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2007-03-28 02:58:42 PM
Smarshmallow

Do you honestly consider yourself mutilated?
 
2007-03-28 02:58:52 PM
Tatsuma

Cripes. I had no idea that FGM was this prevalent. I'd only heard it discussed as something done by a few tribal cultures in Africa.

Thanks for the information.
 
2007-03-28 02:59:16 PM
Tjos Weel: If you havent read the sequel, the "significant muslim character" from Mote is even more significant.

Yeah, I've read it, but it was a few years ago, so I wasn't sure which book he was in. I love Niven, and read anything of his that I can get my hands on. The Motie books were the best though, in my opinion.
 
2007-03-28 02:59:21 PM
fact is, if it was truely important, any uncut guy would remedy the situation as soon as possible.

leave the skin on, it can always be taken off later.
or does that make too much sense?
 
2007-03-28 02:59:52 PM
img159.imageshack.us
my bad on the previous post
 
2007-03-28 03:00:00 PM
FGM - A terrible thing that serves no purpose, and can end in death. Read more on it and you will find that in many areas, it is done in young adulthood, without anaesthesia, and with anything handy (glass from a broken bottle, a piece of metal, maybe even a rock).

Male circumcision - Not as bad, but also unnecessary. The majority of it is involuntary - that's why it's done to babies at the parents behest. Smegma is a natural thing (and not exclusive to guys), serves a purpose, and doesn't indicate that you are "unclean." But it might keep you from getting laid.

/Circumcised.
//Son is not.
 
2007-03-28 03:00:25 PM
How can you tell when a guy is circumcised? I've only slept with my boyfriend and I would feel rude asking him if his is or not.
I really don't want to look up pictures either.
 
2007-03-28 03:00:33 PM
Cythraul: Two things: If you ever want your kid to receive oral sex in his adult life, you better get his peener cut shortly after he's born. Most people I've spoken to on the subject like to stay well away of dealing with an uncut penis, when it comes to that topic.

Ergo the discrepency in numbers of cut v. uncut penii in porn.

Mr. Parker: circumcized or uncircumzied you sleep with someone that has aids your chance of getting it is pretty good.

I believe the study is 60% less without a tip. But, I alwasy tip the hookers. Really on the 60%.

bake420: yeah, not like there's hole in the tip or anything

So, why do you hate science?
 
2007-03-28 03:00:37 PM
plastroncafe: Do you honestly consider yourself mutilated?

Yes. Part of my genitals was removed, making me less sensitive than I would be otherwise, in an area where sensitivity is a relatively large plus. Yes, I'd call it mutilation.
 
2007-03-28 03:00:39 PM
Ok, we've had our cop-bashing thread, the genital mutilation argument thread, now all we need is a "legalize it Maaaaaaaaaan" thread and the holy trinity of HURRRRR will be complete.
 
2007-03-28 03:01:03 PM
Go get cut you cheese-smelling, unclipped savages.
 
2007-03-28 03:01:04 PM
The only way circumsision can prevent AIDS is if the African doctor takes off a bit more than intended:O
 
2007-03-28 03:01:12 PM

leave the skin on, it can always be taken off later.
or does that make too much sense?


It makes zero sense. If a guy wanted it done as an adult, the idea of it might make him hesitant, because no one wants a knife down there.

Glad mine was done before I can remember.
 
2007-03-28 03:01:54 PM
Smarshmallow

pussy.
 
2007-03-28 03:02:03 PM
Bad Housekeeping: Most women, including myself, prefer them cut; easier to give head that way.
All the fun without the nasty aftertaste!


I would suggest that the nasty aftertaste has more to do with the quality of man chosen (and his hygiene choices) rather than if his junk is cut or not. Uncut men do not taste or smell bad if they bathe on a regular basis.

It is true, though, that a cut man can go longer periods of time without washing the junk before the funk sets in... Not really much of a selling point, though. :)
 
2007-03-28 03:02:10 PM
Kempnerius - Mostly what's wrong with circumcision is that it's so popular in America that America's women tend to believe that uncircumcised men look unnatural and strange.

Uncircumsized men suspect that they do not enjoy blowjobs as much as their circumcised peers do, and become all self conscious about their penises and jealous of their cut compadres.

Then they think about how many of these women are bisexual. Then they think about labia and smegma and how there are no commercials for "Manistat" or "Penisil". Then they get pissed at the injustice and utter lack of sense of it all.
 
2007-03-28 03:02:17 PM
Hmmm... I hate to say this, but I'm actually learning "something" on a Fark thread.

As an uncut guy, I had no idea that women could feel a difference!

