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2007-03-26 03:03:44 PM
fail, fail, and FAIL.
 
2007-03-26 03:05:13 PM
submitter: and your a crappy parent

But their vocabulary will be better, meaning they will know the proper contraction of you are is "you're," not "your."
 
2007-03-26 03:06:36 PM
But they will have no souls
 
2007-03-26 03:06:37 PM
I see you guys have it covered.
 
2007-03-26 03:10:05 PM
If she weren't in day care she would have killed me in my sleep a long time ago.
 
2007-03-26 03:10:10 PM
Hell no. If my daughter was in daycare at the age of 24 ... ;)
 
2007-03-26 03:12:44 PM
+1
 
2007-03-26 03:14:27 PM
TFA: Page Not Found
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While the service is unavailable, you can use your browser's "Print" feature, usually found under your browser's "File" menu, to print a web page.


What an insightful article. Thanks for sharing, submitter. You made my $5 totally worth it this month.
 
2007-03-26 03:43:41 PM
Ha ha! Your kid went to daycare, ya lewzer, OMGBBQLOLOLOL!!!1!1!!!!!!1DIRTYDIAPERSFTW11!!!ONE!
 
2007-03-26 03:45:33 PM
I don't really think so. My kid is in daycare two days a week: Enough to get socialized to other kids, but not enough that it takes away from us teaching him what is right and what is wrong (along with the ABC stuff). Every other day he is either home with my wife, or on weekends she works with me.

I also think it might have a lot to do with the particular daycare. Some are just collective babysitters, and others actually have a curriculum that they follow.
 
2007-03-26 03:46:22 PM
Eh, I could have already told you this as it seems fairly obvious to me. The bottom line is that if one parent is financially able to stay home with their children, they absolutely should; at any rate, dumping your kids in daycare for 12 hours a day with some uneducated and overwhelmed $7/hr daycare workers is not going to be beneficial to them in the long run.

Also, talking to your children is important to their developing linguistics skills. Don't talk at them or around them or for them; talk to them. Involve them in conversation, sing to them, describe things to them, read your shopping list out loud to them at the grocery store, whatever.
 
2007-03-26 03:48:35 PM
Ha Ha! If your sorry lazy ass had done better, you'd have a job that paid enough so that your wife could stay home with the kids! Them bootstraps ain't gonna pick themselves up, loser.
 
2007-03-26 04:06:39 PM
correlation does not equal causation.
I bet there are a billion things that they could correlate between the two groups.

Link to actual article rather than borked "print" page.
 
2007-03-26 04:14:07 PM
dillenger69

Thanks...for a second there, thought that subby was just angry and using a busted page to foist his opinions on us in the form of a made-up headline

/off to RTFA
 
2007-03-26 04:14:20 PM
I never see the logic in two parents working their butt off only to use their salary to pay a stranger to raise their kid. It just doesn't make sense to me... Sure you're financially better with 2 working parents but is your family or kids in a better position in relation to you, the parents?

Just sayin.
 
2007-03-26 04:16:21 PM
2007-03-26 04:06:39 PM dillenger69
correlation does not equal causation.


yes, it's a "limitation" of the design that translates effectively into "more research needed".

social science needs to give up the science part, because nothing is ever definite.
 
2007-03-26 04:16:23 PM
screw the article, the headline alone makes this a flame-war ready thread

/and that's great, because I didn't want to work this afternoon anyways

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//for the record, we decided for my wife to leave work and raise our daughter - the amount of money she was going to take home after paying for child care did not make up for the amount of time we'd be taking days off because our daughter would be sick (more), and the added stress of getting up 2 hours earlier so we could all get ready for work and child care and get out the door
 
2007-03-26 04:17:26 PM
They scooped Romero on that thing about kids in crappy daycare ending up being dumber than kids in quality daycare. I wonder if teh money has anything to do with it . . . .
 
2007-03-26 04:17:32 PM
submitter: If yes, they are going to be losers, and you're a crappy parent

So you'd rather they stayed home with a crappy parent?
 
2007-03-26 04:18:26 PM
pvd021

I never see the logic in two parents working their butt off only to use their salary to pay a stranger to raise their kid. It just doesn't make sense to me... Sure you're financially better with 2 working parents but is your family or kids in a better position in relation to you, the parents?

You are making two unfortunate assumptions:

1) The parents actually recognize the two-parent issue.

2) The issue would affect their behavior.
 
