
Should make it the 10-second rule then?
2007-04-02 02:46:00 PM  
Technology provides the means to remove ourselves from nature and natural selection. We then use technology to find out why we're getting feeble. We find out it's because there's too much technology and not enough nature.
2007-04-02 02:48:22 PM  
DayeOfJustice: Should make it the 10-second rule then?

Now it will be the 10-second law.
2007-04-02 02:54:15 PM  
That's fine, but what progress has UK made in getting a new basketball coach. Wait, it's not that UK is it?
2007-04-02 02:54:26 PM  
Lysol and all of these modern "sanitary" products are for wussies. We are all covered in germs. Billions and billions of them. Accept it and move on.

(Note: the use of Lysol is permitted if one is trying to eradicate odors but at that point your best bet is to scrub the item in question properly with soap, water, etc.)
2007-04-02 02:56:08 PM  
There weren't any massive 'peanut allergies' when I was a kid, or increasing numbers of asthma or even autism. We played in the dirt, climbed trees, ate berries we probably shouldn't have, didn't sit in the house playing video games breathing the same stale air and rarely, if ever, ate fast food. Kids are too sheltered these days by hypochondriac over-protective parents. I make my kids play outside, ride their bikes,limit their video games, and get angry because they can't eat a peanut butter sandwich in public.
2007-04-02 02:56:49 PM  
i am living proof of this.

/filthy bastard
//i never get sick
2007-04-02 03:01:51 PM  
That reminds me, stock car racin' season is starting at the 3/8 mile dirt oval in a couple of weeks. The cars throw enough dirt in the stands to ward off any infections

/Time to take my medicine
2007-04-02 03:13:22 PM  
You want to give your immune system a workout? Go teach in a middle or primary school.
My mother taught for 6th grade for about 15 years, and she has the immune system of a junk-yard dog. A germ that gives her the sniffles could depopulate an English country village.
2007-04-02 03:23:40 PM  
People freak out about germs too much. There aren't too many bacteria that could survive long on a bar of soap (alkaline environment, dries out between uses, etc.), but I've seen folks recoil because I don't have dispensers with antibacterial liquid detergent.

Here's an eye-opener for you: families on dairy farms drink unpasteurised milk all the time. They don't buy it back after it's been processed, they just dip a jug from the cooling tank before it leaves.

/Grandma used to say, you've got to eat a peck of dirt before you die
2007-04-02 03:42:43 PM  
Yeah, this uhm... seems pretty old news. I'm glad there's a new study confirming it but hell, people listen to advertisements more than they do scientific studies.

Lysol is cute and popular and I need to have the newest "kills 99% of germs!" in every room? Oh sweet, I'll pick some up on my next grocery store run.


/waiting on the next super-bug, sadly it's bound to be something simple like a weird variation of the flu
2007-04-02 04:03:01 PM  
what no tag?
2007-04-02 04:14:49 PM  
My bacteriology class did a study on the efficacy of anti-bacterial soaps. They did no better than regular old soap.

And after repeated exposure to dilute solutions of three anti-bacterials, we managed to breed resistant strains of several common bacteria.

They were no match for straight Clorox, though.
2007-04-02 04:36:25 PM  
"Kills 99.9% of germs on contact"

Which just means that the surviving 0.1% are tough little bastards and now have no competition for space or food. Way to go!

I've long held the opinion that being too clean is just depriving your immune system of proper exercise. I grew up playing in the dirt, mud, creeks, drainage ditches name it. Aside from some pet allergies that developed later in life, I'm pretty dang healthy.
2007-04-02 05:05:08 PM  
It drives me batty when I see a parent spraying anti-bacterial shiat on a kid's hands.

I had a cousin staying with me for a couple of months recently, and after going to the supermarket he told me the reason he didn't get soap for the bathroom was he couldn't match the "poncey" soap I had.

That "poncey" soap was just the cheapest liquid soap I could find that wasn't anti-bacterial and didn't have moisturiser (because I use it to clean my specs too).
2007-04-02 05:32:48 PM  
Yeah... old news.

I just had a baby, and it annoys me to all hell how many people tell me I need to stock up on hand sanitizer, and be bleaching/sterilizing everything. It's not going to kill him if I wash off his pacifier instead of boiling it for ten minutes every day (although I'm sure there are people who think CPS should be called on me for being 'negligent'.)

When my son's older, he'll be sent out to play in the gods-freaking-damned mud like I did instead of sitting in front of a farking TV playing video games. I'd rather see him occasionally filthy and healthy, than sick and fat from always being in a sanitized environment.

/Bit of a hippie mom
//Has asthma, but not from super-sanitized childhood, it's congenital.
2007-04-02 06:56:01 PM  
give me donuts: You want to give your immune system a workout? Go teach in a middle or primary school.

True, True... I've been working at a school for 15 years and I very rarely get sick. When we get a new teacher, they'll usually be sick as a dog for the first year or two and then that's it. Never sick again. I don't work with the kids much but I work on the computers and use the keyboards and mice after they've had their grubby little hands all over them.
2007-04-02 06:59:33 PM  

I love you.
2007-04-02 07:14:57 PM  
Although not a scientist, my dad used to say the same thing. Makes sense I guess. I turned out OK.

2007-04-02 07:20:56 PM  
National Geographic had an amusing article last year on this very topic. The conclusion was that if you want your child to be healthy, one option was to keep a pig in your living room. That part was hyperbole, but they did report that children reared on farms who were around germy livestock from day one tend to have the healthiest immune systems.

And the healthiest (and most well-informed) sex lives too, I would think.
2007-04-02 09:04:11 PM  
Hey FarkinHostile I'll take you up on that immune system test. If not compete, then join immune system has to be as strong as an ox. (I did try raw pork once and that gave me some nausea, so I've kind of avoided that. But everything else is fair game.)

Did you know that eating boogers is supposed to help boost the immune system? Read about this awhile ago and it's bizarre, whether or not it's true, who knows. No clicky-pop if the link even works, no HTML skillz
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