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(News.com.au)   There are those that drink deeply from The Cup of Human Kindness, and share it freely with others. And then there's Helen Pretty   (news.com.au) divider line 185
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2007-03-25 05:26:20 AM
Sad.
 
2007-03-25 05:40:37 AM
consciousNOT: Sad.

She said she's putting family first. . .I didn't know brothers failed to qualify as family.

/pathetic
 
2007-03-25 05:41:24 AM
good lord.
 
2007-03-25 05:41:37 AM
Pretty?

Sister, you got real ugly.

/Ash, housewares.
 
2007-03-25 05:43:17 AM
too little information in the article.

i want to know why she doesn't want to donate.

it's not really risky or anything, so i guess there are some other issues involved.
 
2007-03-25 05:44:43 AM
Helen Pretty, who runs an education business from the $900,000 home in Wilmslow, Cheshire

I like it when a story makes complete sense at the very end
 
2007-03-25 05:45:04 AM
also, it's REALLY important that they tell you the price of her house...
 
2007-03-25 05:46:04 AM
yeah, it's hard to trust anything in such a subjective article...
 
2007-03-25 05:48:36 AM
Wait...WTF?? Since when doesn't your brother count as family? As bio4ema said, I'd like to know why she changed her mind & now no longer wants to donate.

This story is sad, but she's just pathetic.
 
2007-03-25 05:48:58 AM
Last I checked, bone marrow donation was done under general anesthesia. This produces approximately 5 deaths in every million, but can be higher in cases were pre existing medical conditions exist.

While I personally would be glad to donate marrow to my family, some people are afraid of even the slightest risk. Perhaps she is afraid of dying under the knife and leaving her own children behind.
 
2007-03-25 05:49:26 AM
I just don't know how someone and excuse this kind of action in their own minds. What kind of lies do you have to tell yourself to clear that pathetic excuse of a conscience?

"Sure he's going to die and it would only be a minor inconvenience to me to save him. But I don't want to miss Katie's dance recital, I have to put My family first"

Grah!

You know that if she was suffering from congenital heart failure she'd expect to be on the recipient list.
 
2007-03-25 05:52:36 AM
Meanwhile the Ironic tag waits in the wings for a future illness to affect this cold-hearted biatch. One that can only be cured by a transplant from her long dead brother.

Assuming a normal family relationship in which the brother never sexually or mentally abused her, I see no reason for her to be such a farktard. Those family reunions sure are going to be fun now aren't they.
 
2007-03-25 05:52:42 AM
To get congenital heart failure, she would need to have a heart first,

I said genital.
 
2007-03-25 05:54:22 AM
I'm betting she just read "Atlas Shrugged".

/troll
 
2007-03-25 05:54:33 AM
thats some gooooood public shaming
 
2007-03-25 05:54:59 AM
i137.photobucket.com

/"Pfft! Amateur!"
 
2007-03-25 05:57:42 AM
Jesus, that women is going to get lynched from that article.


I never met my father. It was just a fling between two people who weren't really in a relationship, and he never got involved. I don't have any hatred towards him or anything; these things happen. His family also didn't want anything to do with me or my mother; it was an embarassment on them for their son to have a kid out of wedlock. Anyway, the story goes that when I was around six years old, my father's brother needed a bone marrow transplant and I was a likely match, so they came to my mother to get me to donate. She refused. As it was, bone marrow donation was very painful and confusing for a kid.

I never did find out what happened, and didn't hear about the situation until much later.

The point is, there is often much more to it than simply "I hope you die." Sometimes things are complicated.

I really don't know what to think about this article.
 
2007-03-25 05:58:19 AM
bio4ema: Knowing she is wealthy makes her easier to hate.
 
2007-03-25 06:00:19 AM
Hal B. Sure: I said genital.

...and I laughed at this. Then again I have been up all night.
 
2007-03-25 06:05:52 AM
Eh... I'm torn.

On the one hand, this is as petty and childish as refusing to share your Crayons with a sibling, but with much higher stakes. It's astonishingly cruel, and the woman deserves all the scorn she receives for this.

On the other hand, I don't want to see her socially coerced into this if she doesn't want to do it. It would be better for everyone if marrow donation interest rises substantially because of the publicity and he gets the treatment he needs from someone willing.
 
2007-03-25 06:06:09 AM
I didn't know my ex wife had a brother...... :P
 
2007-03-25 06:06:23 AM
If it was my sister with the leukimia and I was the pefect donor, she would be farkED!

I would not walk across the street to piss on her if she was on fire.

Total stranger, would probibly get some of my marrow.
 
2007-03-25 06:07:51 AM
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Jesus, that women is going to get lynched from that article.