2007-03-26 04:19:07 PM
pvd021 I never see the logic in two parents working their butt off only to use their salary to pay a stranger to raise their kid. It just doesn't make sense to me... Sure you're financially better with 2 working parents but is your family or kids in a better position in relation to you, the parents?

I agree and I don't think it's ever ideal to have your kid(s) in daycare. But some do it for the health bennies or just to get by, while others are doing it for the Beemer.

Personally don't think the latter is a reasonable excuse for putting your kids in daycare but I try not to judge others' motivations when it comes to this sort of thing.
 
2007-03-26 04:19:16 PM
Women are equal now. Why should they sacrifice a career for the welfare of their children?

Little self-centered brats.
 
2007-03-26 04:20:12 PM
If you can pull it off, the best way is to have both parents working part time at different times so that they both have opportunities to be at home and bond with the kid on different days. But that can be tricky to arrange.
 
2007-03-26 04:20:13 PM
mdeesnuts

Women are equal now. Why should they sacrifice a career for the welfare of their children?

Little self-centered brats.


The children or the women?
 
2007-03-26 04:20:29 PM
Trying to apply a statistical relevance to something as variant and immeasurable as parenting makes the baby Jesus cry.
 
2007-03-26 04:20:34 PM
Dare care is a necessity for my wife and I not to kill each other or one of the kids.

/If it causes negative effects, so be it!
/Actually, I'm calling serious bullshiat shenanigans on this article. What a crock!
 
2007-03-26 04:21:06 PM
Maybe if we had a reasonable maternity/parental leave system in the United States (the only other nations without paid maternity leave are third world African nations), we wouldn't see so many kids being raised by poorly paid daycare workers. Maybe if caring for children was viewed as an important job worth paying for in order to protect our nation's future, daycare workers wouldn't be chronically underpaid and overworked.
 
2007-03-26 04:21:07 PM
I was put in daycare as a child and I'm really getting a kick out of these replies!
 
2007-03-26 04:21:20 PM
I have a female client who just put her newborn of five months in all-day daycare.

In my opinion, that's child abuse.

If you can't raise 'em, don't have 'em.

/hope she doesn't read Fark
 
2007-03-26 04:21:26 PM
I'm sorry if my wife and I both have to work to afford our house/car payments and all our other bills. We were very carefull to put our daughter in a daycare that would not only have a structured day, but would also work with us to help her learn things we want her to work on.
One of us staying home just isn't an option for us, and it's not an option for many, many families. Sure, we'd love for one of us to stay home with her all day, but it's just not possible. It's nice to say that one parent should just quit their job, but it's not realistic for everyone
 
2007-03-26 04:22:41 PM
pvd021: I never see the logic in two parents working their butt off only to use their salary to pay a stranger to raise their kid.

I think that would be silly, too, but my guess is that, in most cases, the second income is significantly more than the cost of daycare.

I only know of two people who would've broken even had they sent their kids to daycare, and in both cases the mother stayed home.
 
2007-03-26 04:22:42 PM
Yes, everyone KNOWS the child should have a mommy replacement, known as the NANNY.
 
2007-03-26 04:22:55 PM
dittybopper [TotalFark]
I don't really think so. My kid is in daycare two days a week: Enough to get socialized to other kids

I agree, but I think it depends on the age. A kid under, say, 8 months old doesn't really need to "get socialized" to other kids. He needs to get used to life outside the womb and bond with his or her parents, not be bombarded by 30 new faces, voices, smells, etc.
 
2007-03-26 04:22:59 PM
donwregefark

She got five months off for maternity leave? How did she swing that? Most people get 6 weeks if they are lucky...
 
2007-03-26 04:23:23 PM
/hope she doesn't reads Fark

There, fixed that for you
 
2007-03-26 04:23:47 PM
Kriegshund
I'm sorry if my wife and I both have to work to afford our house/car payments and all our other bills. We were very carefull to put our daughter in a daycare that would not only have a structured day, but would also work with us to help her learn things we want her to work on.
One of us staying home just isn't an option for us, and it's not an option for many, many families. Sure, we'd love for one of us to stay home with her all day, but it's just not possible. It's nice to say that one parent should just quit their job, but it's not realistic for everyone


You should kill your wife, your crotch fruit and then yourself as you obviously fail as a parent and human being.
 
2007-03-26 04:24:08 PM
From TFA:

"In the study, child care was defined as care by anyone other than the child's mother who was regularly scheduled for at least 10 hours per week."

So fathers don't count as parents, apparently. Fascinating.
 
