Well of course the Discovery Channel, History Channel, and TLC are sell-outs! People like to hear about mysteries, not about crop vandals. It keeps people watching. I've seen "ghost detectives" and "pet psychic" too, and they are equally full of BS, though in a unfun way.

PattonX:

On late spring weekends, we used to set up kiddie pools our campus and fit as many people in them as possible. The only way to keep water in the pool was to run a hose to it constantly. The unfortunate side effect was a kiddie-pool shaped circle of dead grass that lingered for weeks afterward.

On many counts, environmentally unsound. But when you're 18 and drunk, you are much too busy luring the opposite sex into the kiddie pool to consider such trivial things.

Broadley - Very true! There's a difference between healthy skepticism and a chronic skeptic. Same as there's a difference between a scientist and a "Christian Scientist" who simply looks for specific lack of evidence to "back up" biblical "claims."
But that's a whole 'nother kettle o' fish!
*runs away*

I'm responsible for the Nazca Lines.

I did it, and I'm GLAD, see, I'M GLAD!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

FarkingUpTheWrongTree Well crop circle makers have ALREADY demonstrated how they do all that, with the exception of the time. It takes a few hours, not 30 seconds. Anyone who claims a crop circle was made in 30 seconds didn't notice it the first time they walked by.

I think they're caused by Prostetnic
Vogon Jeltz and the Galactic Hyperspace
Planning Council.

But that's just me...

Bionicjoe: BELIEVE!

N = R* • fp • ne • fl • fi • fc • L

N = The number of civilizations in The Milky Way Galaxy whose electromagnetic emissions are detectable.

R* =The rate of formation of stars suitable for the development of intelligent life.

fp = The fraction of those stars with planetary systems.

ne = The number of planets, per solar system, with an environment suitable for life.

fl = The fraction of suitable planets on which life actually appears.

fi = The fraction of life bearing planets on which intelligent life emerges. For more information, please visit Dr. William Calvin's "The Drake Equation's fi"

fc = The fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space.

L = The length of time such civilizations release detectable signals into space.

Narmacil- Could have been a faulty Flux Capacitor. I've seen it a hundred times. You get the low grade Plutonium and the injectors get clogged.

and I saw a show where they tried to duplicate them . Any way they tried, the stalks were broken at the base. Crop circle stalks are bent, not broken.

I try to duplicate Tiger Woods' score every time I go golfing, but I can't do it.

Proof that Tiger Woods is an alien.

Old news, buddy. Old news.

I don't have time to find the cites right now, but yes there have been instances of crop circles appearing under surveillance within a minute and with no people being seen approaching or leaving the field.
This is the minority of cases, yes, but you need to consider 'em all.
And show me how you can selectively heat the innards of individual wheat stalks to make them bend without breaking, with a board?

Are most crop circles hoaxes? Yep. Are some unexplained? 'Fraid so. Were some obviously not made my humans? Looks that way. Does this imply that aliens made 'em? - No, why should it?

The truth is out there, you just don't want to see it.

S'cuse me fellers, but so far I've seen two groups of people come forward and claim to have created some prety simple circles. Now we've all seen tons of really complex circles, who made them? I can barely believe that they all can stay silent.

Maybe they're in the space program and hope this'll boost their budget. Hmmm...

Vegasj If you actually look at that pic closely (and look at a larger pic), you'll see that it isn't totally symmetric. Many of the circles vary by as much as 50%-60% from there associated neighbors. Some branches are off by large angles. On close up, you can see the paths the people used to lay out the major arcs. But I'm sure you don't care.

But look at Narmacil's pic. totally semetric. in the air, that would be easy to do, but not on the ground with wood strapped to your feet, no way in hell would it be that "perfect"

Of course your saying it's impossible makes it so...
The Pyramids were made with incredible precision thousands of years ago. You probably don't think humans made those with primitive tools either.

This is the famous Milk Hill Formation I posted earlier, with some simple explanations. Sorry about the size, but detail is necessary.

First look at the large white circles. I didn't place them that well, but you can see that the arms aren't magical or tough to do. Someone stood still, while another person mapped out the arc the circles would follow. See the black circle points out these "construction lines." You can see them on all 6 arms.

Next you might ask how they could do this all so perfectly. Well, start in the middle, where symmetry is most noticable. The last circles in each arm vary in size, since they have to compensate for any small irregularities that occur. If they constructed the circles on the arm a little too large, and too far apart, they just make the last circle smaller. If they made the circles a little on the small side, and closer together, they make the last circle on the arm larger. Note how 1, 2, and 4 are small circles, 3 and 6 are medium sized circles, and 5 is a large circle.

