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SLAYERSWINE		2002-08-10 05:39:51 PM

I can't blame them. Living on the streets is a pretty hard life I could imagine. In prison they get food, medical treatment, etc.. It is no party though. I sure wouldn't want to be in prison.

MetaPhyzix		2002-08-10 06:01:34 PM

"When it's one or two people, sure they're just bums. But when there's THOUSANDS, when you face the prospect of stepping over a guy who might be DEAD, doesn't it make you think maybe the system doesn't work?" - Bill Hicks

FarmerBob		2002-08-10 08:33:53 PM

Something needs to be done. You can't go anywhere in Manhattan without running into homeless people. Then again, I never saw this problem back in Virginia. Homeless tend to flock to the city because they can basically harrass people until they get money, and there's always more tourists to milk for cash.

If a homeless person tells you they are hungry, it's a lie. They know how and where to get food, there are plenty of homeless shelters and kitchens around. If you see a homeless person in rags, it's an act. They can get all the decent clothes they want for free.

They just want the money for cigarettes, booze, drugs, etc.

Eat More Possum		2002-08-10 10:20:56 PM

There's a sad fellow in our town that lives under the interstate bridge. Everytime it gets real cold he tosses a brick through a window.

FarmerBob What part of VA you from?

Flibbertigibbet		2002-08-10 10:56:13 PM

Hey, sometimes you gotta figure that having a roof over your head, a shower, clean clothes, and regular meals is better than living on the streets, even if it means being locked up.

This also reminds me of my university student ID card. In my picture, I look like a homeless man who raped another homeless man in order to get into prison.

Carrionman		2002-08-11 03:18:29 AM

it's sad... really, thats why things like Bumbang exist though... but then again... i dont think it helps any cause , cept to show depravity at its worst... anyhow its sad.

Tairngire		2002-08-11 03:23:06 AM

I wish there was a way to make all the fvckups who wated their lives stay on the street while helping those who were born into poverty.

Young_Fart		2002-08-11 03:26:03 AM

Wouldn't it be a whole lot easier to just threaten the leader of the free world? Instant visit from g-men, and nobody gets hurt.

Gabbo is Fabbo		2002-08-11 03:28:09 AM

FarmerBob: Geez, you must have lived on the streets a long time to gather that much knowledge about homeless people. I never knew it was so easy to fake pain and misery and hopelessness.

Does this mean that the "homeless" guy in the wheelchair I saw yesterday in Central Square in Cambridge, only had FAKE blood gushing from his mouth? Wow, that's a relief. Thank you for sharing your infinite wisdom of homeless life in America.

Station1Clear		2002-08-11 03:34:11 AM

WHAT THE fark, FARMER BOB!!!!

I used to -be- homeless in Salt Lake City, Utah. There was 1 shelter nearby, and they kicked us out after 2 weeks of staying there. We had -no- food. We wore rags.

You are an ignorant prick! I don't drink, smoke, or do drugs. When some kind person gave me a quarter or two I would hang on to it until I had enough money to buy myself something to eat.

God DAMN that shiat pisses me off. How can you farking say those things?!!?!?!?! You probably don't have to worry about money because daddy pays all your bills, you fukcing douchebag. I had to -work- my ass off to make it to where I am today.

-I- was homeless on the streets. Through hard work and dedication I now have a home. And a college degree.

Fsck You, FarmerBob.

Jesse

Reactron		2002-08-11 03:41:54 AM

I've been wondering what happened to all those homeless people. Seems like they magically disappeared when Bill Clinton took office. Must have been on an extended sabbatical.

A Man Unhinged		2002-08-11 04:10:02 AM

Hey Station1Clear, perhaps you are just not up on the latest tactics of the hobo gentry? Maybe -you- were just bad at being homeless.

I have windows facing a busy alley junction...I could film a documentary on the homeless right from where I'm sitting. The ambitious ones are earning several hundred dollars a week just from actively begging...-they- have told me so. One guy actually turned down my offer of money because all he really wanted was a guitar so that he could play "his music" all day long. There are other guys who collect $50 in bottles and cans from the dumpsters every day, and trundle over to the bottle depot with their shopping cart full of empties.

And before you go all wildman on me, I do give them money more often than not. And everytime I walk to the store to get groceries, I pass a street person on my way I give them a bag of food on the way back.

Maybe the homeless here in Alberta try a bit harder out of necessity. Living outside in -40 degree winters probably doesn't leave them many choices.

A Man Unhinged		2002-08-11 04:13:38 AM

Oh, and I fully support the right of the homeless to get liquored and stoned at every possible opportunity. If I was living outside and sleeping in an alley, that would pretty much be number one on my list of wants.

scofield99		2002-08-11 04:36:47 AM

I don't feel sorry for 'em, if they wanted help there are plenty of opportunities to get it. High time to declare war on the homeless. They look like the terrorists and live in the sewars (read "caves"). They get tons of money from begging and if they would only stop swearing at their other personalities long enough to pick the feces out of their tangled beards they prolly would buy weapons to kill us all.

Toveri		2002-08-11 04:44:49 AM

You know, social security was invented to get rid of these problems... But oh, it's teft, it's better to wait until people commit crimes and then give them shelter than before that. Everybody's gotta work, right.

scofield99		2002-08-11 04:49:31 AM

Actually, in Tucson all the small business owners and community orgs have gotten together to start an ad campaign encouraging people not to give to the homeless. If they need help there are many orgs right in downtown and many people out daily who try to get them to come to the shelters and reform their lives.
Some think of themselves as hippies, some as box car willies, either way it is their choice (excluding families on the street, but many want to get off the street and can find help). Kinda feel sorry for 'em but still say "Nope, don't have any change". Used to give 'em cards with directions to shelters but uh....oh wait I never did that.

scofield99		2002-08-11 04:59:03 AM

I was watching superman today and my dad said the lead actress lady in that movie was found living on the streets with her two front teeth kicked out a few years after her superman days were over. crazy.

he also said he didn't know why they picked her to be the female interest as there is no interest there at all. she's fugly.

scofield99		2002-08-11 05:07:30 AM

If you look up 'homeless sex porn' on Google and click on "Images" you get one picture. This guy:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/BIOS/s-cpbozell.jpg

...oh i'm done for now.