2007-03-26 04:24:10 PM
The title of the article is misleading.

Also it says that kids in daycare have better vocabulary. But it says that they have more behavioral problems. Sometime "behavioral problems" translates to bright children that don't follow dumb directions from teachers.
 
2007-03-26 04:24:13 PM
TFA: In the study, child care was defined as care by anyone other than the child's mother who was regularly scheduled for at least 10 hours per week.

I get it: apparently it IS all the mom's job. CNN says so.

pvd021: I never see the logic in two parents working their butt off only to use their salary to pay a stranger to raise their kid.

Are you basing that on what you think day care costs or what kind of salary you think people make?

better with 2 working parents but is your family or kids in a better position in relation to you, the parents?

My ex-husband is a professional student, which is one of the reasons I left him. I guarantee you my daughter's better off with me working full-time and putting food on the table than if we stayed home in our cardboard box out in the alley. I understand that anectodal evidence doesn't conclusively undermine the article's point, but there are holes in all of these arguments.
 
2007-03-26 04:24:27 PM
Simple choice:
Mom goes to work and you can afford a good home for your kid.
Mom stays home and you have to live in a part of town where your kid will learn importantly life-skills such as crack-smoking and prostitution at a conveniently young age.
 
2007-03-26 04:24:30 PM
BunkyBrewman: Yes, everyone KNOWS the child should have a mommy replacement, known as the NANNY.

preferably 18-19 years old.....and Swedish

/tried that with my wife too
//she said no :-(
 
2007-03-26 04:25:07 PM
I've been noticing a lot of stuff in the media lately about kiddies and stay-at-home parenting. I'm almost getting the feeling that this nation's itching for Donna Reed again. This seems like another attempt to make working women BADBADBAD! :P
 
2007-03-26 04:25:10 PM
Galen_Rasputin

And if he does I hope the long arm of the law finds you. Free speech doesn't extend as far as you seem to think...
 
2007-03-26 04:25:39 PM
What if I just dump them off here in the morning? Does that count?
www.djc.com
 
2007-03-26 04:25:42 PM
I always thought daycare was vastly overpriced. I mean, the only reason parents need daycare is if they need both paychecks coming in, but the day care is usually so expensive, that it virtually halves one of the parents' paychecks, which forces one of them to get a part time second job to make up the loss.

Most times, they end up so exhausted that they can't really give the child(ren) the attention they need in the few hours a day they have left, so the kid ends up feeling neglected, and ends up turning into a serial killer whose M.O. is hacking retired hockey players' wives to death with an authentic replica of Worf's bat'leth from Star Trek: The Next Generation...

...Just sayin'

/Mixing soapbox ranting and pop-culture subreference humor in a clumsy and underappreciated way since 1983
//My initial point is valid, though
///My "Trek" joke for today is over... you can all relax now
 
2007-03-26 04:25:47 PM
Galen_Rasputin: You should kill your wife, your crotch fruit and then yourself as you obviously fail as a parent and human being.

/did Serpent_Sky get a new FARK account?
 
2007-03-26 04:26:17 PM
My son goes to daycare on campus (he's 6) right after he gets out of school for about 2 hours. He's a farking genius, polite and well behaved. Can't say that for the rest of those animals they call kids there. But if you've seen the parents you would know what I am talking about.

He also went to preschool before kindergarten. It was a great school and had a structured program to learn, field trips etc. I think he learned a lot, actually.

/DRTFA
//it doesn't exist
///but i can print!
 
2007-03-26 04:26:37 PM
I'm working from 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 pm today. My wife is working from 5:00 p.m. today to 8:30 a.m. tomorrow. Then, I'm working 8:30 to 5:00 tomorrow, etc. etc. This enables one of us to be home with our 3 children (6,4,2) at all times. Plus, the fact that we never see each other prohibits us from doing what it was that got us here in the first place.

/sometimes it pays to be married to a hooker
 
2007-03-26 04:26:55 PM
Dare care is a necessity for my wife and I not to kill each other or one of the kids.

/If it causes negative effects, so be it!


Your kids are doomed anyway since you guys are murderous psychopaths. Or something.
 
2007-03-26 04:26:55 PM
In the study, child care was defined as care by anyone other than the child's mother who was regularly scheduled for at least 10 hours per week.

So... when my husband worked from home for two months so he could stay with our daughter she was in daycare? Damn, that was cheap. The daycare she's in now is infinity times more expensive.
 
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