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(Guardian)   Khalid Sheikh Mohammed admits to 9/11 strike, hoped to gain attention of Jodie Foster   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 312
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2007-03-14 09:58:20 PM
Oh the things *I* would do for Jodie Foster's attention...

// Jodies is teh HAWT
 
2007-03-15 12:33:12 AM
amits?
 
2007-03-15 12:34:37 AM

Amit

\A*mit"\, v. t. [L. amittere, amissum, to lose; a (ab) + mittere to send. See Missile.] To lose. [Obs.]

A lodestone fired doth presently amit its proper virtue. --Sir T. Browne.


He is going to lose to the 9/11 strike?
 
2007-03-15 12:34:45 AM
now, can we throw him on the bar b que pit?
 
2007-03-15 12:34:51 AM
Yeah, I'm sure he just freely admitted it. Not coerced or anything. My government wouldn't lie to me, right?..
 
2007-03-15 12:35:21 AM
so confessions obtained via torture are somehow valid now?

/nobody expects the spanish inquisition
 
2007-03-15 12:35:46 AM
oh jebus, here we go...
 
2007-03-15 12:35:54 AM
``I was responsible for the 9/11 operation from A to Z''

I do not understand there is no A or Z in dirka.
 
2007-03-15 12:37:02 AM
Jodie Foster is most definately teh hawt... and TEH GHEY!
 
2007-03-15 12:37:31 AM
Torture. It's the new way to ask honest questions for honest answers.
 
2007-03-15 12:38:21 AM
CIA: Were you behind 9/11?
"terrorist": no.... *ZAP*
CIA: Were you behind 9/11?
"terrorist": i see what you did there...
 
2007-03-15 12:38:22 AM
Seriously, fark needs a spellcheck function added onto the submission page.
 
2007-03-15 12:38:54 AM
Just in case anyone was wondering:

Motives for instituting the Spanish Inquisition

Historians differ about Ferdinand and Isabella's motives for introducing the Inquisition into Spain. A number of possible reasons have been suggested:

1. To establish political and religious unity. The Inquisition allowed the monarchy to intervene actively in religious affairs, without the interference of the Pope. At the same time, Ferdinand and Isabella's objective was the creation of an efficient state machinery; thus one of their priorities was to achieve religious unity to promote more centralized political authority.

2. To weaken local political opposition to the Catholic monarchs. Strengthening centralized political authority also entailed weakening local political opposition. Resistance to the installation of the Inquisition in the Kingdom of Aragon, for example, was often couched in terms of local legal privileges (fueros).

3. To do away with the powerful converso minority. Many members of influential families such as the Santa Fes, the Santangels, the Caballerias and the Sanchezes, were prosecuted in the Kingdom of Aragon. However the King of Aragon, Ferdinand, continued to employ many conversos in his administration.

4. Profit. The property of people found guilty by the Inquisition was confiscated.


Human nature doesn't change.
 
2007-03-15 12:39:41 AM
Torture is as American as apple pie and Red Rider BB guns.

9 out of 10 people being tortured recommend Dick Cheney...He is so sweet on the electrodes to the ball sack...
 
2007-03-15 12:40:23 AM
Frak amidsn amit ot nto raesing haednils.
 
2007-03-15 12:41:14 AM
Not bad, submitter. I went with:

"9/11 mastermind confesses plotting against Carter, Clinton. In turn, Ann Coulter proposes marriage."

But hey, what can ya do sometimes?
 
2007-03-15 12:41:14 AM
"b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Bin Laden"
 
2007-03-15 12:41:21 AM
I don't know whether to believe it is true or not; but part of me wonders if he is taking one for the team.

It would do two things, make him out to be a hero for the extremists nuts and might also shield people who bear responsibility so they can carry out future acts of terrorism.
 
2007-03-15 12:41:29 AM
another repeat thread/article



wtf fark
 
2007-03-15 12:42:05 AM
If you farking beat this prick long enough, he'll tell you he started the goddamn Chicago fire, now that don't necessarily make it farking so!
 
