yossarian reznor: he said to the extent they do have them

yes he did say that and I read what he said and had a brainfart, my bad

BJU sucks dick

Mugato: Unless it's a big company, in which case they have to have written warnings and a good reason to fire you or you can sue. Especially if you're a woman or a minority.

*ahem*
Horseshiat. The rules are the same for everyone, and I've seen it in action. Show your work, and play it straight. You have not the first actual clue what you're talking about, despite what you were told on the radio.

A private school can do whatever the fark they want.
These children think they have problems?
Imagine your parents forking out 20k a year for you to go here, and you're a legal adult!

I especially love how sexual assault and consensual sex carry the same penalty.

Mugato:

Unless it's a big company

Sure, you *can*. But the people who should sue and deserve to win are never the ones that actually *do*. They just take their lumps and move on or get shot down over BS laws. That and unless you find a lawyer who's willing to work only for a cut of the winnings, it will cost you a ridiculous amount of money to sue a big company. They always have crack legal teams.

star_topology: GenevaLogic's "Vision"

Fun fact: Vision, made by GenevaLogic, used to be known as MasterSolution. Can you guess what country they are from? I'll give you a hint. Starts with Germ- and ends with -any.

/the more you know
//crappy piece of software
///netman at a college.
////blocks myspace outright
/-FTW!

Nanny government in action.

ShakaZuluStyle: you have no understanding of what a private school is.

How does a private school get to enforce what the hell you do at home? Do they send the farking penguins over, to stare you down, or what?

Do they have their chaste Servants of God cruising MySpace, making sure that their lambs daren't despoil their virtue? Have they nothing better to do with their time in service to the Lord?

This is nothing more than hysterical handwaving by ignorant administrators caving in to the shrill scare-of-the-moment, as promulgated by idle bluenoses.

worldbeater: You got your /b/ in my Fark.
you got your fark in my /b/


BGates: But, i didn't go to a private school so I don't know. But, I bet the school gets sued if they try to enforce this.

no, it is entirely legal and legitimate for a private school to restrict something like this.

ColPapa: Nanny government in action.

But what if the parents agree with the school? What if the school is just alerting the parents to a problem? What if it's actually parental responsibility in action? That's why they sent their kids there in the first place. Man, people can biatch about anything...

FlyingJ
RancidPlasma-
Thanks for elaborating The Catholic School Conundrum!

For their "grad prank" one year, the whole graduating class skipped out and got drunk. The administration found out, and they all got suspended for a day and had a stern "talking to".. haha, take that! They had parties every weekend, they'd create flyers and pass them around with maps and instructions, including the ever-so-present BYOB. Thanks mom and dad!

serpent_sky: It's a lot of why I refused to acknowledge Catholicism as a sad, sad part of my past.

Yeah, but who wants to worship a ghetto God?
We wants our Gods big.
If he loves you, he gives you money.

tatsumaki4ryu: You may not possess or play computer and video games [...] featuring [...] rock music.

Oookaaay...

allanhowls

Do they send the farking penguins over, to stare you down, or what?






/yes, yes they do!

Am I the only one who has a problem with their REASONING of this?

TFA: School officials felt it necessary to apply the new policy after recent cases of adults, some in authoritative positions, posed as minors to converse or meet with young boys and girls.

So apparently because ADULTS can't stop being child molesters...the KIDS must be punished?

...wow

allanhowls: "How does a private school get to enforce what the hell you do at home? Do they send the farking penguins over, to stare you down, or what?

Do they have their chaste Servants of God cruising MySpace, making sure that their lambs daren't despoil their virtue? Have they nothing better to do with their time in service to the Lord?

This is nothing more than hysterical handwaving by ignorant administrators caving in to the shrill scare-of-the-moment, as promulgated by idle bluenoses.

You are terribly too hopeful.

Submitter: "Thank goodness kids have never heard of Facebook, Friendster, etc"

Thanks goodness submitter has never heard of reading the article, where it specifically says MySpace or other similar personal sites...

z00mz00mz00m: What if the school is just alerting the parents to a problem?

OMFG th3r3z a s3ri3s of t00bz!!!11!
Protect the chirrens!

