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(Seacoast Online)   One Wal-Mart cargo container enters the United States every 45 seconds, only 5 percent of them are checked   (seacoastonline.com) divider line 96
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2007-03-25 05:52:58 AM  
What is more important "" Wal-Mart's profits or America's security? Sadly for Wal-Mart, we know the answer is profits first and America's security second.

It's not Wal-mart's job to keep America secure; it's the government's job.
 
2007-03-25 05:57:45 AM  
www.sincuser.f9.co.uk

Thanks for the info, habib.
 
2007-03-25 06:01:17 AM  
Don't worry. The bombs will all be produced by sweatshop labor and be lower quality than bombs by the same brand name produced for other shops.
 
2007-03-25 06:02:26 AM  
"currently the technology does exist for scanning 100 percent of port containers."

If Dudley Dudley says it's so, I've got to believe him him.
 
2007-03-25 06:02:48 AM  
(ha ha! That was humor, nice badge-carrying gentlemen)
 
2007-03-25 06:15:47 AM  
Skwidd: Check them for what?

Maybe it means as opposed to being striped?
 
2007-03-25 06:20:59 AM  
I'd feel more comfortable about this if it came from some other source.

/paperclips cause cancer
 
2007-03-25 07:11:53 AM  
LaChanz: "currently the technology does exist for scanning 100 percent of port containers."

But can the technology scan the containers at the rate they are coming in?
 
2007-03-25 07:14:13 AM  
Wal-Mart is the Number One customer at the Long Beach harbor, which is the busiest harbor in the world.
 
2007-03-25 07:17:09 AM  
labman: But can the technology scan the containers at the rate they are coming in?


I'm no expert on any of this, but isn't 100% all of them?
Personally, Wal-Mart or not, they should be doing more to check containers coming in. It just seems to be too easy an opportunity for wrong-doings. Terrorist or others.
 
2007-03-25 08:27:41 AM  
LaChanz: they should be doing more to check containers coming in.

The question remains, though, check them for what? Short of maybe blowing up a warehouse somewhere when the container is unpacked, I'm not sure what exactly can be accomplished with a Wal-Mart container. And I somehow don't think Wal-Mart warehouses are high on the list of terrorist targets.
 
2007-03-25 08:45:58 AM  
CheekyMunky: And I somehow don't think Wal-Mart warehouses are high on the list of terrorist targets.

But the ports are.
 
2007-03-25 08:52:34 AM  
CheekyMunky: And I somehow don't think Wal-Mart warehouses are high on the list of terrorist targets.


Like I said, Wal-Mart or not. Wal-Mart isn't the only destination for all the containers coming in. And it's not a matter of wanting to just blow up (or whatever) the destinations, but the means to get the materials to cause damage elsewhere. 5% of containers is not good enough.
 
2007-03-25 09:18:29 AM  
CheekyMunky: I'm not sure what exactly can be accomplished with a Wal-Mart container.

Smuggling a nuclear weapon into the states in order to detonate it inside a city of turrists choosing.
 
Rat [TotalFark]
2007-03-25 09:21:33 AM  
How, I ask you, are the two open registers going to handle all those supplies? Juanita and Benita need a raise for sure, and while we're at it, lets get them some sort of dental plan.

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2007-03-25 09:22:45 AM  
Don't shop at the Wal-mart!
 
2007-03-25 09:24:46 AM  
While the article is anti-Wallyworld, my opinion is not.(This time) I don't think that Wal-Mart is the one responsible to increase inspection of these containers, the US gov is.

/subby
 
2007-03-25 09:30:22 AM  
And I somehow don't think Wal-Mart warehouses are high on the list of terrorist targets.


The terrorists hate freedom and Great Value(TM) Raisin Bran.
 
2007-03-25 09:30:37 AM  
It's not Wal-mart's job to keep America secure; it's the government's job.

The same gov't that has brought you Iraq 2: Electric Boogaloo, the Katrina response (you're doing a heck of a job, Brownie), and is so in debt to the Chinese it makes your head spin? Yeah... Right...
 
2007-03-25 09:32:25 AM  
We're scanning 5% now?
Wow... that's almost double the number we were scanning before the 9-11 Report came out. Impressive!
 
2007-03-25 09:33:00 AM  
CheekyMunky: The question remains, though, check them for what?


i106.photobucket.com
 
2007-03-25 09:33:38 AM  
games.gearlive.com
 
2007-03-25 09:33:41 AM  
A)The U.S could check every container throughly, but no one wants to spend $500 on that T-shirt, nor pay a 85% tax rate.

B)How many things have been blown up by Wal-Mart containers??
None!

C)How many Japanese migrating turtles have been smuggled in...None...and If so WHO CARES.

In Fact, this entire article makes me yawn and is a waste of precious Farkers time better spent looking for the Holy Grail of the Bronze Boobies.
 
