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(Yahoo)   Swimmer Michael Phelps wins 7th gold medal at the world championships and sets his 5th world record. How long before he gets busted for performance-enhancing drugs?   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 21
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2007-04-01 01:48:03 PM
You know, swimming is one of the few sports that hasn't been tainted by a steroid controversey.

I'm sure it's as filthy as all other sports, but for whatever reason, they aren't getting caught. Hmph.
 
2007-04-01 01:50:40 PM
It's because they pee in the pool and not in a cup.
 
2007-04-01 01:55:36 PM
And five minutes after typing that, I ran across this article over on the BBC.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/swimming/6515221.stm

I can admit when I'm wrong.
 
2007-04-01 01:56:21 PM
is fark taking you to the wrong thread pages on purpose? its really confusing me
 
2007-04-01 01:57:19 PM
I blame the drug testing Nazis.
 
2007-04-01 01:59:26 PM
The only thing Phelps is testing positive for is alcohol.
/played him in beer pong
//he won
 
2007-04-01 02:14:25 PM
Oh, swimming is a plenty scandalous sport. But not because of steroids.

Having grown up a swimmer, I can tell you that USS tests competitors for performance enhancing drugs constantly, not only during major events but also at random times in between. I've seen a few top swimmers go down for it, but mostly I've seen the intense testing policy keep most of the top swimmers honest and clean. About the worst I can remember from personal experience was a member of the US national team freaking out because she had smoked pot at a party a few days before a random drug test. And marijuana *will* get you in serious trouble with USSwimming (anybody remember Gary Hall?), but it's hardly a performance enhancing drug. This is probably why there's the illusion that swimmers don't dope. Some of them do, they just get caught long before they reach the international level.

Most of the substance abuse in the swimming community concerns drugs that are not considered performance enhancers--like alcohol and marijuana. The abuse is not to help them get a leg up on opponents, but to help them cope with the intense training schedule and high-pressure lifestyle of a competitive swimmer. These self-sabotaging drugs are the real problem in swimming.

Having grown up with Michael's older sister Whitney, I can attest to the integrity of the Phelps family, and I was a little bit offended by this headline. (Yeah, yeah. Then I remembered this is Fark.) Michael trains way too hard to risk it all by doping. And anyway, the fact is he doesn't need to.

As a somewhat related aside, I quit swimming right around the time that Michael started beating me on a regular basis... in everything. I can't think of a single sports figure for whom I have more respect as an athlete and as a person. It's good to see such a nice guy continuing to dominate the sport.
 
2007-04-01 02:37:27 PM
It sucks that golf, such a lame sport, is so popular, because all these headlines about dominating athelets should really abe about people like Phelps or Roger Federer. They dominate by a whole magnitude harder than Woods does.
 
2007-04-01 02:39:59 PM
Although Federer is getting killed by this Canas farker recently. Perhaps the performance enhancers Canas got banned for did him well.

Or maybe Canas is the designated person for the year Federer has decided to lose to.
 
2007-04-01 03:12:59 PM
Phelps?! On drugs? I'm pretty certain that he was clean in the Olympics- did you SEE those interviews? He IS a freakin' kid!
 
2007-04-01 03:53:11 PM
I don't think anyone can be successful at the top levels of sport without some sort of juicing.
 
2007-04-01 04:01:37 PM
Sir Cumference the Flatulent: I don't think anyone can be successful at the top levels of sport without some sort of juicing.

Carl Lewis and Michael Johnson raise an eyebrow and go "Say what?".
 
2007-04-01 04:36:20 PM
How long before he gets busted for performance-enhancing drugs?
Doesn't matter, I'm taking the under.
 
2007-04-01 04:41:40 PM
I say they should have an all steroid league for reevalution of Manichaeanism and every sport. That's what I'd be watching.
 
2007-04-01 04:42:36 PM
damn Fark pranksters
 
2007-04-01 07:49:55 PM
Most of these world records are going down because of these uber-fast full body swimsuits they've just started wearing 6-ish years ago and pools are being designed to be much, much faster than before. (Yes, it matters. If you eliminate as much of the waves as possible that bounce off the sides of the pool, the faster everyone goes.)
 
2007-04-02 12:02:58 AM
Da Procrastinator: Most of these world records are going down because of these uber-fast full body swimsuits they've just started wearing 6-ish years ago and pools are being designed to be much, much faster than before.

The body suits have been around for well over a decade, and really they're not a huge factor. You're talking about hundredths of a second on the suits. Yes, it makes a difference, but Phelps' dominance in most of these events is by several tenths. And as for the pools, well, everyone swims in the same water, now. He's the best in the world right now to be sure, and I don't think anyone would really dispute that he's the best the world has ever seen.

I think the big question now is what does Phelps do after the olympics next year. This will be his third olympic games, he hasn't lost a major race in any of his strong events in a long time.... and he'll only be 23! In 2012, he'll be 27, not old at all for a guy. But, my goodness, the daily stresses and pressures--physical, mental, and emotional--that he's maintaining at his level of training have got to start taking a toll. From personal experience... well, I never made the Olympics, but after a few years on the National team, a career-ending injury was as much a relief as it was a disappointment. I didn't realize until then that all I wanted was a vacation. So, does Michael go out on top? Or try to do the impossible?
 
2007-04-02 08:47:48 AM
Phelps is flat out amazing - i swan against him in the 200 IM at NBAC back in the summer of '97. What people don't know, is that he was whooping up on guys 4 years older than him way before he even got his Trial's cut.

I raise a fist to Phelps - swimming is a true sport, and he is truly ridiculous.
 
2007-04-02 10:36:58 AM
Cymbals of the Illiterati, your well-informed posts have no place here on teh inter-webs. Be gone with you!

/But seriously, thanks for that.
 
2007-04-02 11:51:08 AM
WhyteRaven74: Carl Lewis and Michael Johnson raise an eyebrow and go "Say what?"

Carl Lewis was juiced throughout the 80s, the US OC quietly buried the evidence for several years until everything came down in the late 90s.

Ben Johnson was just faster.
 
2007-04-02 12:20:32 PM
I was a training partner of his for several years in Baltimore and again in Michigan. He has been subject to more drug testing than any swimmer in history other than Thorpe, but he will soon surpass him there as well. They'd just show up at the pool unannounced or at his room in CO Springs when we were out there training. His is as good because of 3 reasons (its more than this, but basically, this is what it boils down to):
1. Natural ability
2. He works harder than ANYONE IN THE WORLD, maybe anyone in history.
3. His coach is as big a freak of nature as he is.

Thats pretty much the quick answer, but I couldn't believe it took until he was done to get a nod on Fark. He just made history. Regardless of what you think of swimming, what he just did was mind blowing.

PS - smoking pot will only get you busted in competition now, thanks to Gary Hall, Jr. They no longer test for street drugs unless you are at a meet.
 
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