Myspace is just the next big thing contrived to scare parents. At the turn of the 20th century, it was chewing gum (I shiat you not) that was declared to be the corrupter of youth. In the 20s, it was jazz. In the 50s, it was the triumvirate of communism, comic books, and rock 'n' roll. In the 80s, it was Satan. In the 90s, it was Marilyn Manson. Now it's Myspace.

How doesn't anyone catch on to this? People get paid to make you scared about crap that doesn't matter.

serpent_sky: It's a lot of why I refused to acknowledge Catholicism as a sad, sad part of my past.



/nice going!

Another St. Hugo parent, Liza Stanczak, said all schools should implement the policy.

I think this is just the beginning of schools taking a stand against this kind of thing, Stanczak said. "I think this is going to have to happen because things are getting out of hand."
Pretty out of hand? Isn't that your fault as the PARENT of the child?
/I guess it is easier to let the school make your decisions.

jwood: You are terribly too hopeful.

That's actually quite different, believe it or not.
A "university" (pardon the quotes, but Liberty is not a university, no matter what name they put on the letterhead) is far more of what sociologists would call a "total institution" than is a day school. Further, you would expect that sort of code from an evangelical institution, whereas Catholic education (especially by Jesuits at the collegiate level) is far more lenient and actually focused on academics.

allanhowls: People get paid to make you scared about crap that doesn't matter.

I don't know Man. I've got kids and they have myspace accounts. I've seen some pretty farked up shiat out there. I have an account also so that I can see what they and their friends are doing. I think it's part of parental responsibility. I don't worry about my kids enough to send them to private school but I can imagine parents that do.

WhyteRaven74

A minor can't legally sign on to obey rules. A parent or gaurdian has to sign. And since this rule probably wasn't done with parent input or notice? Forget court, I can see a lot of parents, and the diocese coming down on the school.

First off, sorry I didn't post earlier. My brother wants to use the computer at the most inopportune times.

This isn't just being sprung on the parents. It says they'll have to sign an agreement at the start of the year and both parents or children will have to sign. So I'm still not seeing how they can't make this a rule? Do I think it's stupid? Yes. Do I think it's enforceable? Probably not especially if you have children who have a smidge of tech-savvy. Do I think it would stand legally? I see no reason why not.

F42

Rock music is a no-no with Bob Jones. If you checked the rest of the site, I think the only form of music they allow is traditional Christian music. Not even contemporary Christian (Jars of Clay, dc Talk, etc) is allowed under their rules. Because if it's not traditional Christian, than clearly Satan had a hand in creating it.

Umm... number one, there's no way in hell they can enforce this. Second, it violates the First Amendment. It would be one thing if they banned the site on campus but the fact that they try to dictate a students' behavior at home goes well above and beyond their role. I smell a lawsuit and a quick end to this idiocy.

allanhowls

Uh...how exactly is Liberty University not a university? If they're granting degrees at all levels, doesn't that mean that they are in fact a university?

Jonathan39305: Umm... number one, there's no way in hell they can enforce this. Second, it violates the First Amendment. It would be one thing if they banned the site on campus but the fact that they try to dictate a students' behavior at home goes well above and beyond their role. I smell a lawsuit and a quick end to this idiocy.

Yes, it's legal. They can refuse to provide an education for the child if the child has a MySpace account. This is a private school. Since it's being required in advance, any parent that disagrees can send their child to another school.

Jonathan39305

Do a Google or Wikipedia on Bob Jones University and get back to us on what a private school can and can't do with students at home and at work.

z00mz00mz00m: I've seen some pretty farked up shiat out there.

See, that's the thing...the farked up shiat has always been there, in exactly the same amounts. Nothing changed about humanity; you're just more aware of it now. There've always been perverts living around the corner from you...you just didn't know it until you had internet access and 24/7 "news" coverage.

Always bear in mind: crime rates have been steadily decreasing across the board for over a decade. Everything you see and hear about how bad it's getting is just to spread The Fear.

But yeah, we have responsibilities as parents. One is to keep our kids safe. Another one is to pay attention, settle the fark down, and not overreact whenever someone plays off our instinctual parental fears.

So all we have to do is get a list of student names, then make fake MySpace pages for all of them. Either all students will be expelled, or they'll realize exactly how stupid their rule is.

In order for this to work, they need to give the kids an alternative to MySpace. Something like, oh I don't know, a life perhaps?