2007-03-25 09:34:03 AM  
You guys are a bunch of whiners. How else am I going to get a box of Great Value Anthrax for only $1.19?
 
2007-03-25 09:34:53 AM  
Half Man Half Biscuit: But the ports are.

The problem is that with a nuke, or even a dirty bomb, it doesn't matter if they take the container off the ship. Simply touch that sucker off in the harbor, and were all in a world of hurt. Currently the world economy is heavily reliant on international trade, and a major port attack would bring that trade to a screeching halt. If that happens, we all get to live through another worldwide depression.
 
2007-03-25 09:35:36 AM  
Those shipping containers are full of poor people who will be shopping at wal*mart.
 
2007-03-25 09:36:09 AM  
Submitter is a giant pussy.
 
2007-03-25 09:37:21 AM  
Local civic leaders and members from the activist group WakeUpWalMart have called for Wal-Mart, the No. 1 importer of port containers in America, to "help stop the next 9/11"

I wish these advocacy groups would stop using 9/11 as an excuse to get their way. As far as I know, neither shipping containers nor Walmart were in any way involved in the planning or execution of the attacks (except, of course, for that one time when Bin Laden had to stop at the Kabul Walmart on his way to Saddam Hussein's birthday party to pick up a six-pack and some cheap wine since the K-Mart around the corner refused to sell alcohol after 9pm).

These guys even have a valid point: we need to do a better job when it comes to checking who and what comes into this country. What we don't need is more feel-good bullshiat like another take-off-your-shoes-and-give-us-a-urine-sample TSA check. But the second you bring up 9/11 in a more-or-less unrelated context, it takes away from your credibility and I'm just much more likely to support someone who actually manages to make a coherent and logical argument without fearmongering.
 
2007-03-25 09:38:42 AM  
BigBooper: If that happens, we all get to live through another worldwide depression.

And insane fundie terrorists (from any religious persuasion) care about this why? Seems to me like a worldwide depression would make things a lot easier for them to do some worldwide recruiting. Isn't that one of the reasons terrorism flourishes in third-world countries?
 
2007-03-25 09:41:33 AM  
Maybe we should shut down every successful business in america so that the ones that over charge you can take more of your money for the same crap.

While we're at it, no more Toyotas, the big 3 are in trouble...
No more McDonalds...Hardees is having trouble...
No more Microsoft...Mac needs to do better
No more Starbucks...Joes coffee shop might close if they come into the neighborhood.


I love walmart because when I started out on my own I couldn't afford a whole lot. Walmart doesn't always have the best quality, but should I do with out things because they make money selling cheaper products. I guess so. So instead of paying $8 for a lamp I should have gone out and paid $50 at sears.

Fark all you anti Wal-Mart people. They are successful and you het them for that reason alone.
 
2007-03-25 09:44:40 AM  

What a load of rubbish.

Barely 5% of *all* containers are checked, not just Walmarts, and every large volume shipper is lobbying against 100% checking, not just Walmart. So instead of "we have a global security issue that we really might want to deal with", we get "SEE! Didn't we tell you Walmart is EVIL? They're helping the TERISTS!".

What a transparent hatchet job from an axe-to-grind lobbying group and an ignorant and/or complacent journalist.

 
2007-03-25 09:50:19 AM  
Gunderson

A)The U.S could check every container throughly, but no one wants to spend $500 on that T-shirt, nor pay a 85% tax rate.

I don't think Wal-Mart's numbers would change all that much. It doesn't cost them any money to have it scanned...but it does cost us money.

B)How many things have been blown up by Wal-Mart containers??
None!


Ah! But how many planes were hijacked and steered into buildings before 9/11? It just takes one nuke or dirty bomb for everyone to get all pissed off.

C)How many Japanese migrating turtles have been smuggled in...None...and If so WHO CARES.

Yeah, no argument here.

In Fact, this entire article makes me yawn and is a waste of precious Farkers time better spent looking for the Holy Grail of the Bronze Boobies.

Preach on Brother Gunderson...preach on!
 
2007-03-25 09:52:29 AM  
Rubble: Submitter is a giant pussy.


You wish.
 
2007-03-25 09:57:01 AM  
With this type of security, you would think the price of Cocaine would go down, but no.

//Hates Inflation.
//Doesn't do coke.
 
2007-03-25 09:57:53 AM  
ergo...wal mart are terrorists

but we already knew that
 
2007-03-25 10:03:12 AM  
LaChanz [TotalFark]

"currently the technology does exist for scanning 100 percent of port containers."

If Dudley Dudley says it's so, I've got to believe her her.


Dudley Dudley is female.
Dudley (first name) is her given name
Dudley (last name) is her married name

/Fixed that for you
 
2007-03-25 10:06:05 AM  
angst178n: I love walmart because when I started out on my own I couldn't afford a whole lot. Walmart doesn't always have the best quality, but should I do with out things because they make money selling cheaper products. I guess so. So instead of paying $8 for a lamp I should have gone out and paid $50 at sears.