And don't say it's perspective. 5 and 1 are about the same distance from the camera, and should be approximately the same size, but 5 is much larger than 1. Circle 3 is larger than circle 1, but is farther from the camera!

Surely this demonstrates that this formation (which is the poster-boy of the "impossible for humans to make" crop circles) is either man-made, or the aliens/magnetic forces were physically tramping down the crops. There is no other reason for the construction lines and the irregular last circles. I for one go with the man-made theory.

What's all this I keep hearing about crap circles?

"I had no intention of doing something fancy," said Olson, who plans on getting a mohawk haircut for his 60th birthday. "I just made circles."


I love how they added that in...Wow a sixty year old getting a mohawk, this guy is sooo hip.
This article was so poorly written, they may as well have called Olsen the next Jesus Christ.

08-12-02 07:14:19 PM Brianna
hey Brianna.. do you think anyone else laughs at horses with blinders on?

Of course it's hard to go up from 100% but...
Impaled again! Gotta love it.

So wait, he's gettin' a mohawk on his next birthday? That's relevant to the story how?

People ... these are just CIRCLES ... geometrically the easiest shape to create. How hard is it to stick something in a corn field, tie a rope onto it, and walking continualy in a circle stomping the field down?

Come on people ... CIRCLES!!! CIRCLES!!! CIRCLES!!!

"I try to duplicate Tiger Woods' score every time I go golfing, but I can't do it.

Proof that Tiger Woods is an alien."
well, that's because you suck at golf. That has nothing to do with crop circle stalks being bent or broke.

And some people suck at making crop circles.
But the key to making a good crop circle is to get a nutcase with a good imagination to "investigate" your circle. He/she will come up with things even you didn't anticipate. (the wackos like to go for things like "chemical structure" and anything involving radioactive, magnetic, or ultrared/ultraviolet).

08-12-02 07:51:20 PM SharonDeLove

exactly my point

Sgt. Pepper?

08-12-02 07:48:53 PM Vegasj
Why does the thought of us NOT being the only ones in this galaxy so hard for people to concider ?

It's not hard to consider. What's hard to consider is the idea that there is even the slightest hint of evidence that crop circles are anything but man-made.

Do they know yet how big our Galaxy is ? Or if it's the only one ?

NO.

Um... the Milky Way is approximately 100,000 lightyears in diameter. And it's not the only one; it is estimated that there are 50 billion galaxies in the universe.

Some of our neighboring galaxies go by the names of the Small and Large Megellanic Cloud, the Andromeda Galaxy, and the Sombrero Galaxy.

I saw that movie "Signs", while on vacation with my friends this past week in Philadelphia...good movie, yet I was farking scared LOL I saw something on the Discovery Channel once about these crop signs too...I know they were not really created by alien life forms...but by humans...

Mel Gibson was farking awesome in the movie though ;)

nice Sarlac

Why does the thought of us NOT being the only ones in this galaxy so hard for people to concider ?

Why is the thought of humans making cool designs in crops so hard for people to consider?


Do they know yet how big our Galaxy is ? Or if it's the only one ?

NO.


Yes. If you don't know how to use a search engine and/or encyclopedia to find the answers, I'm sure your local librarian can help you.

I can't stand closed minded arguements. Sure some people have had staged "experts" make up bullshiat about the circles. There have also been actual scientists who have investigated them as well. Until one of us goes out and investigates all of the circles deeming them man-made or otherwise we can all speculate and hmmm and haaa all we want.
Crop circles or not, to believe that we are the only life in in this universe is sad and pathetic.

now go investigate peoples go go...

Not this argument again....

Circles believed to be real have noticeable cellular mutations in the corn stalks within the circle. ALso, the corn is not just pushed down, it is woven together in an intricate pattern.
I don't know who are what did it, but I know they are physically different from one's that people make trying to demonstrate it as a hoax. Just because you can make it look similar, doesn't mean it is the same.

So what all you crap circle wanna believers are saying is that sure Humans created the first crop circles, but then aliens slapped themselves on forehead and said, "Damn, why didn't we think of that" and THEN started to make them.

Can we finally put this thing to rest so the sheep who believe everything is from aliens because us people is to stupid to does it ourself, can get back to being analy probed.

All the proof you need to know that crop circles are BS:

If aliens are out there, they wouldn't waste their time drawing circles on our planet for kicks. They probably already invented the Etch-A-Sketch.

And I don't wanna hear any BS about "explainable" and "unexplainable" crop circles. The unexplainable ones are just the pranksters using new methods.

To anyone who believes crop circles are alien phenomenon: Lay off the heroin and stop appearing on TV and the radio. You're stupid.