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(Newsday)   "This is really going to change the face of MMA. Literally creating a sport that could be as big around the world as soccer. I liken it somewhat to when the NFC and AFC came together to create the NFL."   (newsday.com) divider line 46
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2007-03-27 05:00:07 PM
Oh great now well have a synergistic pile of crap. Seriously UFC is boring to watch they've changed the rules to favor grapplers so much it isn't even fun to watch anymore.
 
2007-03-27 05:04:20 PM
To say that anything will be as popular here

But, unifying the two major presences in any sport that is fractured and trying to create increased interest is a good thing.

/looking at you, CART and IRL
//MMA is doing a better business than many other more publicized leagues as it is, the perceived "core" violence just keeps it off of most sports pages.
 
2007-03-27 05:05:08 PM
Forgot to finish my thought....

To say that any sport will be as popular in the US as the NFL or around the world as soccer is fairly foolhardy.
 
2007-03-27 05:06:11 PM
Not as popular but certainly putting a big hurt on boxing. MMA is crushing boxing.
 
2007-03-27 05:14:27 PM
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/DRFTA
//Oh I get it..Mixed Martial Arts
///stands by orginal statement
////runs away
 
2007-03-27 05:36:29 PM
Pride and UFC need to team up with NASCAR.
The demographics are the same. They could put a UFC ring in the infield and have non-stop fighting as well as racing.
When Tony Stewart gets pissed he can challenge people to the octagon.
NASCAR Pride - Feel It!
 
2007-03-27 06:59:50 PM
Jonathan Jonathan Jonathan

Cant wait for that.
 
2007-03-27 07:01:44 PM
I think it's a little more akin to the WWF absorbing the WCW.
 
2007-03-27 07:09:27 PM
I think it's a little more akin to the WWF absorbing the WCW.

Excepting the fact that WWF/WCW are choreographed bouts with predetermined winners, right? I agree with your statment in part but MMA involves real life fighting, not just staged shinanigans from what I know of it.
 
2007-03-27 07:17:27 PM
UFC definitely HAS already replaced boxing. Boxing's friggin' gone until they get rid of the 85 belts and promoter shiatheads like Don King.

/all for a Cinderella Man II about Randy Couture's victory over Tim Sylvia
 
2007-03-27 07:21:39 PM
That huge Russian in Pride will farking murder anyone in UFC. He's scary in an Ivan Drago way.
 
2007-03-27 07:21:50 PM
The fights aren't ALWAYS choreographed and outcomes aren't ALWAYS predetermined but yeah, excepting that fact. I wouldn't call either sports so the NFL comparison is not apt. But both...spectacles (?) involve incredibly athletic, skilled, dedicated men who beat the CRAP out of each other.

I would go on to say that the NFL is more physically demanding than both.
 
2007-03-27 07:22:28 PM
In no way could this be compared to the WWF absorbing the WCW, unless you look at it as one company taking over their major rival. First and foremost, its not choregraphed, its actual fighting, and not to mention that Pride and the UFC are going to operate as seprate companies, but have talent swaping between the two for bas ass superfights.

/Can't wait to see Lidell vs Shogun and Fedor vs CroCop II
 
2007-03-27 07:32:56 PM
But MMA isn't really a sport, is it? No teams, no points, no spherical object of interest, no sense of sportsmanship or athletic pride. It's simply two morans beating on each other with all the grace of a street brawl. To even suggest that such a cockfight is a sport demeans the very spirit and meaning of the word.
 
2007-03-27 07:36:18 PM
That is awesome i cant wait to see some of the match ups
 
2007-03-27 07:37:50 PM
Not really "two morans beating on each other." Take the Couture-Sylvia fight - the perfect example of wrestler v. brawler, why a wrestler will always beat a brawler.
 
2007-03-27 07:44:34 PM
Pride completely farked themselves in recent months/years.

It's sad how they went from making UFC their biatch (outside of the US), to nothing...
What's funny is that at least three Pride fighters, right now, could win the UFC belt in their weight class with relative ease.
 
2007-03-27 07:47:35 PM
Wrestlers don't always beat brawlers robsul82, Chuck liddell beat ortiz and couture who were great ground and pounders.

Imagine Liddell vs. cro cop or Fedor vs. Sylvia. Even though Sylvia would have no real chance. It should be very entertaining.
 
2007-03-27 07:48:41 PM
no sense of sportsmanship or athletic pride
I hope you were joking, but I sadly doubt you were.

This isn't back-yard street brawl. Just about every one of these guys are professional martial artists.

Hell, I'd go so far as to say even enemies in MMA fighting have more respect for one-another and sportsmanship than, say, your typical NBA player.
 
2007-03-27 07:50:21 PM
It should be very entertaining.
Sylvia would be put in a hospital, or worse.

Seriously, Fedor isn't a knock-out artist (he has the power, but he typically doesn't do that). Sylvia is so slow... I can't imagine what would happen to him in the first minute against Fedor (or CroCop for that matter).
 