The only w things I can say definitively are;
1) Whacking off with an uncut dink is pretty good (depends on how you do it, I guess)
2) Anonymity on the internet rules!
 
2007-03-28 03:02:27 PM
Smarshmallow

The Motie books were the best though, in my opinion.

When Heilein puts "Possibly the best science fiction novel ever" on the cover, its worth reading.

/Best of Niven (or Niven/Pournelle)
//Its still behind Dune (to really get off topic)
///And I really like Protector for some reason
////Have read just about everything Niven
 
2007-03-28 03:02:53 PM
Getting cut makes it smaller, less likely to tear anything during sex.....The people in charge of the WHO are hung like 8 year olds and are just trying to level the playing field....
 
2007-03-28 03:03:05 PM
peachgirl

How can you tell when a guy is circumcised? I've only slept with my boyfriend and I would feel rude asking him if his is or not.
I really don't want to look up pictures either.


Judging by your profile pic, many farkers would be willing to let you try theirs so you can compare and contrast.

/not this farker
//happily married
 
2007-03-28 03:03:07 PM
plastroncafe: pussy.

Internet tough-guy.
 
2007-03-28 03:03:19 PM
You're made of drywall?

I said LIKE Gypsum. I'm anhydrous like Ammonia. I also have a foreskin like a deflated bike tube. Get 'em cut, folks. I have to scrub this monster three times a day with BBQ scraper and lye.
 
2007-03-28 03:03:50 PM
peachgirl: I've only slept with my boyfriend

yeah, right, you were passed around the frat house, mabe if you were sober you could remember what some of the cocks looked like

/jk
//i think
 
2007-03-28 03:04:04 PM
The_Gunt: my bad on the previous post

yeesh....
 
2007-03-28 03:04:38 PM
Muninsfire

The Jooooos are in spaaaaace....
 
2007-03-28 03:04:41 PM
Smarshmallow

plastroncafe: pussy.


Internet tough-guy.


What do you know! You are both right!
 
2007-03-28 03:04:46 PM
danlpoon: I have to scrub this monster three times a day with BBQ scraper and lye.

and that's just for enjoyment
 
2007-03-28 03:05:06 PM
Tjos Weel: /Its still behind Dune (to really get off topic)

I don't know. They're different. It would be like trying to decide between chocolate and pizza.
 
2007-03-28 03:05:23 PM
Smarshmallow: making me less sensitive

Can you prove this? Can you obtain ejaculation within lets say....10 minutes of doing the nasty? Or does it take like hours? If hours, then the women aren't complaining eh?

The sensitivity argument puzzles me. I can come with a stiff breeze, and I am cut. What more am I missing? Hell, if its that much more stimulating with the tip, I am glad I am cut. Else, I'd need someone following me daily with a jizz mop.
 
2007-03-28 03:05:31 PM
Mine was so big, it was a fiveskin.
 
2007-03-28 03:06:10 PM
muninsfire
There was a book by...I want to say Heinlen, about a guy who gets cryogenically frozen and then gets thawed in the future, who's about to get laid when the chick he's about to roger gets freaked out because he's 'mutilated'--because the practise is unheard of there.

Sex seems to bring up some really freaky attitudes in this world, doesn't it?


That was in one of Heinlen's books, I don't remember which one though. Also, if you read much Heinlen you will see that he will work over some of the freaky attitudes about sex, if you have them that is. I personally love his works. If you want a book that goes into some really strange directions that show to what extent he would bend attitudes try Friday; Job, A Comedy of Justice; and Farnham's Freehold. All good works.
 
2007-03-28 03:06:19 PM
Hitler wasn't circumcised and look what happened there.
 
2007-03-28 03:06:28 PM
Which does the world prefer?

How much mainstream porn has an uncut guy?

Any thoughts?

/cut
//pierced
///waves his wang
 
2007-03-28 03:06:30 PM
Kempnerius What's wrong with circumcision? And why is it wrong enough to merit flaming?

I've been trying to figure this out ever since my partner and I had a fantastic argument about hypothetically circumcising our equally-hypothetical children. Guessing the controversy is some kind of neo-liberal guilt in which circumcision has become some kind of eurocentric practice that is somehow inhumane.

I'm cut, and have had no detrimental effects, at least none of which I'm aware.

In the western world, cut or uncut is a purely cosmetic/fetishistic preference. In more-sceptic places, however, lopping off the tip makes a bit more sense. And, for this week, at least, docs seem to agree.
 