I don't hate Wal-Mart, but to suggest that Wal-Mart is 1/6 the price of any other store out there is absolutely ridiculous.

Hyperbole, pure and simple.
 
2007-03-25 10:12:10 AM  
Manic_Repressive: And insane fundie terrorists (from any religious persuasion) care about this why? Seems to me like a worldwide depression would make things a lot easier for them to do some worldwide recruiting. Isn't that one of the reasons terrorism flourishes in third-world countries?

They do care about it. One of the main goals of terrorists to to damage the economy of the targeted country. That's why ports are such huge targets. That and the fact that our ports are effectively unprotected. It's easy to float a ship into a harbor and set off a bomb while it's still on the ship. Are we going to search every ship, cargo or not, before it enters U.S. waters? If the terrorists do get their hands on a nuke, all they have to do to nuke NY, is to float it into the harbor.
As for using containers to ship in conventional explosives, why bother? Very effective explosives can be cooked up with unrestricted chemicals right here in the U.S. Any one else remember Oklahoma City?
 
2007-03-25 10:19:35 AM  
i168.photobucket.com

smiley-fu
eee-yah!
 
2007-03-25 10:21:11 AM  
Checked by who? Do you want the federal bureaucracy to check every single one of the shipping containers that enter the US? Dude, it's impossible.
 
2007-03-25 10:32:35 AM  
Wow, the retards have finally realized what any self respecting terrorist has known for 30 years. Containers can be used to smuggle stuff.

What about the scenario where said container with bomb inside is detonated On the Farking Ship? Before it is unloaded? It won't kill as many people, but the objective would be fulfilled, that is to terrorize.

What utter crap. This simply an attack against Wal Mart, and has zero to do with national security.

But it gets the attention whores some airtime because most media outlets can spin it into something sensational against everybody's favorite target, large corporations.

As has been said earlier. it's not up to Wal Mart to scrutinize the containers coming from their suppliers. Legally, I doubt the goods even belong to them until they are inside a warehouse on US soil.

Why not demonstrate against the government?

...oh right, that won't get any attention.
 
2007-03-25 10:33:09 AM  
The t'rrists have you Americans so riled up....this is too funny, from an outsiders' perspective.

A frightened populace is OBEDIANT to authority.
 
2007-03-25 10:36:06 AM  
If the terrorists want to smuggle a bomb into the states, they'll do it easily no matter what security we have in place.
 
2007-03-25 10:40:32 AM  
SWOrah


If the terrorists want to smuggle a bomb into the states, they'll do it easily no matter what security we have in place.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Answer me this, smart guy: if your statement is true, then why are people prevented from taking tubes of toothpaste on planes? I'll tell you why: because banning toothpaste stops 100% of terrorist activity. The government said so.
 
2007-03-25 10:50:04 AM  
Last One Left It's not Wal-mart's job to keep America secure; it's the government's job.

If a company is responsible for doing a particular action that depends on government security then I think that company should bear some of the cost.

It would be like Exxon demanding that the government provide security at its drilling stations.
 
2007-03-25 10:50:10 AM  
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Answer me this, smart guy: if your statement is true, then why are people prevented from taking tubes of toothpaste on planes? I'll tell you why: because banning toothpaste stops 100% of terrorist activity. The government said so.

OH! I see what you did there.
 
2007-03-25 10:50:46 AM  
I'm down on Bush as much as anybody, but really - use your fricken head for once.

What's the difference between setting off a nuke on the dock as opposed to near the dock?

Strategically speaking, setting one off near New York, Boston, Baltimore, etc is all they'd need to do. With the nuke's radius, it doesn't have to make it to port.
 
2007-03-25 10:51:44 AM  
BigBooper: If that happens, we all get to live through another worldwide depression.

And insane fundie terrorists (from any religious persuasion) care about this why? Seems to me like a worldwide depression would make things a lot easier for them to do some worldwide recruiting. Isn't that one of the reasons terrorism flourishes in third-world countries?


Didn't you just answer your own question? Wouldn't you do something if it made your job a lot easier? In addition, it also hurts a major enemy of yours.

The better question is, what global terrorist organization wouldn't want to do this?
 
2007-03-25 10:57:34 AM  
Just imagine the terror value of hitting a Walmart. Half of you farkers would cheer!

What could possibly be gained by blowing up a port besides the temporary inconvience to business? Terrorists want to scare people. How scared are you going to be about a port? It's a waste of a good explosion. Terrorists want to kill people, not destroy products.
 
2007-03-25 11:03:07 AM  
Check them for what? Chinamen?

"Don't be ignorant! These are an entirely different kind of chink!"

(Not racist... Crash.)
 
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