2007-03-15 12:42:53 AM
Waaaaaait a second...

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed != Osama Bin Laden.

So we invaded that country for the wrong reason, too?

0 for 2 this millenium. Not a good start, guys.
 
2007-03-15 12:43:02 AM
FTA:
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the suspected mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, confessed to that attack and a string of others during a military hearing at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, according to a transcript released Wednesday by the Pentagon.

Well if the Pentagon says it's true, it must be.

Not that I'm defending the guy, but our government has been known to lie on occasion. This smells more like a "Hey, let's get the attention off the recent problems with the federal attorney's".
 
2007-03-15 12:43:03 AM
oukewldave: Yeah, I'm sure he just freely admitted it. Not coerced or anything. My government wouldn't lie to me, right?..

Now herein lies the problem of using torture. You're creating a martyr and reasonable doubt. People will say anything to get the torture to stop. Interrogators often, unknowingly, feed the person the very information they want to hear.

The worst part is that while I want to believe this is the moron behind 9/11, I'll never be able to be sure. Why? Do I really think water-boarding is that bad? Yes. We tried the Japanese for it after WWII (as a war crime).

My, how times change. We used to be a moral compass. Sure, individual units / soldiers committed atrocities. If they were caught, they were generally punished for it too. Nowadays, we're just another thug in the muck.
 
2007-03-15 12:44:24 AM
That was strange. I always mix up Sheikh Mohammed with Mohammed Ali.
 
2007-03-15 12:44:31 AM
We really should have court-martialed the guy. In these kangaroo Guantanamo tribunals, we look no more credible to the world than some half-assed banana republic.
 
2007-03-15 12:44:35 AM
It's probably true. But I am a little resentful that my current government has made me so jaded by their lies and distortions that I can't take anything they say as true without large reservations and doubt.
 
2007-03-15 12:45:17 AM
>>"9/11 mastermind confesses plotting against Carter, Clinton. In turn, Ann Coulter proposes marriage."

Yours was better. Next time, try misspelling a word. Apparently, that's all it takes to get greenlit on FARK.
 
2007-03-15 12:45:35 AM
You know what, I really want to believe that this is true. However I can't in face of the torture scandals and the fact that we have absolutely no idea what goes on when these guys are in military custody.

It actually makes me kind of pissed off because instead of being able to think, "Well I'm glad they got him" I have to wonder, "Wait, did they really get the right guy or did they just torture his ass until he said it was him?"

How shiatty is that?

Personally, I don't give a shiat about feeling good - I want the people responsible for 9/11 to all either be dead or in prison, along with the people who supported and finaced them. If the government says they got one of these guys, I want them to... well you know, really get him. I don't want to them to just say they did because while if I take them at face value I might feel good about it, the fact of the matter is if they didn't really get one of these guys, then justice has not been served.

Is that too complicated for Fark?
 
2007-03-15 12:45:45 AM
I work as an inquisitor and I am getting a kick out of these posts.

/I think that they should wax his chest, that'll make him talk
 
2007-03-15 12:45:51 AM
This smells more like a "Hey, let's get the attention off the recent problems with the federal attorney's".

You've got a lot to learn if you think the Pentagon gives a rat's ass about federal attorneys.

/attorneys, not attourney's btw
 
2007-03-15 12:45:57 AM
I thought OBL was the mastermind behind 911?


//Our government coudnt find its head up its own ass if clinton was back in charge
 
2007-03-15 12:46:12 AM
Whatthefark
Not that I'm defending the guy, but our government has been known to lie on occasion. This smells more like a "Hey, let's get the attention off the recent problems with the federal attorney's".

Yeah, they farked up catching Osama, so now they're pegging this guy when it's convenient.

Why not get the guy to admit to the JFK assassination while they're at it?
 
2007-03-15 12:46:45 AM
I will not believe a damn word that comes out of this kangaroo-court Combat Status Review Tribunals. This is complete garbage and unfortunately a lot of people are going to buy it.
 