2007-03-28 03:06:38 PM

The sensitivity argument puzzles me. I can come with a stiff breeze, and I am cut. What more am I missing? Hell, if its that much more stimulating with the tip, I am glad I am cut. Else, I'd need someone following me daily with a jizz mop.


I agree, the wife and I always do it twice. The first time is the warm-up and the second time is the actual event.
 
2007-03-28 03:06:48 PM
I think peachgirl needs some WIE.
 
2007-03-28 03:06:51 PM
I_C_Weener: if its that much more stimulating with the tip, I am glad I am cut. Else, I'd need someone following me daily with a jizz mop.

so maybe it is not the JOoooo conspiracy, but the unsatisfied mothers of the world...
 
2007-03-28 03:06:51 PM
This thread is useless without pictures


/errrrrrr
//whatever
 
2007-03-28 03:07:08 PM
I_C_Weener: Ergo the discrepency in numbers of cut v. uncut penii in porn.

only in American porn. This cut phenom is really an American fetish.

peachgirl: How can you tell when a guy is circumcised?

There will always be a circular scar that runs around the head of the penis and ends at the base of the head.

jst3p: I am pretty sure men who have not been hacked up get more out of it, too.

The Department of "Making Up Unverifiable Facts" agrees with you.


Nah it's pretty much scientific fact that nerve endings die on the head of your cock after circumcision.
 
2007-03-28 03:07:19 PM
I'm cut. I don't really know why: I suspect it was just common practice at the time.

I don't have a problem with it. All you farkers calling it barbaric don't really know what you're talking about. I'm not saying I know the other side of the fence but stop claiming that getting cut is some kind of horrible mutilation. We're fine and AFAIK there is no problem with sensation. Honestly the thought of some kind of weird flap of skin on the end of Mr Winkie seems pretty gross. I'm happy the way I am.

Female circumcision is, of course, a completely different kettle of fish.
 
2007-03-28 03:07:23 PM
Smarshmallow

I vote for chocolate pizza.

/Now Im going to be sick
 
2007-03-28 03:07:25 PM
baby_hewey: Friday; Job, A Comedy of Justice;

I liked that one. A bit odd, but if I was looking for 'not odd' I wouldn't have gone to the "Heinlen" section.

Farnham's Freehold

Don't think I've read that one--what's it about, again?
 
2007-03-28 03:07:46 PM
From TFA:

Studies in South Africa, Uganda and Kenya have recently shown that circumcised men are on average 60 per cent less likely than uncircumcised men to pick up the virus (New Scientist, 25 November 2006, p 8)

Huh. To be honest, though, without hearing one scientific reason for WHY you are less likely to contract it after being circumcised, I will remain skeptical.

/of course, that doesn't concern anyone here
//flaming is more important than learning
 
2007-03-28 03:07:47 PM
BruiserX

Hitler wasn't circumcised and look what happened there.

And where is the uncircumcised outrage? Obviously the Anteater Brigade seeks to take over the world. And it's the JOOOOOS who are stopping them!
 
2007-03-28 03:07:55 PM
What can I say, I think Mutilated I think that soldier that came home from Iraq with no face. I don't think of someone who had a "procedure" as an infant that still allows him to live a normal life, have a successful sex life, and was able to breed.
 
2007-03-28 03:08:09 PM
jst3p: What do you know! You are both right!

I'm not sure how I'm being a pussy. I'm just calling a spade a spade (pun intended).

Circumcision is mutilation, genital mutilation of an infant.

It's culturally acceptable, like a lot of things in the past that have later turned out to be wrong.
 
2007-03-28 03:08:09 PM
muninsfire: Sorry to correct you again. Didn't read all posts first. Nice to see some people out there with taste in books though.
 
2007-03-28 03:08:11 PM
Hell, if its that much more stimulating with the tip, I am glad I am cut. Else, I'd need someone following me daily with a jizz mop.

/LMAO. Yeah... I've never known a man to have trouble cumming. Well... I've heard of some with ED... but they're all old.
 
2007-03-28 03:08:24 PM
I_C_WeenerM

If you really want to know the difference, go out and buy a ManHood. You'll soon understand the difference...

//When you're cut, the head becomes one big dry calous
///compared to an uncut one anyways...
 
2007-03-28 03:08:31 PM

In the western world, cut or uncut is a purely cosmetic/fetishistic preference. In more-sceptic places, however, lopping off the tip makes a bit more sense. And, for this week, at least, docs seem to agree.


Yeah, the whole "cut/uncut" debate is laughable. The "experts" change their mind every couple years.

Wait till you have a baby and you try to figure out if back sleeping or stomach sleeping is the best way to prevent SIDS. The right answer changes monthly.
 
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