I never met my father. It was just a fling between two people who weren't really in a relationship, and he never got involved. I don't have any hatred towards him or anything; these things happen. His family also didn't want anything to do with me or my mother; it was an embarassment on them for their son to have a kid out of wedlock. Anyway, the story goes that when I was around six years old, my father's brother needed a bone marrow transplant and I was a likely match, so they came to my mother to get me to donate. She refused. As it was, bone marrow donation was very painful and confusing for a kid.

I never did find out what happened, and didn't hear about the situation until much later.

The point is, there is often much more to it than simply "I hope you die." Sometimes things are complicated.

I really don't know what to think about this article.


I think if you were somehow found to be a perfect match and you mother refused, everybody would have the same feeling about your mother as this lady in the article.

Sometimes things aren't complicated. He's going to die, you can save a life with minimal risk. All that "I hope you die" bullshiat is just that, bullshiat.
 
2007-03-25 06:12:28 AM
I'm betting they have rich parents.
 
2007-03-25 06:14:56 AM
Sometimes, people do hope other people die, and sometimes, they're right to feel that way. I think it's extremely irresponsible of this newspaper to publish this article without knowing and disclosing the details of why she is refusing. Maybe he spent the past decade in jail for molesting her children, for all we know.
 
2007-03-25 06:18:37 AM
Meh, she just wants his stuff
 
2007-03-25 06:19:30 AM
Googling shows those who want to promote other donations claim "Living Kidney Donation Poses Minimal Risk for Donors", too. Yet, I don't think coercion should be used on potential donors.
 
2007-03-25 06:24:21 AM
Add me to the condemnation dogpile.

/Reprehensible piece of shiat.
 
2007-03-25 06:25:03 AM
gund: I think if you were somehow found to be a perfect match and you mother refused, everybody would have the same feeling about your mother as this lady in the article.

Sometimes things aren't complicated. He's going to die, you can save a life with minimal risk. All that "I hope you die" bullshiat is just that, bullshiat.


Think what you like. Shall I e-mail you her cell phone number so that you may lecture her on the ethics of bone marrow donation based on what you learned from a paragraph-long anectdote? What if I told you that this man was a heroin addict that was no longer capable of caring for anyone? Would that change your opinion? What does the man have to do before you no longer care whether he lives or dies?

It's easy to be self-righteous when you don't know the entire story.

I'm not trying to flame you I'm just saying there exists a grey area of morality you can't appreciate or judge until you've lived it.
 
2007-03-25 06:26:11 AM
slackist: Meh, she just wants his stuff

The lack of objectivity in the article aside, I bet the first thing he did when she refused was write her out of his will.
 
2007-03-25 06:30:35 AM
As a Member of the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement, I'd say that this man's death, although only a small step, is a step towards our goals.

Crying children begging auntie to not let their daddy die is just a bonus.
 
2007-03-25 06:32:08 AM
i55.photobucket.com
"I reckon I aim to kill you with it"
 
2007-03-25 06:37:29 AM
This is like Locke on Lost (yeah I watched it until the end of the first season when I realised to my horror that the writers don't actually know where they're going with it) meets that episode of the Simpsons with Homer and Grandpa, where Homer keeps chickening out.

Either way, I do agree with the posters above who say there may be a whole story we don't know about - I mean, I would do anything to save any member of my family, but we aren't a Springer Bunch (if you know what I mean).
 
2007-03-25 06:37:54 AM
I would not donate to save my older brother. There is some very farked up history behind my reasons though. I will not judge the lady in this article. For all we know her brother may have sexually abused her at some point in her life. If that is the case then " Sorry about your luck pal " seems quite understandable to me.
 
2007-03-25 06:40:45 AM
log_jammin: Helen Pretty, who runs an education business from the $900,000 home in Wilmslow, Cheshire

I like it when a story makes complete sense at the very end

That's how they address things in England. They don't have street numbers or anything. My address would be the $500 apartment in Chicago. That's why it costs so much to mail stuff there, all the mailmen are home appraisers and they have to go door to door until they find one. It's tedious, but they love tradition over there.
 
2007-03-25 06:44:16 AM
El Dan I think it's extremely irresponsible of this newspaper to publish this article without knowing and disclosing the details of why she is refusing. Maybe he spent the past decade in jail for molesting her children, for all we know.

Highly unlikely. That sort of information would be known to lots of others - neighbors, other family, etc. The report does say she refused to comment, so they did give her a chance to state her case. She's probably just a coont.
 
2007-03-25 06:44:54 AM
NEWS FLASH!!! Bone Marrow can be removed with a rusty spoon and a pair of scissors!! Time to get Medieval on yo' ass.... Youtube Film at 11...
 