2007-03-15 12:47:31 AM
Damn, if only the ACLU had gotten him his Miranda rights sooner then this information would have never been available to help George Bush.......
 
2007-03-15 12:47:56 AM
Dear Jerk: That was strange. I always mix up Sheikh Mohammed with Mohammed Ali.

www.science.uva.nl

Approves.
 
2007-03-15 12:48:01 AM
Whatthefark: Not that I'm defending the guy, but our government has been known to lie on occasion. This smells more like a "Hey, let's get the attention off the recent problems with the federal attorney's".

You claim you are 'not defending the guy', yet readily engage in sleazy equivocation and misdirection on his behalf?
 
2007-03-15 12:48:39 AM
Never enough masterminds for 9/11.

/wake me up when it's over
 
2007-03-15 12:49:35 AM
MrToast: Next time, try misspelling a word. Apparently, that's all it takes to get greenlit on FARK.

Its a disturbing trend, I agree :)
 
2007-03-15 12:50:40 AM
I love it, the same people with 20/20 hindsight on Iraq and WMD are refusing to accept the plausibility that KSM was responsible for 9/11.

On the one hand, our government was "completely wrong" with regards to Iraq, b-b-b-b-b-but on the other, OBL is incontrovertibly responsible for 9/11.

You people can't even keep up with your own BS.
 
2007-03-15 12:51:59 AM
after this long, i'm not even sure i believe him.

if i were in his shoes, i'd confess to nailing jesus to the cross if would put me out of my misery. f the afterlife.
 
2007-03-15 12:52:17 AM
Damn, if only the ACLU had gotten him his Miranda rights sooner then this information would have never been available to help George Bush

Translation:

Damn, if only the ACLU had gotten him his Miranda rights sooner then this information would have never been available to help the United States

Please proceed to the nearest exit.
 
2007-03-15 12:52:25 AM
Oh god no i hope they didnt torture him.....

I mean our sanctioned torture techniques include putting underwear on peoples heads.....

I could never stand it if my country hurt our enemies, I would rather sacrifice my entire culture and my freedom in a bizarre self destructive altruistic impulse....

Luckily for us evil conservatives, the liberals will be the first ones executed by our new Islamic Overlords.
 
2007-03-15 12:52:46 AM
If there was any doubts of the legitimacy of the Iraq Invasion, I think we can finally put them to rest now.

/suck it libs
 
2007-03-15 12:52:48 AM
linkolnkatz: part of me wonders if he is taking one for the team

He probably is. Qaedans are true-believing insurgents, fighting by any means necessary from martyrdom to lying. Just because they've been captured doesn't mean they've stopped fighting.
 
2007-03-15 12:53:42 AM
Detroit_Bob:
You claim you are 'not defending the guy', yet readily engage in sleazy equivocation and misdirection on his behalf?

I don't think those words mean what you think they do.

Fact: The administration has lied occasionally to the public.
Fact: This could cause some people to be skeptic concerning unverifably information that the administration presents.

I mean a confession is all good and everything I suppose, but evidence you know... that would be awesome. If he's talking about admitting to it then he ought to be able to give collaberating evidence that shows how he did it.

Right?

P.S. I think you're insane. Or very stupid. I can't decide.
 
2007-03-15 12:54:26 AM
I like pie
 
2007-03-15 12:54:40 AM
*were*
 
2007-03-15 12:56:04 AM
I like how everyone else seems to be thinking the same thing. You know, about the torture thing. It makes me feel confident about this country's future.

So, when the second great American civil war breaks out...whose side will you be on?
 
2007-03-15 12:56:18 AM
If I had had electrodes shoved up my ass for the last 4 years, I'd confess to 9/11, the Great Chicago Fire, the Boston Tea Party, and Pompeii.
 
2007-03-15 12:56:25 AM
cthu1hu:

the Iraq invasion was a mistake..

/not a lib
// likes Reagan and Bush sr.
 
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