Lalalala		2002-08-11 05:15:12 AM

Ha, Brent Bozell. That's uncanny.

jivemuffin		2002-08-11 05:16:59 AM

I remember I saw this really old movie about this guy that tried to do just that, he wanted to be in jail for the winter...then he had some epiphany about how he'd fix his life, and then police arrested him for loitering or something.

NakedApe		2002-08-11 05:23:01 AM

You don't know what boredom is until you've been in jail. I've never been homeless but I bet being bored isn't as bad as being cold and hungry and having nowhere to go.

Ishkur		2002-08-11 05:55:47 AM

I agree with FarmerBob and whoever else who did too.

I'm sure there are exceptions of people who really ARE down on their luck and need some help getting back into things, but the vast majority of people are homeless mostly because they WANT to be.

Here in Vancouver, the homeless are really young. The average age is probably around 17-19. Streetkids. And they are probably the most honest homeless people you'll ever meet: their signs say "need money for pot". They never harrass. They apologize often. They just sort of sit there, on the street all the time. An easy, minimum wage living is earned merely sitting around panhandling 12 hours a day. They spend the money on crack and whatever else keeps them going. Offer them a meal, and they'll decline. Hell, offer them a job, and they'll STILL decline. It's not that they can't, they quite simply DO NOT WANT to work for a living. It's probably one of the most stupid, stubborn, hippie-inspired mindsets that you will ever encounter from someone--to live for free, perpetually at other people's expense.

The sad thing is that Vancouver's slum--East Hastings street, easily the most downtrodden area in all of Canada--is actually full of people who CAN'T help themselves. A great deal many of the homeless down there are actually mentally retarded or handicapped in some way, because our Institutions can't afford to keep them and so just let them go.

*sigh* poor people.

Station1Clear		2002-08-11 05:56:12 AM

Well, all I remember from my experience is that the people of Salt Lake City, Utah couldn't give two shiats about whether or not you had food or clothing. I was homeless from age 6 until age 9, with my father and brother (two years older than I) and not even farking Social Services could help us. It might have had something to do with the fact that my farking piece of shiat father was too farking proud to accept handouts.

It wasn't until we ran away from him and contacted our grandmother that we actually got an opportunity to live a real life.

Jesse

rhiannon		2002-08-11 09:21:22 AM

The most interesting thing about this is that the headline has absolutely nothing to do with the article.

mnemonic		2002-08-11 10:12:49 AM

This is a crisis.

FarmerBob		2002-08-11 10:30:52 AM

Gabbo is Fabbo:

I'm sure the guy had real blood coming out of his mouth. I never said the homeless don't need medical attention. Many of them have some nasty calamities. My comments were more directed to the people that harrass passersby to get as much money as possible. Typical tactics are to go into a subway car, waiting for it to close, and then start yelling in peoples faces, telling them, "Please, have some pity." Another one is to wait for the crosswalk sign to say "Don't Walk," and then harrass the people waiting there until they give the person money.

On the other hand, there are the homeless who dig through the garbage looking for cans to recycle for the 5 cent deposit. Then there are the people sleeping in the park reading the job section in the newspaper to see if there are any odd jobs available. I have no ill will towards this second group.

Station1Clear:
I don't know about the Mormon State, but I do know there are plenty of good facilities here in New York City. I imagine there are good facilities in other major cities as well.

Skwidd		2002-08-11 11:26:51 AM

My solution for the homeless problem?

Execution.

{/Sam Kinison]

AntiNorm		2002-08-11 11:44:59 AM

Being homeless must really suck ass if the better option is to submit to daily assrapings in prison...

Steve Case		2002-08-11 11:48:49 AM

Breaking News: Not everyone in prison gets raped. Its not funny anymore.

Skwidd		2002-08-11 11:50:12 AM

In theory, you could solve overpopulation and world hunger by promoting cannibalism as an 'alternative lifestyle.'

Downside: Roving packs of smelly, homeless, drunken cannibals.

AntiNorm		2002-08-11 11:58:55 AM

Steve Case: Yeah, if you're in a gang...

btw, I'd find you more credible if you weren't named as you are.

Flibbertigibbet		2002-08-11 03:30:46 PM

Station1Clear: What do you expect? Salt Lake City is full of mormons, and they don't give a shiat about anyone but themselves.

PinkFloyd		2002-08-11 06:32:18 PM

When I was 12-14 I was homeless,not a runaway but homeless. Then from, 15-19 I couch surfed and now I finally have my own home. I think FarmerBob doesnt know what the fark he is talking about. I tried living in homeless shelters,Isnt not as you described. You are lucky if you get some decent clothes and food. I dont blame the guy in the story, I wouldve did the same thing if I was out there long enough.

rhiannon		2002-08-11 09:14:09 PM

PinkFloyd:
What the hell are you talking about? You condone someone for killing a guy? For no reason as well?

KITTEN2		2002-08-12 12:55:24 AM

Scofield99: That actress your speaking of was Margo Kidder and she suffered from mental illness. Untreaded illness is a large part of the homeless problem. And remember, addiction is an illness as well.

I think this is why they call jail,"Three hots, and a cot."