Arg! What've you done to me!? I'm taking a FARK thread seriously!


Damn past experiences watching people die draining me of my humor.

/me gets out of thread
//

theorellior: It's a very serious subject.

Someone post Serious Cat.

elchip: the Bible isn't really that much of a rule book

Ahem, the New Testament.

jingks

The difference is we are both using definition 1. Definition one has two qualifiers. He is only using one of them and saying it meets the definition.

Not quite the way you paraphrased it.

I don't think a lot of people understand the sensation debate.


1. Uncircumcised is more sensitive.
2. Circumcised is less sensitive.

This doesn't mean it IS or IS NOT sensitive, but it is a variance around a general standard. However, uncut guys have much more control in 'using' that sensitivity. The result is that I can go for a long time if I want to, or I can slightly switch positions and finish on queue.

I usually make it so my wife finishes (well starts finishing) 1-2 seconds before I do. Lots of fun.


2007-03-28 02:49:06 PM Tatsuma [TotalFark]

hyzer: Did anyone else notice a complete lack of information about WHY circumcision would stop the spread of HIV?

What? I've heard why. It's because the skin that's being cut is very "porous" and will get more easily infected. No such skin, it's thus "harder"

Sleep with a women who has aids without a condom, circumcized or not, and you're pretty much screwed. Being circumcized might help a little, but I wouldn't try it myself. Hell, wouldn't try with a condom on either


Here is my problem with that. You are telling a group of people who don't have proper sex education that circumcision can reduce the risk of contracting HIV. It sounds good, but in the end I'm afraid it will get interpreted to "Don't worry, I'm cut".

I'd much rather them distribute condoms and teach the horrors of syphilis.

OMG hasn't this gone on enough????????

Just one question--did circumcision of babies or young men ANYWHERE originate as a widespread practice APART from it being a part of the ritualistic appeasement of some deity...I mean has any culture sat down and said, Hey this looks cool, lets chop up our wilies, or The Village Council has determined that are definite health benefits to chopping up your chopper.?

The widespread practice in the US of course derives from the original Israelite practice and doesn't count toward the above....I might even suggest the strong Jewish influence in the medical profession as being the primary reason...

I just cannot overstate how much I love a good circumcision thread.

Because all the UNCUT people call us CUT folks mutilated, we need a word for UNCUT people.

How about "Depends", sort of like the adult diaper only made of skin.

Or maybe Gladlock. Or Bedpan.

Something that gets the point across that an uncircumcised penis is much like a piece of plastic wrap over spoiled meat.

elchip:

See what did I tell you.. being cut makes me slow to climax

PinkoLeftist: Yet, what was the Victorian era reasoning for nipping the tip? Christians said it prevented teh evil masturbation!!

This is something I've never understood. I've read the scripture that supposedly prohibits jacking off and to be honest I just don't see it.

I don't have it right in front of me but IIRC its the one where the guy dies and his brother is expected to sex the dead guy's wife so that his line will continue. But then the brother pulls out early on purpose and cums on the floor. To me this says "Don't be an ass and deny your brother heirs!" but for some reason the church interprets it as "Never have an orgasm unless its in a hoo-hah!"

/Thread jack over.

Kempnerius

If you had scrolled up but a tad bit, dearie, you would see I already have to soemone else asking proof.


http://www.circumcision.org/studies.htm

There's really nothing to fight about,
/the Africans should get cut
//Cut westerners get a lot of stuff done
///redundancy is a direct effect of being born to bone
////Balance returns to the universe

To my uncirced brothers leave the circs alone, we need them!

TheGreyPiper: Just one question--did circumcision of babies or young men ANYWHERE originate as a widespread practice APART from it being a part of the ritualistic appeasement of some deity...I mean has any culture sat down and said, Hey this looks cool, lets chop up our wilies, or The Village Council has determined that are definite health benefits to chopping up your chopper.?

Apart? Not that I'm aware of. It's widely practiced in the U.S. and South Korea for non-religious reasons, but granted the U.S. (and SK via the U.S.) had exposure to Jewish law before developing the fad.

TheGreyPiper

OMG hasn't this gone on enough????????

Just one question--did circumcision of babies or young men ANYWHERE originate as a widespread practice APART from it being a part of the ritualistic appeasement of some deity...I mean has any culture sat down and said, Hey this looks cool, lets chop up our wilies, or The Village Council has determined that are definite health benefits to chopping up your chopper.?

The widespread practice in the US of course derives from the original Israelite practice and doesn't count toward the above....I might even suggest the strong Jewish influence in the medical profession as being the primary reason...

Almost any healthy habit gets ascribed to a deity. Why do you think Jews don't die of Trichinosis?

AcadianSidhe

Ah, thank you...sorry about asking for the repost. I came a bit late to the party, and I've skimmed most of the comments in a furious attempt to catch up.

I love it when a study shows that God was right.

/Suck it, heathens

Wait, wait -

UNCUT = Dickrot.

That's it.

Call me mutilated, I'll call you dickrot.

I may be less sensitive, but at leasy I don't have a wang full of sticky dogshiat.

I'm sure the ladies love slurpin funk out of your flaps.

Your penis vagina flaps. Pussy.

IdBeCrazyIf: See what did I tell you.. being cut makes me slow to climax

Yeah, well, I too am ... "cut" (I hate that slang). But I still suffer from premature ej

jst3p

I dont see anything in the definition that relates to voluntary vs. involuntary...

That's my definition. If it's not going to kill you and doesn't affect you negatively, AND you don't get a say whether it's done or not, then it's mutilation in my eyes. If you want to remove your foreskin, get pierced, split your tongue, remove an eye, get tribal burns...that's your decision. If someone does that to you but you didn't want it done, that's mutilation. It's a simple but effective definition.