Jonathan39305: Second, it violates the First Amendment.

no it doesn't, sparky...

altinos

So all we have to do is get a list of student names, then make fake MySpace pages for all of them. Either all students will be expelled, or they'll realize exactly how stupid their rule is.

So when can we expect the Fark headline about your exploits that ends with "...Jailarity ensues."?

tatsumaki4ryu: So when can we expect the Fark headline about your exploits that ends with "...Jailarity ensues."?

How often do people get arrested for putting fake information on a webpage? Hell, we'd all be in jail for that.

tatsumaki4ryu: how exactly is Liberty University not a university? If they're granting degrees at all levels, doesn't that mean that they are in fact a university?

That's a college.
A university is an actual institution of knowledge and learning, not a diploma mill. Compare Oxford, Harvard, Stanford, or the Sorbonne to Liberty.

Once upon a time, there was a rather selective application of the word "university." However, post-GI Bill, our egalitarian society decided that every normal school and trade college should now be a university.

The term has been whored out to the point of meaninglessness. The free and unfettered play of ideas across disciplines, for the sheer experience of cultivating the mind is long gone. We've all been acclimated to thinking of "universities" as employee orientation with a four-year sleepover...and more's the pity.

allanhowls: See, that's the thing...the farked up shiat has always been there, in exactly the same amounts.

Yes, it has. And it is or should be the parents responsibility to protect their kids from it. The internet is a fairly new phenomena in history. Communication is advancing at a blinding pace. There will be a lot of parents who are concerned about the people and things that their kids are exposed to. Not just in their neighborhood or their city, but from all over the world. That wasn't a worry in the past. You could just turn off the TV...

Ok, I didn't read the article, but BGates is absolutely right.

Private schools can make pretty much any rule they want, as long as it's not infringing civil rights. Noone has a right to a myspace account. It's a choice they make to create one. This school wants to make a rule saying they can't have them, then I applaud their pathetic attempt at making it seem like they care. They can't police it. It's not even possible. Fake name? Bueller? Fake name?

BFD

Still, don't like it? Leave.

altinos

I think that's a pretty thin line you're talking about. Wasn't there a Fark headline awhile back where some people did something similar to a teacher or principal? If I remember correctly, it didn't end well for them.

Mugato:

Wow, of all the blanket, fascist school policies I've heard of, including not being allowed to wear any colors because of gangs and not being allowed to wear Reeboks because they show a foreign flag, this one is right up there.



Well afterall, this is America, land of the free. So free, you're not allowed to wear those things.

Do they have these same restrictions in any of the Western European democracies?

Why use your real name and/or your real photos?

Problem solved . . .

tatsumaki4ryu: Bob Jones University and get back to us on what a private school can and can't do with students at home and at work.

College students are also over 18 and capable of making those decisions for themselves, unlike K-12 kids. More of a conscious choice, don't'cha know?

allanhowls

I thought a college was only liberal arts and universities offered degrees at all levels. I mean just because you think universities have been cheapened over the years doesn't mean that the definition is not applicable. For example, I'm going to the College of William & Mary this fall. But I'm going for grad school. So even though it's called "College" it's actually a "University".

I mean I don't think calling Liberty a university means I'm revering it above all others if that's what you're worried about. University doesn't give it a holy aura. It just seems like it's a fact to me.

LOL at America - what have you become?


And Goodfella, here in Ireland we don't.....yet. We are becoming more Americanised every day though, so it won't be long until stupid policies like this are passed.

z00mz00mz00m: There will be a lot of parents who are concerned about the people and things that their kids are exposed to. Not just in their neighborhood or their city, but from all over the world. That wasn't a worry in the past. You could just turn off the TV...

Good idea. You can also put filters on the tubes coming to your hizzouse. All are well and good, and fantastic tools in the hands of responsible parents. What I object to is the hysteria surrounding the latest trendy panic, and the overreactions like this one that ensue. It's silly, pointless, and ultimately counterproductive. Once kids find out you're full of shiat, they'll never listen to you again.

allanhowls

College students are also over 18 and capable of making those decisions for themselves, unlike K-12 kids. More of a conscious choice, don't'cha know?

That's not necessarily true. I had a friend who was born on October 11. When we went to college, this means she didn't turn 18 for several months. We went to a public school so it wasn't applicable. But what if we were at Bob Jones? Or BYU?