2007-03-25 06:49:49 AM
what if i am a perfect match? I dont have a passport, but hell, i wanna see europe. If i can save his ass they must let me through right?

/you better believe im drunk
 
2007-03-25 06:53:15 AM
 
2007-03-25 06:57:37 AM
Yeah, yeah, yeah: we haven't walked a mile in her shoes and we don't know the reason for her decision etc. etc. etc. You can come up with whatever stupid justifications you want for that woman, but her behavior is inexcusable.

She must have agreed to the procedure at one point; she consented to be tested for compatibility. That pretty much rules out the childhood abuse theory some of you have put forth.

Slice it any way you want: she's a biatch. Pilloried in the media? She deserves it.
 
2007-03-25 07:00:51 AM
staplermofo: My address would be the $500 apartment in Chicago.

writing speeding tickets would be a biatch.

"The $15,000 nissan was driven by Mr Smith who lives at $175,000 Springfield Missouri"
 
2007-03-25 07:04:45 AM
*clicks above link*

AAARrgghhssadf. Helen Pretty, my ass. Is it too much to ask for truth in advertising?

/Hell On Pretty
//at best
 
2007-03-25 07:05:01 AM
2007-03-25 06:44:16 AM Rodeodoc


El Dan I think it's extremely irresponsible of this newspaper to publish this article without knowing and disclosing the details of why she is refusing. Maybe he spent the past decade in jail for molesting her children, for all we know.

Highly unlikely. That sort of information would be known to lots of others - neighbors, other family, etc. The report does say she refused to comment, so they did give her a chance to state her case. She's probably just a coont.


Maybe he molested her and she never reported him? The point is that there is obviously a history here that we don't know about and it's stupid to jump to conclusions without knowing the most important fact - why is she refusing?

Also, as a former newspaper reporter, I can tell you that there are plenty of good reasons why people don't want their darkest secrets being printed. You think this woman wants her co-workers and friends to know that her brother raped her/shot her dog/whatever the hell happened? Really, it goes without saying that if she does have a legitimate reason to refuse, she probably also has a legitimate reason to keep that legitimate reason private.
 
2007-03-25 07:10:29 AM
What a biatch. If I were one of her clients, I'd cancel my contract with her.

Why did she get tested for compatibility in the first place if she wasn't willing to go through with it?
 
2007-03-25 07:12:06 AM
Even though I haven't spoken to my brother in several years, I would donate marrow - and go back to not being close. It seems fishy that she would agree to the procedure, then refuse.

But I don't know how I'd feel about something like a kidney transplant when it potentially could affect your own life and lifestyle.
 
2007-03-25 07:15:51 AM
This story is making me nuts. I can envision reasons that she wouldn't donate, but can't imagine being her and NOT doing it, and my family is pretty dysfunctional, and I hate physical pain to the point of ridiculousness (I freak out about routine vaccinations and sobbed for ten minutes when I had to have a skin biopsy). As far as I'm concerned, she shouldn't have to come forth with her reason, but I hope it's a damned good one.

/and I'm drinking and can't grammar, damn clauses
 
2007-03-25 07:21:19 AM
Wow....once I agree to something, I tend to keep my word.

She agreed to save her brother, and now she's going back on hers? That's fairly...crappy of her, to say the least.
 
2007-03-25 07:23:41 AM
Maskedloser

"She must have agreed to the procedure at one point; she consented to be tested for compatibility. That pretty much rules out the childhood abuse theory some of you have put forth."

You think just because she consented at one point it would rule out anything bad happening to them? The article I read says they were NEVER close. Never close as children? Something there does not seem right eh?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=44 4238&in_page_id=1770
 
2007-03-25 07:25:12 AM
I'm allergic to pain - I break out in tears... but If you can not appreciate the life of someone else, then you can not appreciate your own life... and therefore are not worthy of having a life.
 
2007-03-25 07:27:00 AM
Did some research as I hadn't considered donating bone marrow before (typically you sign up for a registry and wait until needed)

There is much more variation than blood types. You have 6 Human Leukocyte Antigens (HLAs.) You get 3 from mom, and 3 from pop. The types are below

MHC Class I
Locus#[1]
Major Antigens
HLA A349
HLA B627
HLA C182
Minor Antigens
HLA E5
HLA F2
HLA G15


Although a perfect match is not always necessary, there are 5,973,867,900 variations for a perfect match. You're likely to find your match with someone having the same genetic (generally your ethnic) background. I know there could be a great difference in the frequency of HLAs, but you could safely assume that if they didn't find him a match through Britain's registry (or any of the registries they are plugged in with) that his chances of finding another match are minimal.
 
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