I_C_Weener: You forgot WWD. (Western Women Disgust)

Only American women, actually.

TheGreyPiper: There's some evidence that circumcision was (and possibly still is) extremely common among tropical primitive peoples. Basically, it's a warm, humid climate, and that really encourages bacterial and fungal growth, even if you are regularly cleaning it.

TheGreyPiper
The widespread practice in the US of course derives from the original Israelite practice and doesn't count toward the above....I might even suggest the strong Jewish influence in the medical profession as being the primary reason...

I would suggest that it has as much to do with the fact that anytime they can charge you for a prodecure it's that much more likely they'll go ahead and add it to the list of shiat they do right after the baby's born. That and the money they make selling foreskins for science research, skin grafts (which there's no shortage of skin for), and (my favorite) cosmetics ingredients. It's a business.

Only American women, actually.

I'm in America. American women are all that matter.

Plus I like chubby chicks, so that's +1 for America.

That's my definition. If it's not going to kill you and doesn't affect you negatively, AND you don't get a say whether it's done or not, then it's mutilation in my eyes. If you want to remove your foreskin, get pierced, split your tongue, remove an eye, get tribal burns...that's your decision. If someone does that to you but you didn't want it done, that's mutilation. It's a simple but effective definition.

OH! We get to just make up definitions now?

Then you are a communist. By MY definition anyone who disagrees with me is a communist!

Screw you!

/by my definition "screw you" means "have a nice day".

2007-03-28 03:37:46 PM ShillinTheVillain

AIDS could LITERALLY be ELIMINATED in ONE generation if EVERYONE used CONDOMS!

Somebody didn't pay attention in health class when they talked about the effectiveness of condoms.

Your above quoted statement could be true if HIV wasn't transmissible in any other fashion. There are plenty of people who obtain HIV via other vectors (infected needle sharing, organ transplant, blood transfusions, just to name a few.)

I'm cut. No girl has ever made any comments on the cut/uncut issue with me.

I can see that the problems with sensitivty might be an issue with some cut folks, but in a lot of cases orgasms are as much mental as physical. There are also many different ways to stimulate your peener, depending on how you individually develop (Every guy really is different in what they like, ladies...just like you)

I can't get off from oral, and I sometimes have mental lapses (focus too much on the partner, and 'lose' orgasms), but I also can get off in a few minutes with the right girl doing the right things.

Everyone's different...

Will I have my son circumcized if I have one? That's a tough decision for any parent. I can't say, honestly. I would lean towards doing it because I've heard nothing but hyper-positive comments on my own look. Don't mess with success??

DaShredda

Don't be a chode. All it takes is a little bit of extra washing. hygiene isn't hard, but it does take some dedication. Female "Circumcision" isn't circumcision. It's cutting off the clit so she doesn't enjoy sex. That's mutilation to me.

/cut
//not any more mutilated than a guy with a tattoo or a girl with earrings.

My cack is an altar of Goddess worship.

/my cack owns joo smegma wand

Hey, I just realized something based on I_C_Weener>'s post:

"Have you had your wisdom teeth pulled?..."

Does it seem ironic that I'm fine with circumcision, but violently against having my wisdom teeth removed? True story: my dentist told me that my wisdom teeth had come in fine, and that there was a very, very minimal chance of them continuing to grow, which (in the unlikely event they did) would case searing pain as the roots hit a nerve in my jaw. He tried for a while to convince me to remove them, but I stubbornly refused.

/food for thought
//You can go about your business. Move along.

Don't be a chode.

What's the point of this thread, then?

Gack! An unclosed bold tag...sorry.

Okay, here's a serious question:

How do we ensure that these circumcisions are performed cleanly and correctly, given the sad state of African medicine in general, and the woeful lack of supplies and sanitation?

Seriously though, watch that Penn & Teller Bullshiat...actually, fark it don't watch it. With every passing day it becomes more and more obvious that the people who are in the know, already know and everybody else is just fuel for the fire. Flame On...

rabbi tuckman?

TheGreyPiper: The widespread practice in the US of course derives from the original Israelite practice and doesn't count toward the above....I might even suggest the strong Jewish influence in the medical profession as being the primary reason...

I thought it was because of Dr. John Kellogg...

jst3p

And you're a troll. See, I can throw names out too.

And the dictionary has "deprive" in the meaning, which means:

to remove or withhold something from the enjoyment or possession of (a person or persons)

Which I take to mean an involuntarily act. If it were voluntary, you wouldn't be deprived. You'd *want* it removed. So whether it's voluntary or not matters...

Most women, including myself, prefer them cut; easier to give head that way.

No wonder women give such bad blow jobs. They're lazy.

Bonehead

I am not a troll, I was pointing out that if everyone used their own personal definitions, language becomes meaningless and discussion impossible.

Communist.

What if someone came along and told you that your wang had to get MORE cut - they didn't snip it enough. Would you do it? Is there any part of your peener that you would be happy to see removed NOW? Lose another inch of skin maybe?

Thanks very much, but I'll be keeping my turtleneck on.

/fap, fap, fap...

Wow, just wow. I never realized that there were so many male farkers obsessed with cock. You guys need to get a grip.

I outsourced to Mexico and she didn't complain...to me.

Yeah, only the real high quality shows feature talking donkeys...

Thorak

elchip: If you bathe yourself for 70 years, that's an entire 6 days you've spent cleaning your foreskin.

I can think of worse ways to spend 6 days.

6 days? Hell, I don't have one and I spend lots more time than that cleaning. . .