2007-03-27 07:51:07 PM
I missed a "but" up there. "But Sylvia is so slow..."
 
2007-03-27 07:57:30 PM
Lorenzo Fertitta is a uniter, not a divider.
 
2007-03-27 07:59:10 PM
Actually MMA is one of the original sports, if you go back to Greek history, where it was known as pankration. Not to mention in the US there is a team based league (the IFL), there are belts, weight classes, and 10 point must system per round like in boxying, and the fighters usually display acts of sportmanship not seen in any other sports. Any more reasons why MMA shouldn't be considered a sport, Man_Without_A_Hat

/Hope I just didn't bite on a troll.
 
2007-03-27 08:00:29 PM
Well, I loved the Cinderella Man aspect to Couture's win over Sylvia, but it took like 5 seconds before I realized, "Oops, now Randy has to fight Cro Cop..."

/he beats Cro Cop - THEN a movie gets fast tracked
 
2007-03-27 08:13:28 PM
Great. I just read that Pride will adopt the Nevada State Athletic Commission rules.

They've ruined the organization's fighting style on the first day. Why don't they just take the ring down and put up a cage?
 
2007-03-27 08:21:36 PM
This will not stop me from having sex with your dog.
 
2007-03-27 08:22:49 PM
UFC has to most croked judging and officiating I have ver seen. Don King can learn shiat from them
 
2007-03-27 08:23:25 PM
crooked*
 
2007-03-27 08:25:58 PM
ah fark it, my whole reply was shiat
 
2007-03-27 08:27:55 PM
I'm thinking the XFL with Dik Buttkiss.
 
2007-03-27 08:27:59 PM
my gun can beat your unarmed combat
 
2007-03-27 08:29:22 PM
submitter: "I liken it somewhat to when the NFC and AFC came together to create the NFL."

If you are going to put something into a press release, you should at least make sure that you are correct. The AFC and the NFC didn't come together, the AFL and NFL merged to form the NFL as we know it today.

That being said, this is a great thing for MMA fans. There are some great Pride fighters that haven't been able to fight the UFC guys, but now they will. Can't wait.
 
2007-03-27 08:35:34 PM
I hope Pride does not adopt the Nevada State Athletic Commission rules, ie: no striking to the head of a grounded individual with your leg. This is what makes Pride more exciting, I find. I love the head stomps, soccer kicks, and knees to the head. UFC can get a little slow on the ground and this would clear it up so quickly. It does leave the fighters open to injury, but often Pride fights don't end with a kick to the head on the ground.

/Just think of the match-ups though
//Fedor FTW
 
2007-03-27 08:39:19 PM
Pride > UFC

Fedor comes to UFC and kills everybody... should be exciting to watch.
 
2007-03-27 09:01:04 PM
Yeah. I would have been excited too if they didn't already announce that they would use NSAC rules. Now we can see guys in pride staying on all fours to avoid headstrikes. This is one of the worst things that could have happened.
 
2007-03-27 09:01:13 PM
This'll be the new sport embraced by rednecks.
 
2007-03-27 09:32:56 PM
When asked to comment, Chuck Liddell said, "srrt shrst weddyy" and then fell asleep.
 
2007-03-27 10:08:06 PM
Certainly not as big as the NFL merging, but it is huge in the mma community.
 
2007-03-27 10:45:55 PM
Anything that unifies the fighting world is great. There's so much out there that you can't keep track of it. Plus you need to generate interest from casual viewers, and casual viewers aren't interested in grappling.
 
2007-03-27 11:02:25 PM
To hell with the casual viewer.
 
2007-03-27 11:03:15 PM
You just know that MMA is going to be the setting for the next Rocky Balboa movie.
 
2007-03-27 11:11:00 PM
Mary Mercy Ambulance? As he dies of a heart attack?
 
2007-03-27 11:17:34 PM
Yes, welcome to universal NSAC rules. Wonderful. Read StinkyDiver's post for my opinion of 'doggy fighting.' On the other hand, if the sport becomes big enough, someone might be found who can beat Emelianenko.

/Knowing he's likely to win every fight against the current best is almost as irritating as being accused of being a 'fanboy' when mentioning the fact that he's likely to win every fight against the current best.
 
2007-03-28 01:43:27 AM
Fedor is the greatest fighter in the world without any doubt at all. I for one hope for the best with this buyout. PRIDE is one of the best things eva!
 
2007-03-28 11:03:36 AM
Fedor = cyborg. And everyone knows it. And I can't WAIT to see him with both UFC and Pride heavyweight belts...no offense to Couture...but he can't beat Fedor.
 
2007-03-28 12:54:04 PM
gee ... all this love for Fedor, but he's signed a long-term deal with bodogfight, so ... yeah. how many fights does he have left on his Pride contract, if any? probably won't ever see him in a UFC cage.
 
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